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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:52 PM

Police Handcuff NBC Chicago Photojournalist, "Your First Amendment rights can be terminated"

Police Handcuff NBC Chicago Photojournalist
Police release media members after about 10 minutes

Chicago police took two members of the media into custody Saturday, including an NBC Chicago photographer.

Photographer Donte Williams and WGN Reporter Dan Ponce were detained as they attempted to cover the story of a 6-year-old girl who was shot and killed. Crews were standing on a sidewalk outside Mt. Sinai Hospital, where the girl had been taken.

The hospital apparently called police, complaining of trespassers. The news crews, at the request of police officers, said they had already moved from a public sidewalk directly in front of the hospital, to a median halfway across the street.

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Police held Williams and Ponce for about 10 minutes. The officer who handcuffed them is recorded on camera warning members of the media that their First Amendment rights could be terminated.

"Your First Amendment rights can be terminated if you're creating a scene or whatever," the officer said.

When asked how they were creating a scene, the officer said, "Your presence is creating a scene."


Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Chicago-Police-Take-NBC-Chicago-Photojournalist-Into-Custody-Warn-1st-Amendment-Rights-Can-Be-Terminated-143105086.html#ixzz1psCIKquu

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Reply Police Handcuff NBC Chicago Photojournalist, "Your First Amendment rights can be terminated" (Original post)
Liberal_in_LA Mar 2012 OP
tk2kewl Mar 2012 #1
KansDem Mar 2012 #4
arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #14
indepat Mar 2012 #18
tclambert Mar 2012 #28
Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #37
tsuki Mar 2012 #35
nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #2
Salviati Mar 2012 #9
hifiguy Mar 2012 #15
Tesha Mar 2012 #3
Brickbat Mar 2012 #5
gopiscrap Mar 2012 #6
nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #8
gopiscrap Mar 2012 #13
nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #17
backscatter712 Mar 2012 #20
spanone Mar 2012 #7
malthaussen Mar 2012 #47
RC Mar 2012 #10
gratuitous Mar 2012 #11
WilliamPitt Mar 2012 #12
The Wielding Truth Mar 2012 #36
Rex Mar 2012 #43
frylock Mar 2012 #16
quakerboy Mar 2012 #41
frylock Mar 2012 #45
Rex Mar 2012 #19
nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #21
Rex Mar 2012 #22
xchrom Mar 2012 #23
jwirr Mar 2012 #24
JDPriestly Mar 2012 #27
grasswire Mar 2012 #25
FiveGoodMen Mar 2012 #30
appal_jack Mar 2012 #31
JDPriestly Mar 2012 #26
dorksied Mar 2012 #29
quakerboy Mar 2012 #42
bvar22 Mar 2012 #50
tblue37 Mar 2012 #51
Tatiana Mar 2012 #32
dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #44
Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #33
Aerows Mar 2012 #34
sakabatou Mar 2012 #38
solarman350 Mar 2012 #39
Mopar151 Mar 2012 #40
Initech Mar 2012 #46
DLC_GOPLite Mar 2012 #48
Quantess Mar 2012 #49

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:54 PM

1. Brilliant

"Your First Amendment rights can be terminated if you're creating a scene or whatever," the officer said.

When asked how they were creating a scene, the officer said, "Your presence is creating a scene."

Presence=Scene=No Rights

So if you don't exist you have rights but if you do actually exist you don't have rights.

Have I got that straight?


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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:57 PM

4. It's worse than that

Presence = Whatever = No Rights.

I know what a "scene" is...I'd like to know what "whatever" is...

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Response to KansDem (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:09 PM

14. That's a very subjective criterion the

police are applying and I sure as hell don't trust them to apply it judiciously

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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:14 PM

18. By jove, I think you've got it!

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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:59 PM

28. In other words, "The law is what the cops say it is."

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Response to tclambert (Reply #28)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:48 PM

37. And this is why taxpayers lose millions to lawsuits, cops that invent the law.

Cops know nothing of what is actually legal, allowed, or constitutional.

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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:41 PM

35. I think it is worst than that. It sounds like a veiled threat to me. You can be terminated. nt

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:55 PM

2. Ah the new Amerika where rights are conditional

Hooray!!!!!

I hope the pd is sued.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:05 PM

9. Conditional on us not acutally using them.

In order to protect our "rights" and our "freedoms" we've got to give them up so they can be put in this box where they can be kept nice and safe...

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Response to Salviati (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:12 PM

15. Indeed. Just like the constitution of the USSR.

Your rights are guaranteed until you try to exercise them, in which case off to the gulag.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:59 PM

5. "Or whatever."

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:02 PM

6. Typical fucking pigs

low information, steroid pumped, arrogant, Napoleon wanna be's...almost every cop now a days is a worthless Nazi like scum....something needs to be done...part of the problem is the glorification of these authorative butt wipes on shows like COPS and the piss ant attention span of the American public.

