BTK in Kansas was a fanatical 911 type. As "compliance officer" he harrassed many

[demtenjeep]

from driving too fast to blades of grass being too tall




http://motherjones.com/politics/2012/03/trayvon-shooters-911-calls-potholes-piles-trash-black-men

[ScreamingMeemie]

1. That keeps running through my head. I think on all of the burglaries that were reported

by Zimmerman to have happened in that neighborhood and I wonder if Zimmerman didn't have a hand in them. I know that gets a little woo woo, but, after hearing what some of his neighbors have said about him (with the exception of the racist guy on all of the news channels), I would not be surprised.

[The Magistrate]

11. An Angle That Certainly Deserves Examination, Ma'am

It is not un-heard of, for example, for a member of a volunteer fire department to be discovered having engaged in arson: people do sometimes create conditions in which they can then posture as heroes.

Indeed, the claims of burglaries and break-ins, all committed by 'black males', deserve a greater degree of scrutiny than anyone in the media seems to be turning on them. It is by now routinely stated as background in accounts of this story that there were eight burglaries in fifteen months, perpetrated by 'black males'. One wonders if anyone has seen records of arrests and convictions for any of these, records of the cases being cleared to a known perpetrator, or any proof whatever these claims, that eight burglaries have been committed by 'black males' in the development over the last year and a quarter, are factual in the first place.

[demtenjeep]

2. he was also racist and harrassed his employee

He then became a dog-catcher[2] and supervisor in the Compliance Department at Park City.[1] In this position, neighbors recalled him as sometimes overzealous and extremely strict; one neighbor complained that he euthanized her dog for no reason.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rader

[bart95]

3. he worked for a security alarm firm while he was active

so people calling the security company to keep BTK out of their home, had (guess who) come INTO their home to install it

what a nightmare

[bart95]

4. odd how he didnt see B, T and K as against regulations

Rader really set the bar for how low a man can go

i wont mention the details, you can look it up if you want to

a disgrace for all MANkind

[liberalhistorian]

5. And he got away with being BTK for so many decades

because no one ever considered a white, middle-class, churchgoing, "respectable" man to be in any way a possible suspect. And people still get away with shit because of that perception.

This is one of the main problems with any kind of racial profiling. You often focus on the wrong people while letting those who are guilty get away with it.

[demtenjeep]

7. he created a lot of fear

while he played rent a cop church leader

[bart95]

8. serial killers tend to be profiled as white males

if they're profiled by race at all. people say all the time that 'all serial killers are white males' (even though that's actually not true), and any documenteries show that police profile as white more than anything else, so how can what you say be true? you cant have it both ways

your arguement is a non-starter

he was obcessive, and he had a degree in criminal justice, he had military and security experience

so this guy was way, way beyond the average criminal, in terms of knowing what the police would be doing to catch him (although he was pretty stupid at the end, giving in for his need for attention). the police totally lost many of their elements of advantage, and there's NO evidence whatsoever that the wichita police or FBI profilers were biased by race, or were overly focussed on a non-white suspect - none!

and if you're going to dredge up wichita mass murderers, dont omit the carr brothers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wichita_Massacre

from the above link

"The attacks, along with the reemergence of serial killer Dennis Rader and the murder of the Clutter Family in the 1950s, rank as the worst crimes in the history of Kansas."

[zbdent]

9. there is a difference between saying 'all serial killers are white males' and

'nearly all serial killers are white males' ...

[bart95]

10. my debate was with this quote from the post i was questioning

"because no one ever considered a white, middle-class, churchgoing, "respectable" man to be in any way a possible suspect. And people still get away with shit because of that perception

This is one of the main problems with any kind of racial profiling."

and i was challanging them to present any evidence at all that the police were biased against looking for a white suspect


seeing 'white racism' when it doesnt exist is no different than seeing 'black criminality' when it doesnt exist (as seems to be the case in the recent florida incident)

2 wrongs dont make a right

[Mopar151]

6. First verse of this Lynrd Skynrd song is freakin me out a little just now.....

Two feet they come a creepin'
Like a black cat do
And two bodies are layin' naked
Creeper think he got nothin' to lose
So he creeps into this house, yeah
And unlocks the door
And as a man's reaching for his trousers
Shoots him full of thirty-eight holes



chorus: Mista' Saturday night special
Got a barrel that's blue and cold
Ain't good for nothin'
But put a man six feet in a hole
[ From : http://www.elyrics.net/read/l/lynyrd-skynyrd-lyrics/saturday-night-special-lyrics.html ]

And if you like to drink your whiskey
You might even shoot yo-self. Lost a damm good friend that way......

From Knebworth festival, back in the day

[demtenjeep]

12. yea

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