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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:45 AM

Star Member w8liftinglady (23,014 posts)

Dallas billionaire Harold Simmons: 'Obama is the most dangerous American alive'

What do you think?(Is the sarcasm tag necessary?) Give me some hints so I can reply to this oped.There are so many choices

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2012/03/dallas-billionaire-harold-simm.html#

Dallas billionaire Harold Simmons -- the largest single donor in the 2012 elections -- explains the reasons behind his political largesse in a rare and fascinating interview with The Wall Street Journal.

Among his biggest motivations: a desire to remove President Barack Obama from office.

"Any of these Republicans would make a better president than that socialist, Obama," Simmons told the Journal. "Obama is the most dangerous American alive... because he would eliminate free enterprise in this country."

Simmons, head of Contran Corp., goes on to describe his political ideology with a bit more nuance than that. The 80-year-old -- who's given to several candidates in the GOP presidential race -- supports Republicans who pledge to reduce taxes and regulations on businesses.

And he's given enough money -- more than $18 million to conservative super PACs -- for the Obama campaign to take notice. An Obama spokesman told the Journal that Simmons is a "self-proclaimed corporate raider."

The entire story is a must-read for anyone interested in the 2012 presidential race or fascinated by Dallas' elite. Among the other tidbits: his friendships with T. Boone Pickens and Jerry Jones, his like of Luby's Cafeteria and his admission that he'd "probably be pro-choice."

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Reply Dallas billionaire Harold Simmons: 'Obama is the most dangerous American alive' (Original post)
 w8liftinglady Mar 2012 OP
LineReply at age 80. ....soon it will be "dirt, meet dirt".
 russspeakeasy Mar 2012 #1
LineReply His problem is....it's personal
 RobertEarl Mar 2012 #2
LineReply money has nothing to do with intellect or racism
 spanone Mar 2012 #3
LineReply I'm not sure this one is worth your time, w8liftinglady.
 ceile Mar 2012 #4
LineReply He's afraid President Obama will raise his taxes
 thelordofhell Mar 2012 #5
LineReply He's not quite accurate.
 YellowRubberDuckie Mar 2012 #6
LineReply No - these billionaire scumbags are the most dangerous Americans alive
 Initech Mar 2012 #7
LineReply Harold Simmons is a very short-sighted, small man
 gratuitous Mar 2012 #8
LineReply dangerous, to whom?
 newspeak Mar 2012 #9
LineLineReply oh which reminds me
 newspeak Mar 2012 #10
LineReply It's statements like that
 Puzzledtraveller Mar 2012 #11
LineReply Socialist...Obama. Really.
 nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #12
LineLineReply He is projecting, as always.
 Amonester Mar 2012 #15
LineReply Who should care what crap the 0.0000000000000001% say?
 Amonester Mar 2012 #13
LineReply "If You Want To Know What God Thinks Of Money, Look Who He Gives It To. " (n/t)
 Paladin Mar 2012 #14
LineReply Nothing is destroying free enterprise...
 krispos42 Mar 2012 #16
LineLineReply yep, predatory capitalism
 newspeak Mar 2012 #20
LineReply Romney will be like this at age 80 or sooner IMHO.
 kiranon Mar 2012 #17
LineReply I wonder what he thought of Reagan, Nixon, Eisenhower and Ford
 geardaddy Mar 2012 #18
LineReply How much has this fucker's fortune increased under the three years Obama's been in office?
 bullwinkle428 Mar 2012 #19
LineLineReply $18 Million = peanuts for him...
 Amonester Mar 2012 #21
LineLineNew Reply Look at how much the extremely anti-Obama Koch assholes' net worths skyrocketed:
 HughBeaumont Mar 2012 #30
LineReply only a danger to the reaganuts.
 pansypoo53219 Mar 2012 #22
LineNew Reply A better use of those millions
 Horse with no Name Mar 2012 #23
LineNew Reply breakthru! they admit Obama is an American!!
 scheming daemons Mar 2012 #24
LineNew Reply Kennedy killer.
 Dawson Leery Mar 2012 #25
LineNew Reply Well, yeah. He's a Jedi Knight.
 tanyev Mar 2012 #26
LineNew Reply Sounds similar to the talk coming out of Dallas one other time
 LondonReign2 Mar 2012 #27
LineNew Reply Hey . . . Grandpa Joe? Cold War's OVER.
 HughBeaumont Mar 2012 #28
LineNew Reply So what was Ike if Obama is a socialist?
 JHB Mar 2012 #29
LineNew Reply I would ask him a question
 hamsterjill Mar 2012 #31
LineLineNew Reply Excellent points! Stupid sod can't see
 arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #32

Response to w8liftinglady (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:59 AM

Star Member russspeakeasy (5,737 posts)

1. at age 80. ....soon it will be "dirt, meet dirt".

