Fox News spins Martin killing on gun control

[SpartanDem]

It's bad enough that they are barely covering this story. But to distract from this kids killing over gun control makes me sick.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1518896024001/911-calls-raise-new-questions-in-death-of-florida-teen

[Baitball Blogger]

1. It's a shame that Trayvon didn't have a gun.

He could have defended himself.

On edit: I'm neutral when it comes to gun control, but as long as the other side is arming themselves, you've got to wonder if it's time.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

3. He DID defend himself.

Unfortunately, he fell victim to a Charles Bronson/Jack Bauer wannabe who thought he was the law.

[Baitball Blogger]

11. What is that term?

Bringing fists to a gun fight.

[frylock]

17. the term you're looking for is "cold blooded murder"

this kid didn't bring jack to shit. he was fucking murdered.

[JI7]

22. the kid wasn't looking or going to any fight,some guy more than 100 pounds

was stalking, hunting him looking to kill some black kid.

[Baitball Blogger]

30. No argument from me.

It's a harsh reality that many of us take self-defense classes because of the fear of getting mugged/attacked. But nobody anticipates that the mugger/attacker will actually be someone who is representing the law, even as a neighborhood watch guy.

Zimmerman is going to spend time in jail. I don't see how he can get off.

[itsrobert]

4. And if he did, he would be facing murder charges

I have no doubt.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

9. Beat me to it.

Though it doesn't necessarily follow that the other guy would have died instead; but assuming that was the outcome of defending himself, yeah, Trayvon would have been in deep, deep shit.

[Baitball Blogger]

13. But he would have been alive.

Unfortunately, however, you are all correct.

This situation is mired in racism. There was no scenario where Trayvon gets to walk out of that without being forever transformed by one wannabe cop's assessment.

[LanternWaste]

15. There is no absolute that Trayvon would be alive..

"But he would have been alive..."

There is no absolute that Trayvon would be alive... unless your contention is that no armed person ever dies of gun violence.

[Baitball Blogger]

24. This is getting depressing to play the "what ifs."

I'm glad the Feds are getting involved because this does not play out well, no matter how you look at it.

[LanternWaste]

38. You in fact, began the "what-ifs"

You in fact, began the "what-ifs"; although I certainly do realize when used counter to your own position it could indeed get depressing....

[Baitball Blogger]

39. Yes, I did begin the what ifs.

Which is why I reached the point when I recognized that Trayvon never had a chance. And why I found that depressing.

[JI7]

23. the cops might have shot Trayvon when they got there

either way as long as that racist piece of shit thug Zimmerman was on the loose some black kid was going to end up dead.

[Baitball Blogger]

25. That's what I was thinking about when I answered the previous post.

Depressing all around. Sanford is looking more and more like the deep south.

[Liberal_in_LA]

12. yep. n/t

[randome]

6. You think minors should be roaming the streets armed?

That's sure to cut back on unnecessary violence!

[Baitball Blogger]

14. That's right. He was only seventeen.

Forgot about that.

How old do you have to be to own a gun?

[randome]

19. Don't know.

I can see some would argue that anyone over 10 should know how to use a gun. I don't agree but I can see that argument.

It would be a poor state of affairs if teenagers were allowed to have guns, no matter what one's philosophy is on gun ownership.

[Baitball Blogger]

26. You were right, though.

Carrying a gun around would have marked him as a gang member by the local authorities.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

16. Black American arming himself = thug

White American arming himself = patriot

That's the problem.

[Baitball Blogger]

28. That is the problem.

Whatever civil rights leader gets involved with this had better make all these points clear to show everyone how black people are at the mercy of the cop's perceptions. They aren't even allowed to carry guns like everyone else without suffering the penalty of other other people's perceptions.

[JI7]

21. if Trayvon shot the guy hunting him Trayvon would have been arrested or killed by the cops

[Baitball Blogger]

31. Like I said in another post,

A civil rights representative needs to make that clear because the rest of American needs to recognize the hopelessness of this situation that Trayvon faced.

[LisaL]

27. He was a minor. Do we allow minors to carry guns now?

[Baitball Blogger]

32. No.

I had forgotten he was only seventeen. Is the legal age 18 or 21 to carry a gun?

[provis99]

33. there is no minimum age in Florida to carry a gun.

you can be 2 years old and carry a gun. There is some meaningless jibberish that a person under 18 can only carry a gun for lawful purposes, but that's a "no shit sherlock" line which also applies to those over 18.

[Baitball Blogger]

34. Then I think we could all agree that there should be severe penalties for misuse of a weapon.

I think this stand your ground rule was meant to protect good ole boy gun toters. And I think they miscalculated badly.

[X_Digger]

35. 21 is the legal age to carry concealed. n/t

[provis99]

36. so?

you can carry a rifle out in the open if you want.

[X_Digger]

37. Not unless you're going to / from certain activities..

Open carry is lawful while engaged in, or going directly to / from, lawful target shooting, hunting, fishing, and camping expeditions.

http://law.onecle.com/florida/crimes/790.25.html

[Tommy_Carcetti]

2. I didn't have the stomach to watch the video.

What was their spin on the situation exactly?

[SpartanDem]

7. That gun advovates are using this to go after the NRA

[Tommy_Carcetti]

20. Oh, of course. In the words of Livia Soprano, "Poor you!" (as it relates to the NRA).

Bastards have had a stranglehold on Tallahassee lobbying for decades, and now they are crying poor oppression.

Sorry, my sympathy in this situation is reserved solely for Trayvon Martin and his family.

[Enrique]

5. good catch

I've read and watched a lot of coverage of this case, and about 0.05% of it has said anything about gun control.

Fox is clearly trying to spin this in a safe direction, and it's preposterous to ignore the racial aspect.

[grasswire]

8. is Limbaugh talking about it? n/t

[leftyohiolib]

10. he's got bigger problems- but you can bet his fat ass he will eventually and it will be sickening

[frylock]

18. this is the best thing that could've happened for rush..

nobody is talking about him anymore, unfortunately.

[aaaaaa5a]

29. FOX news makes me sick. nt