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niyad

(113,229 posts)
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:43 PM Mar 2012

alaska rep: men should have to approve abortions

(what an appropriate name for this woman-hating bastard)

Alaska Rep: Men Should Have To Approve Abortions


Not one to be left in the cold, Alaska has jumped on the mandatory ultrasound bandwagon too.
But maybe it’s because these laws are becoming so routine conservative lawmakers feel the only way they can get headlines, and therefore campaign contributions, is to make each new proposal more outrageous than the last. That would explain State Rep. Alan Dick’s (R) suggestion that women should have to get permission from whomever impregnated them before terminating a pregnancy. (so a woman would have to get PERMISSION from a rapist, for example?)

Dick would advocate for criminalizing women who had an abortion without such permission. “If I thought that the man’s signature was required in order for a woman to have an abortion, I’d have a little more peace about it.”

As Robin Marty reports, Ohio already tried such a move in 2009. That “paternal consent” bill would have required women obtain permission from the biological father before having an abortion, and, in cases of more than one partner, the woman must provide a full list of men with whom she had sex. Any woman who lied about the identity of a potential father or doctors who aborted without permission from the father would be prosecuted.

How long till we see a movement toward paternal consent in D.C. I wonder?

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/alaska-rep-men-should-have-to-approve-abortions.html#ixzz1poFdGoAe

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alaska rep: men should have to approve abortions (Original Post) niyad Mar 2012 OP
What a dick Hippo_Tron Mar 2012 #1
FUCK ALAN DICK !!! - Wait, What ??? WillyT Mar 2012 #2
This insanity will not end well nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #3
maybe we should just stop having sex with men varelse Mar 2012 #4
lysistrata niyad Mar 2012 #7
Using sex as a weapon? We've been through that here already Zalatix Mar 2012 #10
well, the voting isn't until november--the lysistrata thing can happen right now. niyad Mar 2012 #12
You think that'll work on the guys who agree with Alan Dick? Zalatix Mar 2012 #14
I see it as a practical (and absolutely effective) alternative varelse Mar 2012 #27
Does the victim have to get permission from the RAPIST? rustydog Mar 2012 #5
don't give them any ideas niyad Mar 2012 #6
So that sixteen year olds can resort to rat poison, PDJane Mar 2012 #8
rat poison, coat hangers, knitting needles. niyad Mar 2012 #9
Mine's gone too; a victim of optimism. PDJane Mar 2012 #25
I knew we would have to keep fighting. I just didn't think we would be going backwards. niyad Mar 2012 #26
This guy thinks men won't approve of abortions? Or demand them? Zalatix Mar 2012 #11
Yes, what if they demand them? Sorry men. You just don't get to have this. nolabear Mar 2012 #13
Abortion NeverEnuff Mar 2012 #15
+1 gazillion niyad Mar 2012 #17
right on!!! newspeak Mar 2012 #21
Shannyn Moore tweeted about the response he's getting on his Facebook page: highplainsdem Mar 2012 #16
could you post this as a separate thread so we can rec it??? pretty please? niyad Mar 2012 #18
Just did. Link: highplainsdem Mar 2012 #23
I added my two cents Mz Pip Mar 2012 #22
The Dick is scrubbing the comments Mz Pip Mar 2012 #24
this is dangerously close to the "marry your rapist" mentality. nt seabeyond Mar 2012 #19
That is where some of them are truly coming from treestar Mar 2012 #20
 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
10. Using sex as a weapon? We've been through that here already
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:10 PM
Mar 2012

I believe the consensus was that the power of your vote trumps using your sex as a weapon (thus reinforcing anti-feminist stereotypes).

Now don't get mad at me - all I'm saying is the power of your vote is much more powerful than a Lysistrata fantasy story.

niyad

(113,229 posts)
12. well, the voting isn't until november--the lysistrata thing can happen right now.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:13 PM
Mar 2012

as for the power of the vote, that would mean actually trusting in the process.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
14. You think that'll work on the guys who agree with Alan Dick?
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 12:53 AM
Mar 2012

Hint: lots of those guys don't even "prefer" women.

varelse

(4,062 posts)
27. I see it as a practical (and absolutely effective) alternative
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:54 PM
Mar 2012

There really isn't any reason that sex has to involve men.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
5. Does the victim have to get permission from the RAPIST?
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:48 PM
Mar 2012

Perhaps he should include a provision that the victim marry the rapist.

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
8. So that sixteen year olds can resort to rat poison,
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:53 PM
Mar 2012

As in other parts of the 'civilized' world? There's a reason I call them talibornagains.

niyad

(113,229 posts)
9. rat poison, coat hangers, knitting needles.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:05 PM
Mar 2012

remember the button with the coat hanger, and the words "never again" across it? wish I still had mine.

niyad

(113,229 posts)
26. I knew we would have to keep fighting. I just didn't think we would be going backwards.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:40 AM
Mar 2012

time for northern sun or someone to make those again.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
11. This guy thinks men won't approve of abortions? Or demand them?
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:10 PM
Mar 2012

Has he not heard of the Roman paterfamilias?

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
13. Yes, what if they demand them? Sorry men. You just don't get to have this.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:21 PM
Mar 2012

I know it's tough. But you just can't.

NeverEnuff

(147 posts)
15. Abortion
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:01 AM
Mar 2012

Ithink this issue should be left up to men, just as soon as we start getting pregnant. Otherwise we should STFU.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
21. right on!!!
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:07 AM
Mar 2012

maybe the medical field should be looking at ways to allow men to carry the embryo. Remember the series where the aliens made a home on earth-the woman some how transferred the embryo to the man-joint pregnancy? Hmmm, there must be some way. Until then, it's not their decision to make, it's not their body.

My cousin, married, was pregnant, and her hubby told her either an abortion or I'm leaving. So, see men do attempt to make a decision already.

highplainsdem

(48,959 posts)
16. Shannyn Moore tweeted about the response he's getting on his Facebook page:
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 01:07 AM
Mar 2012
http://twitter.com/shannynmoore/status/182674930700255232

Shannyn Moore
?@shannynmoore

Dear me, wanna see how #Alaskan women have responded to Rep Dick (that's his real name for a reason) http://on.fb.me/GFYshh



That shortened URL goes to this page:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Alan-For-Alaska/153736111401979?sk=wall&filter=1

niyad

(113,229 posts)
18. could you post this as a separate thread so we can rec it??? pretty please?
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:58 AM
Mar 2012

I noticed there was not one single post approving of his idiocy. good for the citizens of alaska.

Mz Pip

(27,434 posts)
22. I added my two cents
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:11 AM
Mar 2012

geez, these GOP reps act like there's a contest going on to come up with new and creastive ways to harass women.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
20. That is where some of them are truly coming from
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:02 AM
Mar 2012

I can have some respect for those who feel there is a human life that has a right to live. But this guy shows a much uglier reason - maintaining male control over women. And there are men who would like to be the ones to decide - have the baby or force the woman to abort - they want it to be up to them and aren't against abortions per se.

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