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Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:44 PM Mar 2012

George Zimmerman's father is a retired Judge

I was not aware of this. Has anyone else wondered if this might play into his not getting arrested?

"The portrayal of George Zimmerman in the media, as well as the series of events that led to the tragic shooting, are false and extremely misleading," his father, a retired magistrate judge, wrote in a letter published in the Orlando Sentinel. "Unfortunately, some individuals and organizations have used this tragedy to further their own causes and agendas."

"George is a Spanish-speaking minority with many black family members and friends," Robert Zimmerman wrote. "He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever."


From the reports that I have read -- he lived with his parents in Sanford. He has also withdrawn from attending Seminole state college.

Editing to add: His father being a judge in the same town might indicate that he knew police enforcement officials in the city.
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George Zimmerman's father is a retired Judge (Original Post) Raine1967 Mar 2012 OP
Hmmm. This gets stranger and stranger hifiguy Mar 2012 #1
and his mother was a court interpreter CatWoman Mar 2012 #4
And we all know how much clout 'court interpreters' have, right? elleng Mar 2012 #55
In a small town Eddie Haskell Mar 2012 #61
no, i think what happened was the cops just took Zimmerman at his word JI7 Mar 2012 #2
Maybe not, but they later added a bloody nose to the police reports for a reason. Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #9
In this county if the police knew his father was a judge or ex-judge, Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #14
Yep mackattack Mar 2012 #23
Which is all the more reason why this investigation needs to go Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #36
That behavior is common to a lot of counties. TheOther95Percent Mar 2012 #64
If it's that common, why can't we put an end to it? Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #65
If it wasn't a coverup, why did they only test Trayvon for drugs and alcohol pnwmom Mar 2012 #41
it has become a coverup as people started asking questions JI7 Mar 2012 #45
Social connections matter. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #52
good catch, Raine CatWoman Mar 2012 #3
Hold on to your cards, folks, WolverineDG Mar 2012 #5
His father was also retired from the military FarCenter Mar 2012 #6
Who the fuck cares if the family was very catholic and he had a strict upbringing??? Avalux Mar 2012 #19
George Zimmerman was the "victim of a minor criminal assault?" I am skeptical. yardwork Mar 2012 #24
Sounds like he may have some serious paranoia/mental illness issues lolly Mar 2012 #32
Or maybe he was teetering on the brink of paranoia, and his strict family pushed him over. pnwmom Mar 2012 #43
Yeah lolly Mar 2012 #56
Or like many parents daddy cannot see beyond the surface of his childs problems with the jwirr Mar 2012 #49
usually defects claim to be uber religious and supportive of the military fascisthunter Mar 2012 #29
That's georgie's problem, he was an altar boy Dont call me Shirley Mar 2012 #35
ok, so he doesn't discriminate. Does Dad think killing for sport is a better defense? DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #7
There you go. sendero Mar 2012 #8
OP - He was actually here on the Virginia Supreme Court, and believe he retired here in VA HipChick Mar 2012 #10
I will look into that. Raine1967 Mar 2012 #69
What was reported here in the DC area was that his father was a magistrate in Virginia onenote Mar 2012 #11
Oh? Rex Mar 2012 #12
That's what I was looking for! Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #13
I thought he was white?!? Egalitariat Mar 2012 #15
Hi mother is spanish - his father is white CatWoman Mar 2012 #16
George Zimmerman's mother is Peruvian, not Spanish. I read. yardwork Mar 2012 #22
my bad CatWoman Mar 2012 #25
No problem. I don't really have any proof, anyway. Just something I read. yardwork Mar 2012 #27
I read the same CatWoman Mar 2012 #30
Hispanic is an ethnicity, not a race. nt MADem Mar 2012 #47
He was kicked out of school, he didn't withdraw HipChick Mar 2012 #17
The guy that burned down my condo and he Ichingcarpenter Mar 2012 #18
Exactly. I hear you. Raine1967 Mar 2012 #68
info from WDBO website on the father: steve2470 Mar 2012 #20
The guy is 28 -- so if he wants to be a cop so bad, how come he's not one already? Methinks he Nay Mar 2012 #34
Thank you. I've been wondering about this. I read that he was a lawyer. Didn't know he became judge. yardwork Mar 2012 #21
The college threw him out, he did NOT withdraw....n/t monmouth Mar 2012 #26
13 years of college down the drain. yardwork Mar 2012 #28
LOL CatWoman Mar 2012 #31
Bluto later became a Senator, remember. Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #40
!!! CatWoman Mar 2012 #42
There's that other shoe. Been waiting for that to drop. n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #33
LOL, Seminole State made that decision for him obxhead Mar 2012 #37
I can just imagine what kind of judge daddy was to Solomon Mar 2012 #38
If he was a magistrate, he'd be doing a lot of traffic court and things like that, yes? MADem Mar 2012 #46
info on Virginia's magistrates: steve2470 Mar 2012 #48
whooee boy. Him belly full I tell you. Solomon Mar 2012 #51
Thanks for the info! n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #58
I know they do traffic court in MA--I beat the rap in front of one! nt MADem Mar 2012 #60
I knew they where covering his ass for a reason like that. Second of all I know MANY latino's who Justice wanted Mar 2012 #39
I did not know that, but now that I do, I can't help but wonder if that played a role. nt MADem Mar 2012 #44
Perhaps in the same circuit? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #50
'Retired magistrate judge' means LITTLE, in the circumstances, imo, elleng Mar 2012 #53
It means a lot. Eddie Haskell Mar 2012 #62
Haven't seen anything that says he was a judge 'in the same town,' elleng Mar 2012 #54
Well that speaks volumes nt marlakay Mar 2012 #57
Wow. Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #59
He may not have a concealed weapon permit yardwork Mar 2012 #70
I just don't get it! Herlong Mar 2012 #63
yeah, that father's statement is as laughable as it is clichéd Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #66
That explains everything. MelungeonWoman Mar 2012 #67
As Well as his father being a retired magistrate judge.. abynorml Mar 2012 #71
Zimmerman BIG WHITE Daddy? celfon Mar 2012 #72
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
1. Hmmm. This gets stranger and stranger
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:47 PM
Mar 2012