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:04 PM

8. FYI most pd's hate cops.

And it hasn't been made in a few.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:07 PM

13. Sorry but what does abbreviation mean?

pd's do you mean police departments?

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:14 PM

17. Yes police departments

Most did not play along, local story exemplifies why.

Local sherrifs decided to play along, and they almost got sued. Star officer got stupid before the cameras. The rest said, no thank you.

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:17 PM

20. Careful, you'll get DU's pearl-clutchers riled up.

They had one of my posts hidden for calling the police "pigs".

They truly don't have enough to do.

But I certainly share your sentiment. I'm sick of these roid-raging authoritarian un-Americans wiping their asses with our civil liberties.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:03 PM

7. an ignorant, uninformed police officer.

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Response to spanone (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:35 AM

47. Ever notice how close "uninformed" is to "uniformed?"

n/t

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:05 PM

10. The Photojournalist should have shown the cops their Corporation papers.

 

Non people persons still have lots of rights.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:06 PM

11. And people will profess shock at this

Golly, where did we ever develop the idea that judge, jury and jailer could be rolled up into one person??? Aren't we supposed to have a system of checks and balances so that one person doesn't wield too much power? Well, unless the person being detained or blown sky high is really, really bad.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:07 PM

12. "...if you're creating a scene or whatever."

"Or whatever."

Exactly.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:41 PM

36. Yes,just like the Constitution."Freedom of the Press or whatever."

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:05 PM

43. Yeeeeppp.

Curious indeed.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:13 PM

16. fuck tha police

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Response to frylock (Reply #16)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:02 PM

41. In facist America

tha police fuck you.

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Response to quakerboy (Reply #41)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:36 PM

45. good one!

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:16 PM

19. Is it a police state yet or we still playing pretend?

nt

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Response to Rex (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:19 PM

21. Play pretend, exercise them rights

Until we tell you no.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:21 PM

22. Rights? We don't need no stinkin rights!!!

Evidently you can be in trouble with the law for just...'whatever', stop asking questions! Questions lead to extended jailtime!

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:32 PM

23. OOOPS! The truth slips out. Nt

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:49 PM

24. This makes me sick and nothing points up the need to reelect President Obama and a progressive

congress more than this. We need to get the SCOTUS back into the hands of people who actually believe in the Constitution so we can get this stuff into courts.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #24)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:59 PM

27. But Chicago is the homeland of Obama's sidekick, Rahm Emmanuel.

Remember?

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:55 PM

25. if it can be capriciously revoked, IT IS NOT A RIGHT

True conservatives ought to be howling about this attack on the Constitution.

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Response to grasswire (Reply #25)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:03 PM

30. Absolutely!

Rights are the things they CAN'T take away.

(But we're awfully busy giving them away)

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Response to grasswire (Reply #25)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:18 PM

31. +1!, k&r, n/t

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:58 PM

26. Wow!!!

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:00 PM

29. When rights can be taken away, they cease to be rights, and become priveledges...

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Response to dorksied (Reply #29)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:04 PM

42. Privilege is all we have left

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And many of us do not even have that. And the scary thing is its worse in many other places.

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Response to quakerboy (Reply #42)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:12 AM

50. "Priveledge" is ONLY for "The Priveledged"...

.... as in the Top 1%.



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
Solidarity99!
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Response to bvar22 (Reply #50)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 12:00 PM

51. I wasn't going to say anything, but when three posts in a row misspelled

"privilege," I felt I had to do something about the relentless spread of that misspelling.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:20 PM

32. Yeah. Welcome to Rahmbo's Chicago.

What an embarrassment.

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Response to Tatiana (Reply #32)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:32 PM

44. Chicago has not changed much since 1968, methinks.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:21 PM

33. I smell a winner of a lawsuit

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:39 PM

34. "Your rights

are what we say they are, unless we think you might sue us. In that case, we'll keep your rights in mind, but it probably won't make us change anything unless we get the piss sued out of us a few times by someone with a better lawyer than you have."

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:10 PM

38. Now that is scary.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:26 PM

39. DOX the cop Who Handcuffed the Journalist

 

Film the arrest and DOX the cop. Just remember, when you sue Chicago, you're taking money away from its operating budget. Better to also sue the arresting officer into oblivion.

DOX:
http://partyvan.info/wiki/Dox

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:54 PM

40. Dumb and needlessly confrontational

Good cops are diplomats, social workers, first responders and investigators - Not instigators and portable supreme courts.

One of our local idiots was really special "He could turn a parking ticket into a riot faster than anyone we've ever seen!" opined one of the 5 police chiefs to fire him. Once shot a hole in the roof of a cruiser.......

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:42 PM

46. Welcome to the post BFEE America.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:42 AM

48. I sure do love the post 9/11 FASCIST America!

 

This was the change that I voted for!


(Sarcasm)

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:03 AM

49. Freedom is disappearing.

Hear that, FReepers? We aren't the freest country in the world anymore.

That, described in the OP is a freedom that is being robbed from the American people, and has been diminishing since 9/11.

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