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Wed Mar 21, 2012, 03:06 PM

USA's new massive, tax-payer sucking, terrorism industrial complex feeding spy complex. MUST READ

Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.


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In the process—and for the first time since Watergate and the other scandals of the Nixon administration—the NSA has turned its surveillance apparatus on the US and its citizens. It has established listening posts throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. It has created a supercomputer of almost unimaginable speed to look for patterns and unscramble codes. Finally, the agency has begun building a place to store all the trillions of words and thoughts and whispers captured in its electronic net. And, of course, it’s all being done in secret. To those on the inside, the old adage that NSA stands for Never Say Anything applies more than ever.

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He explains that the agency could have installed its tapping gear at the nation’s cable landing stations—the more than two dozen sites on the periphery of the US where fiber-optic cables come ashore. If it had taken that route, the NSA would have been able to limit its eavesdropping to just international communications, which at the time was all that was allowed under US law. Instead it chose to put the wiretapping rooms at key junction points throughout the country—large, windowless buildings known as switches—thus gaining access to not just international communications but also to most of the domestic traffic flowing through the US. The network of intercept stations goes far beyond the single room in an AT&T building in San Francisco exposed by a whistle-blower in 2006. “I think there’s 10 to 20 of them,” Binney says. “That’s not just San Francisco; they have them in the middle of the country and also on the East Coast.”

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Binney left the NSA in late 2001, shortly after the agency launched its warrantless-wiretapping program. “They violated the Constitution setting it up,” he says bluntly. “But they didn’t care. They were going to do it anyway, and they were going to crucify anyone who stood in the way. When they started violating the Constitution, I couldn’t stay.” Binney says Stellar Wind was far larger than has been publicly disclosed and included not just eavesdropping on domestic phone calls but the inspection of domestic email. At the outset the program recorded 320 million calls a day, he says, which represented about 73 to 80 percent of the total volume of the agency’s worldwide intercepts. The haul only grew from there. According to Binney—who has maintained close contact with agency employees until a few years ago—the taps in the secret rooms dotting the country are actually powered by highly sophisticated software programs that conduct “deep packet inspection,” examining Internet traffic as it passes through the 10-gigabit-per-second cables at the speed of light.






This Wired article is a must read, IMO. It was next to impossible to pick the 4 most horrifying paragraphs in this LONG article.

The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say):
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1

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Reply USA's new massive, tax-payer sucking, terrorism industrial complex feeding spy complex. MUST READ (Original post)
tpsbmam Mar 2012 OP
hifiguy Mar 2012 #1
50000feet Mar 2012 #2
snagglepuss Mar 2012 #3
pscot Mar 2012 #4
Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #5
Dragonfli Mar 2012 #7
Uncle Joe Mar 2012 #6
Initech Mar 2012 #8
Kaleko Apr 2012 #20
Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #9
Dragonfli Mar 2012 #10
PotatoChip Mar 2012 #11
woo me with science Mar 2012 #12
Dragonfli Mar 2012 #13
woo me with science Mar 2012 #14
woo me with science Mar 2012 #15
woo me with science Mar 2012 #16
woo me with science Mar 2012 #17
idwiyo Mar 2012 #18
scarletwoman Mar 2012 #19
idwiyo Apr 2012 #21
Octafish Apr 2012 #22
G_j Apr 2012 #26
Octafish Apr 2012 #27
G_j Apr 2012 #28
petronius Apr 2012 #29
sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #23
dipsydoodle Apr 2012 #24
G_j Apr 2012 #25

Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 03:14 PM

1. I am derfinitely printing this out for reading tonight.

Fascinating combination of intelligent posters and shrieking paranoid schizos in the comments section.

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 03:18 PM

2. Marking for later + recommended.

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 03:19 PM

3. marking to read later

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 04:03 PM

4. Xmen

Reading this before bed just seems like a bad idea.

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 05:06 PM

5. Are we really OK with the NSA sucking up all our emails, phone calls, tweets...

...without a warrant or even any probable cause whatsoever? Really? Because this gets no outrage.

Whatever happened to the Fourth Amendment?

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 06:44 PM

7. Bush shitcanned that amendment and Obama slammed the lid shut on the can, it exists in name only,

Just like the rule of law that only applies to some (pot smokers, food thieves) while others have immunity to commit war crimes or steal trillions without charges or punishment of any kind.

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 05:13 PM

6. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, tpsbmam.

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 06:58 PM

8. Makes you wonder who the real terrorists are doesn't it?

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Response to Initech (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 1, 2012, 01:22 AM

20. Not anymore. n/t

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 07:16 PM

9. Are we not men? We are Sheeple. Baaaaah.

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 07:49 PM

10. No way Obama knows about this! He would never allow gathering every email & voice message

of every american without a warrant. Only someone that doesn't understand the constitution would allow this.
I am told he is a scholar of the document.

Quick someone tell him, I know he is just a figurehead and can only veto bills that barely pass (and even some of those he is powerless to do anything but sign.) I also know that by law his appointees have all the power and they don't listen to him, but maybe if someone tells him, he will resign to seek an office with some power to help us.

I know he would if he could, he just got stuck in a position of no authority or power.

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 07:55 PM

11. Bookmarked for later reading. Thanks (nt)

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 08:09 PM

12. Indefinite detention, assassinations of American citizens, and now this.

Do we even have a Constitution anymore?

Really, Obama? Really?

Is this REALLY what you want your legacy as President to look like?

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 08:22 PM

13. It is not that he hates the Constitution, he appears to simply see it as a roadblock to what some

donors want. Like an obstacle that must be overcome.

I wish he understood how important it truly was,
how without it fascism that favors authority and big business is all that will be left.

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:16 PM

14. K&R

Good god.

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:49 AM

15. Kick

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:42 AM

16. Where is our goddamn press asking Obama about this?

Oh, right. They work for the same people.

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 02:17 PM

17. Kick

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:05 PM

18. K&R and Thank you. Great article.

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:59 PM

19. k&r. (nt)

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Sun Apr 1, 2012, 01:39 PM

21. Kick n/t

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Sun Apr 1, 2012, 03:42 PM

22. Kick n Recc.

thank you, tpsbmam, for a very important post and subject.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002440614

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Response to Octafish (Reply #22)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 02:39 PM

26. thanks for the link


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Response to G_j (Reply #26)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 05:03 PM

27. You are most welcome, G_j!

Remember this one? You were there.

Frank Church and the Abyss of Warrantless Wiretapping

It's not like history repeats or anything, just the war and slavery parts.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #27)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 12:20 PM

28. yes history repeats itself

usually on steroids!

the only mistakes they avoid repeating are the ones that reveal the truth to the public at large.

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Response to G_j (Reply #28)

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 01:02 PM

29. Kick?

Interesting article, by the way - I missed it the first time around...

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Sun Apr 1, 2012, 03:50 PM

23. This cannot be legal. I thought that even after 9/11 when they began using that tragedy as an

excuse to spy on people, they were stopped from instituting the Total Information Awareness program.

Secret windowless buildings all over the country with spies, spying on the American people?? And I used to think people who suspected these things were paranoid.

The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.


Two billion dollars to spend on watching the population of this country. I thought we had no money?

Seems to me this is a violation of the Constitution. But who is going to challenge it?

Orwell never imagined how bad it could get.

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Mon Apr 2, 2012, 04:59 AM

24. And doubtless it will still miss

a few box cutters being bought at The Depot.

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Response to tpsbmam (Original post)

Tue Apr 3, 2012, 02:18 PM

25. kick!

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