with every passing day. To say the least, this is an eyebrow-raiser.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
2. no, i think what happened was the cops just took Zimmerman at his word
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:48 PM
Mar 2012

because Trayvon was Black so they ddin't really care and/or assumed he was guilty.

i'm not sure it was an active cover up from the start. but now they were exposed for not doing the job they should have they kept trying to cover it up to save their own asses .

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
9. Maybe not, but they later added a bloody nose to the police reports for a reason.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:02 PM
Mar 2012

They needed to help out Zimmerman's defense case. Where is this help for Trayvon? Like talking to the girlfriend since she was on the phone at the same time.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
14. In this county if the police knew his father was a judge or ex-judge,
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:11 PM
Mar 2012

they would have backed off because political connections are everything.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
64. That behavior is common to a lot of counties.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 10:22 PM
Mar 2012

Political or law enforcement connections and/or money do help. Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

There's a bit of kerfuffle over this in the county next to mine.

http://www.longislandpress.com/2012/03/01/3-ex-nassau-police-officials-face-corruption-charges/

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
41. If it wasn't a coverup, why did they only test Trayvon for drugs and alcohol
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:10 PM
Mar 2012

and not the thug who admitted to killing him?

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
6. His father was also retired from the military
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:57 PM
Mar 2012
In Manassas, Va., where Zimmerman lived in the 1980s and 1990s with his parents and two siblings, neighbors tended to define the family based on their spiritual profile. "Very Catholic ... very religious," their neighbor Jim Rudzenski recalled Thursday. The children attended All Saints Catholic School through the eighth grade before going to Osbourn High School. George became an altar server and evening receptionist at All Saints Catholic Church.

Strict upbringing

The father, Robert Zimmerman, is a retired military man. He could be strict. And the children's grandmother, who lived with the family, also kept a watchful eye, said Kay Hall, who lived across the street from the Zimmermans for about 20 years. George and his siblings "didn't play with the neighborhood kids," Rudzenski said. "They had to stay home and play." It was always "Yes, ma'am," "No, ma'am," Hall said.

Zimmerman's life was not without difficulties. In 2001, when he was 17 or 18, he was the victim of a minor criminal assault, said Manassas police Sgt. Eddie Rivera. The city's computer records do not provide details.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/text/2017819414.html

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
19. Who the fuck cares if the family was very catholic and he had a strict upbringing???
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:16 PM
Mar 2012

And he was a receptionist at a church?? I guess because of all that, shooting Trayvon was completely justified.

yardwork

(61,598 posts)
24. George Zimmerman was the "victim of a minor criminal assault?" I am skeptical.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:22 PM
Mar 2012

George Zimmerman has a history of attacking people and then claiming that he was the victim. He claimed this his former girlfriend came after him with a baseball bat, when she was the one who was beat up and George assaulted a police officer attempting to arrest him.

Now he's shot and killed a young person and - surprise! - Zimmerman claims again that he is the victim.

Looks like he's used to daddy getting him out of trouble.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
32. Sounds like he may have some serious paranoia/mental illness issues
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:51 PM
Mar 2012

Maybe his strict, religious family wasn't able to face the problem and deal with it, and instead kept denying the problem and covering up for George instead of getting him help.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
56. Yeah
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 08:40 PM
Mar 2012

Even your garden-variety racist doesn't sit around the condo all day waiting for people to feel threatened by.

Judging from the (sketchy) info we have on his multiple calls and his bizarre obsessions, that's starting to look like what might be going on here.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
49. Or like many parents daddy cannot see beyond the surface of his childs problems with the
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:46 PM
Mar 2012

obsession over being a policeman. As to one minority being prejudice against another - that is a fools dream. Prejudice exists in every race and religion. Prejudice is nothing more than the idea that one group is better than another.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
29. usually defects claim to be uber religious and supportive of the military
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:40 PM
Mar 2012

without question... what they are is a bunch of cowards hiding behind something sacred when we know both have been corrupted and co-opted. Most people see through them all.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
10. OP - He was actually here on the Virginia Supreme Court, and believe he retired here in VA
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:06 PM
Mar 2012

and then moved to FL...not sure he or his wife served in Sandford

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
69. I will look into that.
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 02:31 AM
Mar 2012

The article says he was a magistrate judge. Was his father a judge in 2 states at different times?

onenote

(42,700 posts)
11. What was reported here in the DC area was that his father was a magistrate in Virginia
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:07 PM
Mar 2012

and retired to Florida. Not clear that his father was "a judge in the same town". None of this, of course, has been verified from what I can tell.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
13. That's what I was looking for!
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:10 PM
Mar 2012

The political connection! Where was he a judge?

Judges in this county have been land owners and have pushed the envelope on the law on matters that involved comprehensive plan amendments. They bank on their reputations. Nobody questions them. Once someone is a judge you wouldn't believe the kind of benefits it affords them and their children.

Link, link please!

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
18. The guy that burned down my condo and he
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:15 PM
Mar 2012

was the son of the police chief.

He destroyed 6 condos and got 5 years probation
was caught with a firearm and had a record.

I know small town crap.

thankfully this is national news.

If I hadn't awaken and alerted my neighbors at 3 in morning they would have all died.

I posted this story years ago when it happened on DU
with photos.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
20. info from WDBO website on the father:
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:17 PM
Mar 2012

Zimmerman said his father was a magistrate for Virginia Supreme Court and mother was a deputy court clerk. He stated that he had the utmost respect for law enforcement and aspired to be an officer someday.

http://www.wdbo.com/news/news/rallies-continue-support-17-year-old-trayvon-marti/nLXJ7/

Nay

(12,051 posts)
34. The guy is 28 -- so if he wants to be a cop so bad, how come he's not one already? Methinks he
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:06 PM
Mar 2012

couldn't pass the psych, or maybe the physical. Instead, he becomes a cop wannabe, one of the most dangerous types of guys around.

Does anyone know what Zimmerman does for a living? He's 28--he's gotta have a job somewhere.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
46. If he was a magistrate, he'd be doing a lot of traffic court and things like that, yes?
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:33 PM
Mar 2012

Which would put him in contact with a lot of rank-n-file police officers.

I can imagine that a cop who had to go before him would be cutting his kid some slack; and maybe he and the police might well be developing "associations" over the years.

Hard to know without details, I am speculating, mind you, but I am thinking that this coziness isn't good.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
48. info on Virginia's magistrates:
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:37 PM
Mar 2012
http://www.courts.state.va.us/courtadmin/aoc/djs/programs/mag/about.html

In many instances, a citizen's first contact with Virginia’s Judicial System comes through the office of the Magistrate. A principal function of the magistrate is to provide an independent, unbiased review of complaints of criminal conduct brought to the office by law enforcement or the general public. Magistrate duties include issuing various types of processes such as arrest warrants, summonses, bonds, search warrants, subpoenas, and certain civil warrants. Magistrates also conduct bail hearings in instances in which an individual is arrested on a warrant charging him or her with a criminal offense. Magistrates provide services on an around-the-clock basis, conducting hearings in person or through the use of videoconferencing systems.

The magistrate system for the Commonwealth is divided into eight regions, and each magistrate is authorized to exercise his or her powers throughout the magisterial region for which he or she is appointed. Each region is comprised of between three and five judicial districts. There are magistrate offices located throughout Virginia, including at least one in each of Virginia’s 32 judicial districts.

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
39. I knew they where covering his ass for a reason like that. Second of all I know MANY latino's who
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:39 PM
Mar 2012

who ARE very Prejudice against Blacks and I work with a Latina WHo was Cuban and looked down her nose at Mexican saying "THEY are not TRUE Latinos". This woman was also a Republican and kiss the butt of my former employers.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
53. 'Retired magistrate judge' means LITTLE, in the circumstances, imo,
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:56 PM
Mar 2012

and should NOT be blown out of proportion.

I seriously doubt that the father has much clout, in this respect.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=81337

elleng

(130,865 posts)
54. Haven't seen anything that says he was a judge 'in the same town,'
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 08:35 PM
Mar 2012

and I doubt it.
Florida is strict, doesn't allow attorneys admitted elsewhere to practice in Florida, Zimmermans lived in Virginia earlier, father apparently retired MILITARY.
My father, admitted in New York, was unable even to work as a 'paralegal' in Florida. Florida protects its own.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
59. Wow.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:04 PM
Mar 2012

And after hearing today about the domestic violence issues he has had in the past, he should never have been given a concealed weapons permit.

No wonder the police didn't arrest him.

yardwork

(61,598 posts)
70. He may not have a concealed weapon permit
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 11:38 AM
Mar 2012

Is there any evidence that he has a permit? He said he did, but Zimmerman lies. It's a felony to carry a concealed weapon without a permit. I'm sure the police looked into this /sarcasm.

 

Herlong

(649 posts)
63. I just don't get it!
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 10:19 PM
Mar 2012

His father, retired judge. His mother, interpreter right. Him, vigilante. So what. Why die for a bag of skittles? Help me out here!

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
66. yeah, that father's statement is as laughable as it is clichéd
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:24 PM
Mar 2012

I'd respond that you don't have to even be a racist to racially profile someone, but I'm sure he'd already know that

abynorml

(2 posts)
71. As Well as his father being a retired magistrate judge..
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 05:08 PM
Mar 2012

....I believe his mother works in the court system, too. How come nobody in the media is mentioning these facts?

celfon

(1 post)
72. Zimmerman BIG WHITE Daddy?
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 05:45 AM
Mar 2012

[link:

&list=UU5rubw5AL_FvhY5Jcrz3caQ&index=1&feature=plcp|
&list=UU5rubw5AL_FvhY5Jcrz3caQ&index=1&feature=plcp

May be it is not his father that's the BIG WHITE DADDY that got his butt special treatment is it this one.
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