HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Today I met a native Amer...
Introducing Discussionist: A new forum by the creators of DU

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:18 AM

Today I met a native American man from the Qualla Boundary, which I never knew existed.

Did you know they were never conquered and are not a part of the United States?

Most amazing conversation that I can recall ever having. What a beautiful man. Super talented, a teacher, an artist, and a gentleman.

18 replies, 1922 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread

Response to mahina (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:39 AM

1. Can you give us more details?

Where exactly is the Qualla Boundary? What was the synopsis of your discussion?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink



Response to FarPoint (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:54 AM

3. When I searched for the Qualla Boundary, it showed a spot in North Carolina

I can't imagine that land within the US in the Appalacians is not part of the United States.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to liberal N proud (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 07:26 PM

6. Something like 86 square miles that are not part of the United States.

St. Georges, in Newfoundland, is part of France, French money, stamps, all of it.

It was a surprise to me about the Qualla boundary too.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mahina (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:49 AM

11. I think you're thinking of St. Pierre and Miquelon

which are islands off the coast of Newfoundland that are part of France.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 12:54 AM

12. You are exactly right! Thank you!

I haven't been there since 1977 and had the name completely wrong. Thank you. Still have some of the money around here somewhere...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mahina (Reply #12)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 01:04 AM

15. I think it would be kind of cool to visit those islands

I have been interested in them ever since I read about them in a world coin book when I was a kid

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #15)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 01:58 AM

18. It was a fun little village, lots of visitors.

The day we went there, there was a Russian cruise ship at dock. The town was bustling. Much more going on than just fishing, for sure, and that was 30 years ago +. Not to say that fishing isn't important, but there was a lot more than that.

I loved Newfoundland.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to FarPoint (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 07:01 AM

4. Qualla Boundary rests upon land formerly belonging to the original Cherokee Nation in NC.

It's a fragment, one of several in North Carolina up in the foothills in the former homeland of the Cherokee. It's not considered a reservation but is legally considered a "land trust" and is under the supervision of the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

As you head into Qualla Boundary, a plaque erected by the Dept. of the Interior reads:

The Cherokee domain once extended far beyond the distant mountains, but the white man, with broken treaties and fruitless promises, brought trouble to the Indians and caused their banishment to an Oklahoma reservation. A few escaped capture and fled into the Great Smokies, eventually forming the Eastern Band that now lives on the Qualla Reservation in the valley below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualla_Boundary

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Selatius (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 12:55 AM

13. Interesting, thank you. Is it a reservation, as the plaque states?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to FarPoint (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 07:24 PM

5. He gave me a quick 1.5 hour education on traditional pottery, history of the Qualla people,

history of the American Indians in North and South America, taught me about the symbols and meanings in the pottery and design work, about their lives there, what it was like togrow up riding horses or running to get to your friends house, no electricity, no TV, none of it.

A m a z i n g

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mahina (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 01:13 AM

16. Very interesting

Do the Qualla Cherokees still live that kind of lifestyle?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #16)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 01:56 AM

17. Some sure do, he did, don't know about the general population.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to FarPoint (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 07:27 PM

7. Posted after midnight last night and headed to bed,

sorry to have missed your question till now. Just got to a computer again.

OK!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mahina (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 07:35 PM

8. I suppose the bottom of Lake Superior has not been conquered.

 

It doesn't matter, does it? IS there an ROI on containing Appalachia?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Zanzoobar (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:37 AM

9. Guess you'd have to ask the US government.

If you have a time machine handy!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mahina (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:36 AM

10. Maybe they could go back to 1893...

...and pull their Marines out of Honolulu and take Dole, Thurston, and their ilk with them.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ellisonz (Reply #10)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 12:55 AM

14. For real.

Sigh.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread