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Thu Jan 30, 2014, 09:56 PM

loser fuckheads accusing obama of using soldier as a "prop"

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/01/29/General-Scales-Accuses-Obama-of-Using-Wounded-Vet-As-A-SOTU-Prop

at breitbartvomit.com

Don't click it because fuck them.

But just so you know.



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Reply loser fuckheads accusing obama of using soldier as a "prop" (Original post)
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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 09:58 PM

1. Nothing brings out the psychopathic scum of the earth more than a heartfelt speech

 

honoring a wounded veteran, it seems.

They are incapable of feeling. Their hatred has made them hollow, if they were ever full.

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Response to TheMathieu (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:19 PM

12. they are truly psychotic nt

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Response to TheMathieu (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:29 PM

17. Wrong, imho. Perceptions and motivations are

different for everyone; that's what makes this all interesting. Where have you seen psychopathic scum?

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:32 PM

19. in this case brietbart, fox

etc.

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:00 AM

99. Harsh words, I know.

 

But it sickens me when mostly everyone can be touched by an event and then a very vocal minority shits all over it with negativity. Of all the things said and done at the State of the Union, I just cannot fathom how that is what made people get vitriolic. I don't understand if they're incapable of feeling or just feel the need to be contrary, but whatever it is has to be abnormal.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 09:58 PM

2. LOL

Still not subtle enough.

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Response to 1000words (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:56 PM

58. So do you agree or disagree? nr

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #58)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:04 AM

116. He's afraid to answer.

He might be shown the DU door.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 09:59 PM

3. Instead of being embarrassed and ashamed

 

it's double/triple down time.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:03 PM

4. To me it was the

up close look at some of the cost we really bear when there is WAR.

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Response to mstinamotorcity2 (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:05 PM

6. rightwing tools don't want to hear that

Fuck brietbart
Fuck Fox News
Fuck anyone who rides with them

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:21 AM

70. so would TruthOut writers be "riding" Faux News or Breitbart?

at least in your opinion?

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #70)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:23 AM

72. do they agree with them? nt

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #72)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:25 AM

73. yes or no and oh who wrote what first BTW?

IOW who would be stating a similar opinion to who?

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #73)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:28 AM

75. these lowlife scumbags saying the president used a wounded vet as a prop

on breitbart, fox and at freerepublic are despicable.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #75)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:31 AM

82. didn't answer the question at all so once again

who wrote what first and what was the reasoning behind the articles? Did Breitbart feel the POTUS did not give enough respect to the vet or what?

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #70)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:27 AM

74. Does Truthout still exist?

Jeebus, the Internet really is the world's toxic dump site.

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #74)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:29 AM

78. yes indeed it does ETA to add link to trouthout

what makes you say it's a toxic waste dump-their stance against food stamp cuts?

http://www.truth-out.org/

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #78)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:38 AM

86. That may have been unfair.

It's been years since I was last there, and my visits were quick and infrequent. The horrific writing and ill-considered, unrealistic, ahistorical context made my teeth hurt.

Has it improved since?

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #86)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:43 AM

91. depends on your opinion(s) of various issues

nothing is 100%

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #91)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:01 AM

100. No it doesn't.

It's about the precision of the writing and the quality of the content. Fact or fiction, agree or disagree, I don't otherwise give one runny shit.

So I checked. It's still crap.

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #100)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:02 AM

101. well that's your opinion isn't it :)

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #101)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:08 AM

103. Indeed.

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #78)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 07:41 AM

133. so because some obscure supposedly liberal site agrees with the freakshow that is fox, brietbart,

and freerepubic that somehow legitimizes the afformentioned psychos sinking into the gutter even farther to accuse the president of using a wounded vet as a prop because he honored him at the SOTU?

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #133)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 07:44 AM

134. try again I said that Breitbart who you brought to us expresses some of the same opinions

that DUers have so do you broad brush them as well? or does your 'analysis' saved for certain DUers

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Response to mstinamotorcity2 (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:56 PM

37. That was my thought exactly. The cognitive dissonance. The amazing thing is that he's overcome so

much. But everything he's overcome is what we caused.

It's also a grave insult for the right wing to assume this soldier would allow anyone to use him as a political tool. To assume he was there involuntarily is an insult to him, the Army and the Rangers.

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Response to okaawhatever (Reply #37)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:24 PM

44. the crazies like the brietbart fox crowd seem to believe this man can't think for himself

this guy deserves the praise he got from the president. The crazies aee blinded by Obama hate.

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Response to okaawhatever (Reply #37)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:41 AM

89. This was my thought.

If I was that soldier, I would be insulted that people would think me so stupid and ignorant that I couldn't figure out if I was being "used" or not. My guess is that he and his father saw it as a great honor to be recognized by the President of the United States, his Commander in Chief, for his sacrifices. He, as a soldier, most likely has a strong sense of duty - whether others agree with it or not. I personally am against wars, but I respect those that have that sense of duty and serve. And, I would never be so pompous as to assume that I'm smarter than they are and that I can see when they are being made fun of or used and they can't. That's insulting and condescending and pompous.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:04 PM

5. FUCK that shit.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:40 PM

27. Amen. We need more insight such as yours.

Please expand.