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Response to w8liftinglady (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:05 PM

RobertEarl (2,928 posts)

2. His problem is....it's personal

Obama has more power than him.

And he has way too much money. Money that he stole from millions of poor working people. He is the embodiment of the 1% that has to be financially castrated.

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:06 PM

Star Member spanone (72,141 posts)

3. money has nothing to do with intellect or racism

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:06 PM

ceile (8,687 posts)

4. I'm not sure this one is worth your time, w8liftinglady.

1. He's so pro-business that any argument for the workers would be pointless.
2. If an 80 y/o is calling Obama a socialist then he's forgotten WWII all together. Most likely senility.

On the other hand, since he is so old you can probably play the post WWII prosperity card...I don't know, just my thoughts...

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Response to w8liftinglady (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:07 PM

thelordofhell (3,810 posts)

5. He's afraid President Obama will raise his taxes

So of course he's the most dangerous man alive.



Oh, and he's black.

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Response to w8liftinglady (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:07 PM

YellowRubberDuckie (19,736 posts)

6. He's not quite accurate.

Capitalism can continue in this country, but if it is unregulated, they only think about the short term and screw as many people as possible as quickly as possible. Then the entire country goes into a depression because these dimwitted "businessmen" horde all the money and think "Look at me and how wonderful I am." The world doesn't need that shit. Why can't we have business, regulated, shooting for long term success and moderate growth? I don't understand why you have to have everything NOW instead of making your business successful for decades, you make more money in the long run. These people are like ticks. And I want to pop them like a pimple.

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:08 PM

Initech (38,958 posts)

7. No - these billionaire scumbags are the most dangerous Americans alive

It will take decades to undo the damage they've done in just since George W's reign of terror.

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Response to w8liftinglady (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:14 PM

gratuitous (49,292 posts)

8. Harold Simmons is a very short-sighted, small man

But because he's temporarily on top, of course he's in favor of reducing or eliminating regulation of the businesses and the economy. He's in the best position to bludgeon his way to even more money, as if he needs another dime to live out the rest of his mean little existence. Sadly, the people most vulnerable to Simmons' bludgeoning have been persuaded that they too can reach his economic heights if only Simmons is allowed to grab even more of the wealth created by the labor of others.

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Response to w8liftinglady (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:30 PM

newspeak (4,847 posts)

9. dangerous, to whom?

although, obama is no FDR; I think the right wing have carried the "socialist" meme way too far. Obama is a corporatist, but any corporatist that at least thinks about any american besides the wealthy, are dangerous.

Same right wing wackos who declared JFK should be tried for treason. Why don't they just admit they are fascists, always have been fascists and if hitler would have prevailed, they'd be raking in even more dough on the backs of everyone else.

When some southern repugs are against a memorial to americans who fought against franco, because they were communist; one wonders where the repug party has their alliance. Even though brave men fought franco for doing a coup against a DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED LEADER, these cretins want to see every american who fought against fascism as communists.

Of course, he'd be one of those who wouldn't have minded a coup against FDR, another democratically elected leader.

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:33 PM

newspeak (4,847 posts)

10. oh which reminds me

"some call one a saint when they feed the poor; but when questioned why the poor have no food, they call you a communist."

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:35 PM

Puzzledtraveller (1,878 posts)

11. It's statements like that

That I am no longer a republican, though my transition has been in progress from some time. There is just so much more stupid on the right than I have ever witnessed on the left.

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:37 PM

nadinbrzezinski (120,438 posts)

12. Socialist...Obama. Really.

These people really have no clue what the term means.

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:48 PM

Star Member Amonester (10,185 posts)

15. He is projecting, as always.

(See my reply #13 below.)

Nothing new there.

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:42 PM

Star Member Amonester (10,185 posts)

13. Who should care what crap the 0.0000000000000001% say?

Last edited Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:44 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2)

They R communist$ for the 1% only and they wage economic war on the 99%, after all. All evidence to this is for everyone to see (subsidie$, privilege$, bailout$, and on...).

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:45 PM

Star Member Paladin (8,712 posts)

14. "If You Want To Know What God Thinks Of Money, Look Who He Gives It To. " (n/t)

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:51 PM

Star Member krispos42 (45,158 posts)

16. Nothing is destroying free enterprise...

..faster than the transnational corporations.


First rule of capitalism: destroy all competition
Second rule of capitalism: crush all potential competition
Third rule of capitalism: buy the government so you can follow Rule 1 and Rule 2

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:23 PM

newspeak (4,847 posts)

20. yep, predatory capitalism

so, those few global corporations who wind up with everything, what's the prize? The free market magic fairy tale.

Way back when, in college, my anthropology professor made a comment and I did not fully understand it at the time. He said that USSR was not truly a communistic country, that the oligarchy used the perceptions of communism to control the people. That, with the power of huge corporations, that communism would be seen in the US first. That it would be communism through corporatization. Today, I think, what he meant was that behemoth corporations with their subsidiaries would grow so strong, that there would no longer be even a chance of competition, that there would be no free market and that there would be a true merging of government and corporations (or the corporation replaces the government). Kind of like the movie "brazil." It wouldn't be like what marx defined for the people. I don't know, I see that as fascism; however, if the corporation is not working with the government; but becomes the government, what is it?

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:17 PM

kiranon (1,409 posts)

17. Romney will be like this at age 80 or sooner IMHO.

Greed corrupts as much as power does. Add the two together and you can easily have fascism as the result. Imagine being 80 and having learned nothing about caring for others or only worried about being asked to share some of one's meager billions with those less fortunate. I imagine somewhere in this man's life the government helped him in some way and, if so, it appears that he would be eternally ungrateful.

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:20 PM

Star Member geardaddy (14,314 posts)

18. I wonder what he thought of Reagan, Nixon, Eisenhower and Ford

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:22 PM

Star Member bullwinkle428 (11,384 posts)

19. How much has this fucker's fortune increased under the three years Obama's been in office?

My guess would be...BY SHITLOADS.

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:24 PM

Star Member Amonester (10,185 posts)

21. $18 Million = peanuts for him...

Last edited Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:25 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

So you probably guessed it right.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:57 PM

Star Member HughBeaumont (20,461 posts)

30. Look at how much the extremely anti-Obama Koch assholes' net worths skyrocketed:



Oh, and as their payrolls decreased.

Stay Classy, Dave and Chuck!

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:32 PM

pansypoo53219 (9,322 posts)

22. only a danger to the reaganuts.

zombie reagan + trickle down are dying.

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:37 PM

Horse with no Name (30,642 posts)

23. A better use of those millions

would have been to take away the tax breaks that Obama has extended to this ungrateful bottom feeding fucker.

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:51 PM

Star Member scheming daemons (21,273 posts)

24. breakthru! they admit Obama is an American!!

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:29 PM

Dawson Leery (8,391 posts)

25. Kennedy killer.

Simmons, Pickens, and company as well as their predecessors the Hunt family never accept democracy when their side loses.

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:29 PM

Star Member tanyev (22,106 posts)

26. Well, yeah. He's a Jedi Knight.

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:45 PM

LondonReign2 (1,629 posts)

27. Sounds similar to the talk coming out of Dallas one other time

...around 1963 to be exact.

Dallas hasn't really changed all that much in the intervening years. (And I work here).

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:53 PM

Star Member HughBeaumont (20,461 posts)

28. Hey . . . Grandpa Joe? Cold War's OVER.

It's been over for, what, two decades and some change?

Economically, Obama's a center-right Chi-Schooler. "Socialist" . . . if ONLY.

Can we get a new meme? Please? This is not only getting ancient, it's getting downright embarrassing.

"Most dangerous man alive" . . . shut the FUCK up. Here's a clue . . . anyone calling ANYbody "the most dangerous man alive" is probably the guy who's part of the REAL "dangerous" crew you should be worrying about instead.

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:57 PM

Star Member JHB (17,811 posts)

29. So what was Ike if Obama is a socialist?

Of course, there were people back then who called him a communist. Who did that? The fringe. Birchers and ranting loons.

In other words, the people who have completely taken over the GOP.

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Thu Mar 22, 2012, 04:58 PM

Star Member hamsterjill (4,306 posts)

31. I would ask him a question

If he's given more than $18 million to conservative super PACs - how much has HE given to feed and clothe the poor? How much has HE given to effect positive change OUTSIDE of the political arena.

If someone has $18 million to give away, and gives it to a super PAC...well that says a whole lot about the person's lack of character as far as I am concerned.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:06 PM

Star Member arthritisR_US (3,509 posts)

32. Excellent points! Stupid sod can't see

his way to giving beyond his own selfish interests! Have I said how much I hate these people?

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