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Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:47 PM

The hate map of the USA

The hate map of the USA: From the KKK to black separatists, where America's 939 hate groups are based

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2572449/The-United-States-Hatred-From-KKK-black-separatists-939-hate-groups-America-mapped.html

Number of hate groups jumped dramatically since President Obama took office but this year marks a slight drop from 1,007 in 2012 to 939 in 2013
California has the most with 77 groups followed by Florida with 58 and Texas with 57
Hawaii is the only state without a single known hate group

By Meghan Keneally

PUBLISHED: 16:16 EST, 3 March 2014 | UPDATED: 16:48 EST, 3 March 2014

A revealing new map has made it clear where hundreds of hate groups are based in the United States, showing how racist and radical groups are still largely found in the South but the number of groups has multiplied dramatically since President Obama too office.

The Southern Poverty Law Center has released a 'hate map' last week which shows the national distribution of the various groups that they could confirm.

The overall number of groups actually dropped from 1,007 in 2012 to 939 in 2013- the last full year with available data- but one of their more troubling observations is that some of the far-right leaning groups have had their ideologies picked up by conservative Republican politicians.



‘The idea that the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security, among others, is being plugged by U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.). Last November, U.S. Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) suggested the president was using the Affordable Care Act as cover to set up a “secret security force,”’ the report states.

‘Earlier in 2013, U.S. Rep. Steve Stockman (R-Texas), echoing many Patriot groups, falsely claimed that a proposed United Nations arms treaty “set the stage for confiscation on a global scale.”’

The SPLC, which focuses much of its work combating racist groups, said that the lack of clear legislative victories for the Obama administration on gun control in the wake of Sandy Hook and the upcoming immigration reform battle appear to have effectively calmed some of the far-right groups.

‘Those factors, along with the collapse or near-collapse of several major groups for a variety of reasons, seem to have taken some of the wind out of the sails of the radical right, leaving the movement both weaker and somewhat smaller,’ the report states.

Many states have varying bands of hate groups, but for their map, the SPLC qualified them into eight categories: black separatist, neo-confederate, Christian identity, racist skinhead, white nationalist, neo-Nazi, Ku Klux Klan and general hate.

There is only one state- Hawaii- that has no known hate groups but a vast majority of the rest can be found below the Mason Dixon line.

The 11 states that make up the area between Texas and the Atlantic are home to 589 of the 939 active groups that the SPLC identified- a whopping nearly 63 per cent.

Though Florida hosts 58 groups and Texas has 57, they do not take the top slot this year.

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marble falls Mar 2014 OP
Adrahil Mar 2014 #1
Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #2
yeoman6987 Mar 2014 #27
Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #42
NuclearDem Mar 2014 #32
Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #41
Shrike47 Mar 2014 #3
dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #4
TreasonousBastard Mar 2014 #5
Aerows Mar 2014 #6
fujiyama Mar 2014 #7
progressoid Mar 2014 #9
Aerows Mar 2014 #12
Arger68 Mar 2014 #11
Aerows Mar 2014 #13
Arger68 Mar 2014 #15
Aerows Mar 2014 #16
nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #20
Aerows Mar 2014 #21
nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #23
That Guy 888 Mar 2014 #22
Aerows Mar 2014 #24
blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #8
LeftyMom Mar 2014 #10
Aerows Mar 2014 #14
marble falls Mar 2014 #17
XemaSab Mar 2014 #18
marble falls Mar 2014 #28
Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #19
davidpdx Mar 2014 #25
jberryhill Mar 2014 #26
rgbecker Mar 2014 #29
Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #30
Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #33
Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #35
Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #48
panader0 Mar 2014 #31
Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #34
Laxman Mar 2014 #36
clarice Mar 2014 #37
cali Mar 2014 #38
clarice Mar 2014 #39
JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #40
nolkyz Mar 2014 #43
stillwaiting Mar 2014 #44
LeftyMom Mar 2014 #45
stillwaiting Mar 2014 #46
LeftyMom Mar 2014 #47

Response to marble falls (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:51 PM

1. Hmmm shows one in my town....

but I've never heard of them, so they are thankfully small.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:56 PM

2. My state (FL) is filled with hate groups.

How lucky is that?

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 06:02 AM

27. Not to worry

My big time blue state of Maryland seems to have quite a few too. I guess hate is equal opportunity with regards to states.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #27)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 10:09 AM

42. You too? It seems like the whole country is just filled with hate groups.

Me, I'm hating. I'm hating the ones that create the propaganda, and those that join hate groups, because although there might be 1 or 2 exceptions, hate groups nearly always appear to attack the underdog, the helpless, the poor, the ill, the old, the disadvantaged and poor.

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:29 AM

32. Don't worry, my home state of Indiana has more than enough Klan, Nazi, and CI groups as well.

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #32)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 10:07 AM

41. :( I see you're fortunate too. Isn't this how the Nazis in Germany started? With hate groups?

With propaganda to fuel the hate groups?

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:59 PM

3. The listed group in my town is labeled White Supremicist but they are basically Nazis.

Edited after further research.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 09:14 PM

4. Many tpes of hate named, and then..there is

"general Hate".

