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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:22 PM

do I understand this correctly? zimmerman claims he killed the boy in self-defense, so, on HIS WORD

alone, he is not arrested, not investigated, and is allowed to keep his weapon--and leave for who knows where? is this something new, or am I missing something?

damn, why did I not know this handy little fact when I was there????

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Reply do I understand this correctly? zimmerman claims he killed the boy in self-defense, so, on HIS WORD (Original post)
niyad Mar 2012 OP
TheWraith Mar 2012 #1
patrice Mar 2012 #6
TheWraith Mar 2012 #8
LoZoccolo Mar 2012 #24
uponit7771 Mar 2012 #2
USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #3
Booster Mar 2012 #5
Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #4
guitar man Mar 2012 #7
TheWraith Mar 2012 #9
guitar man Mar 2012 #12
DCBob Mar 2012 #17
Ecumenist Mar 2012 #21
kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #13
FrodosPet Mar 2012 #23
JI7 Mar 2012 #10
doc03 Mar 2012 #11
Hugabear Mar 2012 #15
appleannie1 Mar 2012 #14
Lilyeye Mar 2012 #26
Enrique Mar 2012 #16
hack89 Mar 2012 #18
EC Mar 2012 #19
ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #20
niyad Mar 2012 #22
ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #27
Blue_Roses Mar 2012 #25
ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #28

Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:25 PM

1. Not on his word--on the police.

They chose to not do a lot of things which would be otherwise not just standard but required in a situation like this.

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:34 PM

6. Police CYA for perhaps encouraging Z. at least indirectly?

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Response to patrice (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:42 PM

8. I think it's more likely that he has connections with the police department.

Family, or maybe friends. Anyone else who made that many 911 calls would get an "out to the woodshed" conversation with a police representative over abusing the emergency system. They'd have to have some pretty substantial reason to put up with him.

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:59 AM

24. I keep thinking of Drew Peterson.

 

A few years ago I was thinking about that, and whether or not the police were covering things up for him because he was an officer himself. I started wondering why they would even do that, and why police officers seem to cover for each other in general, and then I realized: they probably know all sorts of things about each other that could get them arrested, and are likely held in check by a vast web of potential trouble.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:27 PM

2. YES, I just thought about this as I walked outside...it's like someone can kill me right now and jus

...say they felt threatened or some crap and was acting in self defense and that's it.

They have a good chance of going free

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:28 PM

3. I'm not one to casually slam police officers

But this is seriously a WTF moment. This goes beyond simply lacking competence. This is a complete lack of anything resembling common sense.

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Response to USArmyParatrooper (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:32 PM

5. jSomeone pointed out that if he had killed Trayvon with a car the police would have

impounded the car and given Zimmerman drug/alcohol tests. Such a travesty.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:29 PM

4. the police dropped the ball.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:40 PM

7. Sloppy, lazy and incompetent police work

The Sanford PD screwed up bigtime on this

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Response to guitar man (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:43 PM

9. Incompetence that severe has to be deliberate. nt

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:47 PM

12. Very possible

Very possible it was deliberate because it was "just another dead black kid" to them.

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:27 PM

17. Yep. It sounds like they are trying to send a message.

f'kers.

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:08 PM

21. Amen, Wraith... It is deliberate...P.E.R.I.O.D. nt

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Response to guitar man (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:50 PM

13. Not incompetent. Racist in an almost malicious way.

The Man said the darkie threatened him. So that and that alone makes it gospel truth and ends the matter.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:56 AM

23. But he has the "I have Black Friends" defense

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-killer-had-brushes-prior-153033731.html

"His father Robert Zimmerman has said his son is an Hispanic former altar boy, and has black friends and family members. Robert Zimmerman said George Zimmerman didn't pursue Martin, and that his actions weren't race-based."

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Seems to me I have heard a lot of reports about "ethnic cleansing" and other hispanic-on-black crimes, especially around Los Angeles. Could this be something similar?

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:44 PM

10. i think cops didn't really care because the dead was a black kid

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:44 PM

11. If Zimmerman was a COP he would have been put on administrative leave and

it would have been fully investigated. He is a civilian and he just walks away.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:18 PM

15. Not if it was a Sanford police officer

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:05 PM

14. I worked for a PD for 15 years. This was not incompetence. It was blatent racism.

The white guy is always justified in killing the black guy mentality. It has happened thousands of times. The difference now is
social media. It is Facebook and Twitter etc. Ten years ago there would have been a one paragraph blip on a back page somewhere and that would have been that. Not so today. No matter whether you like Facebook or Twitter or not, you have to admit that word gets out no matter how fast the broom sweeps things under rugs.

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Response to appleannie1 (Reply #14)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:35 AM

26. You're right

What angers me the most is that this guy would have walked away free with no questions asked if the public hadn't spread this story.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:23 PM

16. they actually didn't even let Zimmerman talk

witnesses said the cop that interviewed him kept interrupting him and bombarding him with leading questions.

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:28 PM

18. Racist Southern cops are not anything new. nt

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:44 PM

19. Recipe for murder.

All you have to do is not have any witnesses and look scared (and white).

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Response to niyad (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:04 PM

20. Read the police reports...

Zimmerman was injured and his weapon was taken. These are partial reports from the officers that night: http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Twin%20Lakes%20Shooting%20Initial%20Report.pdf

There is a serious absence of data out there and much of what you see here and elsewhere is conjecture. That said, given the totality of the circumstances, it looks like a crime to me.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:34 AM

22. and yet it is being reported that he still has his gun, that it was not taken from him.

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Response to niyad (Reply #22)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:56 AM

27. Journalism at its finest...

As I said, there has been very few facts released in this case, and the media abhors a vacuum, especially with a story as salacious as this one.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:23 AM

25. That is the most incompetent report

with regard to a homicide that I've ever seen-and as a juvenile officer and case worker-I've seen a few.

There are so many sickening things gone wrong here No questions asked is very disturbing. The officer didn't bother to ask Zimmerman what he was doing with the gun and why he was stalking this kid...and so many more...

Sounds like it started with Zimmerman shoving Martin. Martin probably shoved back, knocking Zimmerman down and that's when Zimmerman shot him.Good grief....what a horrible, horrible tragedy--at the hands of "cop-wanna-be".

It's just heartbreaking...

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Response to Blue_Roses (Reply #25)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:59 AM

28. It is incomplete (so marked) and where are the rest of them?

The city is releasing information in dribbles and drabs, and it is infuriating. Get the facts out, its not like they are going to be buried at this point.

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