Maybe we need to bust him down to private.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 09:30 PM

5. I subscibe to SPLC's newsletters and give them money...

which I hope the rest of you do. Morris and his people do good work and deserve our support.

These hate groups are just the tip of the iceberg.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 09:53 PM

6. I'm confused

What is the difference between the KKK, White Nationalists, Racist Skinheads, Neo-Confederates and Neo-Nazis?

What am I missing here? Do some of them just barbecue on crosses in front lawns instead of burning them?

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Response to Aerows (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:22 PM

7. My view on this...

I get the impression that the neo-confederates are typically the more "genteel" racists. They try to gain political power through alliances with the GOP (especially in the South, it seems like it's good republican politics to be friendly to Daughters of the Confederacy and various other groups). But the way the party and its mouthpieces are going, it's growing more tolerant of white-nationalists as well - which seems to be what the teabagger wing is largely made of. Neo-Nazis are tougher for the GOP to coalesce with, because that doesn't exactly help the party in making inroads with conservative Jews.

In most parts of the country, the KKK look like clowns - probably even among many racists. Those pointy hats and robes look silly and hurt them from being taken seriously. But with demographic changes, there are many that are probably sympathetic to some or many of their beliefs. I think most of the old Klan has been absorbed into many of these many Neo Confederate groups. After all, as Lee Atwater said the GOP can't run around yelling "N-er, N-er, N-er".

The Racist Skinheads and Neo-Nazis are definitely the most violent of the bunch so law enforcement is usually on them. The Skinheads main power base seems to be in prisons. There's a great article in (I believe it was Vanity Fair) in the mid '00s on the Aryans and the prison network. It's great reading and I'll try to find the link.

The other groups seek wider political power and seek weakening of civil rights laws and disenfranchisement of minority voters. In many ways they are more destructive on a macro level.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:13 PM

9. Some are in the American League and some are in the National League

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Response to progressoid (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:53 PM

12. LOL!

That's pretty much my take on it. Same game, different teams trying to accomplish the same shitty goal.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:46 PM

11. At gun shows, the Ku Klux Klan are

the ones handing out paraphernalia depicting Obama as Hitler, while the skinheads/white nationalists are simply handing out Hitler paraphernalia. All while voting for the same candidates and holding roughly the same political views...

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Response to Arger68 (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:55 PM

13. What about the neo-confederates and the neo-nazis?

I guess they just show up to be supportive or something? Or are they the ones playing dress up, too?

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Response to Aerows (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:05 AM

15. I would guess that the neo-confederates would be

more closely associated with the Klan and the neo-nazis would identify more closely with skinheads, but that's only a guess. I honestly don't know what the real difference is between all the groups you mentioned either, I just thought it was funny because a few years ago I read about a group of skinhead/neo-nazi types handing out pro-Hitler type stuff and a group of Klan types at he table next to them handing out stuff with a picture of Obama with a Hitler mustache at a gun show (actually I think it was a machine-gun shoot).

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Response to Arger68 (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:11 AM

16. I don't know the difference either

That's why I was asking. I'm just wondering which part of "Oh I hate ____" differentiates between all of them. They are all pretty hateful. Does one eat quiche and another scorn those that do? Does having a vintage hunting rifle make you one or the other, or is just photoshop skills and the ability to make pamphlets mean you are one or the other? Is the ability to pee straight a qualification?

I'm just trying to figure out what the difference between them is, like a biologist. Genus Hatred, species KKK
Genus Hatred, species neo-nazi.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:34 AM

20. To outsiders the differences are academic

to these folks, which is a good thing, at times they refuse to share the same room.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #20)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:41 AM

21. I guess

nutjobs categorize themselves into "I'm not a nutjob about this, and you aren't welcome because you are a nutjob about that!"

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Response to Aerows (Reply #21)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:44 AM

23. Yup, they become a real problem when they decide to put their differences to the side

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Response to Aerows (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:42 AM

22. Mostly time

Last edited Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:36 AM - Edit history (2)

Neo-confederates and neo-nazis both are tied to failed political movements. I live in Texas and you can see plenty of confederate "cya" material at the state capitol, including a plaque which explains that the Civil War had absolutely nothing to do with slavery, and was an ardent defense of state rights. Neo-nazis are usually simultaneously Holocaust deniers and violent anti-Semites.

KKK are somewhat similar to neo-confederates in that their roots are in the post civil war south and originally tried to restore all the racial privileges of whites in the south. They changed over the years, but to me they aren't too different from their roots, the first and most violent neo-confederates.

White nationalists want to eventually have their own racially pure country, like the plot of the Turner Diaries (it used to be online, it's some of the worst writing I've ever read).

Racist Skinheads I think were co-opted out of skinhead/ska fad, umm maybe 1970's -1980's first in the UK then here I think. In the UK I believe it was to diffuse/confuse unemployed people to blame minorities for their economic problems rather than Thatcherism and austerity.

Operationally, they aren't too different. A documentary called "Blood in the Face" was my first media exposure to them. It provides an overview and interviews with a few of these people. One of the directors was involved in "The Atomic Cafe" (a simultaneously satiric and chilling narrator-less documentary that used of mostly pro atomic warfare government films, period films and news), and some of the interviews are conducted by an off camera Michael Moore. It's available on youtube, but has apparently been used by anti-Muslims, and some racists, but I think the documentary stands up to this abuse and would recommend watching it.

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Response to That Guy 888 (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:44 AM

24. Thank you for a comprehensive answer

and I will check out that documentary.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:08 PM

8. I see a pattern.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:20 PM

10. The California map is a little deceptive, IMO:

A lot of California's most fervent racists live in the far northern part of the state, but they tend to be tweakers who aren't organized enough to have a group with a website and a newsletter so I would guess that's why they're not on the map.

Still, if you look at news reports of hate crimes, more often than not the perpetrators are from Upper Tweakistan.

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:57 PM

14. Oh God

Tweakers.

Not a scarier bunch of addict nutjobs around. Racist as hell, but if a black person could get them tweaked out, they would be the first on their knees while hating themselves for it.

Very bad social cocktail.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #14)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:08 AM

17. Here in Texas we have a lot of tweeking racists.

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:20 AM

18. A lot of them are teabaggers and militia types too

where their "patriot" agenda is code for keeping Cottonwood 86% white.

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Response to XemaSab (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:36 AM

28. Funny isn't it? If you have Teabillies, you also have Nazis and tweekers,

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:32 AM

19. Mahalo

 

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:00 AM

25. Interesting how the concentration is mainly the east coast

with the exception of California, Arizona, Texas. I grew up in one of the areas in Oregon that used to be notorious for those types of groups. Got out as soon as I could.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:05 AM

26. North Dakota is for lovers

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:40 AM

29. Whoa! Check out Indiana.

Population: Indiana 6.5 M. California 38 M.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:15 AM

30. Gee, why do CA, FL and TX have the most?

Uh, could it be population?

I wonder how the numbers break on a per capita ratio

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Response to Boom Sound 416 (Reply #30)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:31 AM

33. I remember stuff I read re the Far Right over 50 yrs ago:

Organizations were concentrated in CA, TX, FL.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #33)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:39 AM

35. Was 'stuff I read' the name article?

Things were a little upside or switched 50 years ago too.

But let's just leave it there.

I'm more interested in the per capita numbers and I really like the heading "general hate" in the legend. That's kinda funny.

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Response to Boom Sound 416 (Reply #35)

Wed Mar 5, 2014, 09:04 AM

48. Ha! Long lost book was "The Radical Right," a compendium of

Essays and articles. In it a researcher identified Texas, California, Florida as hotbeds of "new right" extremist organizations. GA and VA ranked high. The book was published in 1963 or 1964.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:24 AM

31. "General hate" here in SE Az.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:34 AM

34. Hmm. Not much HateFL, here. Maybe 'cause CA is in the mix?

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:49 AM

36. If You Go Directly To...

the SPLC web site you can access a zoomable version of the map here: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map with more detailed information. Skinheads, neo-nazis, white supremacists, black separatists, the Klan, anti-LGBT groups...quite the menu of forward thinking human beings. How in the world have humans managed to survive with this kind of hate?

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:53 AM

37. I wonder what "General Hate" is ? nt

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:54 AM

38. The SPLC does a terrible job with this.

it's just shoddy. And this isn't the first year it's been such a sad example of bad research.

I love the work the SPLC does, but this is more about shock value and raising money than a realistic look at hate groups.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:55 AM

39. I'm a bit surprised...

"Hate Groups " are usually depicted as being in the great Northwest.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:55 AM

40. There is another image at that article

And underneath it is this statement:


Growing trend: The number of hate groups jumps during Democratic administrations but particularly during that of President Obama
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2572449/The-United-States-Hatred-From-KKK-black-separatists-939-hate-groups-America-mapped.html#ixzz2v0QeFCmP
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Let's say it again - during the Obama Admin they came slithering out on their slimy bellies and multiplied their numbers.

The number of hate groups jumps during Democratic administrations but particularly during that of President Obama


See folks - the black folks - we aren't making this shit up. I know the map shows things all over the board and from different perspectives - but at the end of the day - we 'know' something in our guts and it is an absolute truth.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 10:20 AM

43. Hard to be Hateful in Hawaii

 

66 degrees in Honolulu right now. (Sadly, I had to look that up, rather than transmitting from location.)

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:12 PM

44. The comments and recs are overwhelmingly right-wing and Tea Party positive

at the link.

Please tell me that UK citizens don't see the Tea Party in a positive light.

I hope it's just been posted on Drudge or something and the goons attacked the thread. Nothing makes sense in the comments and the recs over there.

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Response to stillwaiting (Reply #44)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:10 PM

45. It's the Daily Mail.

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #45)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:17 PM

46. Your condescension is super attractive.

I haven't visited the comments over there before, and it was quite the sight.

You can look down on me for not knowing much about the Daily Mail.

If it makes you feel better about yourself, then it's all good.

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Response to stillwaiting (Reply #46)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:25 PM

47. It's a rather xenophobic tabloid with a long history of praising fascists.

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