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #27)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:18 PM

43. no, please, don't

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:08 PM

7. For fucks sake, please stop this META shit.

OK, you didn't like what another DUer said, but you really need to move on.

This obsession with WilliamPitt is not healthy.

Shite...

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:11 PM

8. it is a link to the rw brietbart saying outragious nutty things about a democrat

Hardly meta.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 10:11 AM

146. +1

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:19 PM

11. Really? I didn't see any reference to any DUers in the OP of this thread.

However, if the shoe fits and all that.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:20 PM

13. Wink wink nudge nudge right right?

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Response to Hekate (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:25 PM

15. If you want to condone this behavior, well...



That is on you.

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:28 PM

16. calling out brietvomit is a bad thing? nt

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:35 PM

22. Lol, I am somewhat amused that WilliamPitt got so under your skin.

I know you are not fooling anyone, but at least you tried!



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Response to demmiblue (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:38 PM

24. my op is about breitbart and that site's unhinged comments about Obama and the wounded vet.

Pretty fucked up shit those right wingers are saying.

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:42 PM

28. Why is an attack on Breitbart so troubling?

If you feel this thread is a meta call out of Will Pitt , use the alert button.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:55 PM

35. Agreed.

I didn't see the OP mention anything about this site, although I did, downthread. I WAS disappointed to see the President bashing occurring here recently regarding this "prop" accusation. But, pointing out what right wing sites are spewing is standard reading here. As a poster above said "if the shoe fits, lace that bitch up" - it's not OUR fault that some of the posters here were/are in agreement with the right wingers. I would be ashamed if I was them too.

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Response to PsychGrad (Reply #35)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:00 PM

38. We have many right wing trolls here who pretend to be liberals. Many of them have been here quite

some time. They will put up quite a few posts pretending to be a liberal and then you'll see something that is anti=Obama or contrary to standard Democratic ideology. Much of it will come in the form of someone not being liberal enough. With that particular post I don't think it was the case, but I have a feeling quite a few of the comments were from those folks.

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Response to okaawhatever (Reply #38)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:36 AM

85. I thought of that.

But I saw some pretty liberal folks who jumped on the bandwagon too. I didn't participate, I'm tired of trying to talk sense to some people. I'm not a straight ticketer - but some days, I just can't believe the lengths some people will go to try to tarnish this President's record and efforts. It's so tiresome.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:01 PM

39. It's obviously a meta(ish) call out of William Pitt and those who rec'd his posts, and so was yours.

Pretending otherwise is pretty pathetic.

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #39)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:07 PM

40. The post does not criticize or even

mention any Democrats. It's a straightforward attack on Obama-hating Teabillies.

People who take offense at that have only themselves to blame.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #40)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:18 AM

121. Down with the Teabillies!!1

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #39)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:08 PM

41. brietbart and fox accusations that this man allowed himself to be the president's prop or tool

are sick. But what else would you expect from a bunch of twisted haters?

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #41)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:41 AM

90. No Breitbart went after Ret. Army Gen. Robert Scales in its article

in fact the title is of the Breitbart piece in your OP is

"Retired Army General Accuses Obama of Using Wounded Vet as a SOTU Prop"

and in fact on quick look at other titles I saw opinion pieces there that are similar or the same as some I have seen here on DU just on other subjects - does your opinion apply across the board or only in certain cases?

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #90)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:45 AM

94. went after? nt

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #94)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:53 AM

97. what part of "Retired Army General Accuses Obama of Using Wounded Vet as a SOTU Prop"

is beyond your comprehension Breitbart simply replayed the recording without much comment

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #94)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:55 AM

98. and once again you avoid answering any questions why is that?

as I said I saw other articles that seemed to be of the same opinion as DUers on other issues would you broadbrush all of them as well

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #39)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:57 PM

59. Btw, when the Freepers are getting their anti-Obama talking points from

a DUer, that DUer ought to reflect on whether he's crossed some lines.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3117028/posts

Especially when attacks on Fox fucking News are perceived as a meta callout.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #59)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:02 AM

61. freepers, fox, brietbart

etc.

Deranged

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #59)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 06:35 AM

130. "The OP is not about Will Pitt"

but psssst, it kinda is.

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #39)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:06 AM

62. Yup. agreed. nt

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #39)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:07 AM

102. Geez, climb down off your fucking crosses already.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #28)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:39 AM

122. Even better, those so distressed should go to Ask The Administrators...

.... As well as lodging multiple alerts. It might do them good to "feel heard."

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Response to Hekate (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:22 AM

71. who's foot would that be you seem to know

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:38 PM

25. Oh horseshit.

This isn't meta.

It's not about William Pitt.

It's about what the RW is saying.

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:43 PM

29. Right ...

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Response to 1000words (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:56 PM

36. Go ahead and alert on this OP.

You apparently have a big problem with people criticizing Breitbart and Fox News.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #36)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:18 AM

119. guilty conscience.. As ProSense stated

in your fox news thread. She's surprised no one had come up with the "a broken clock is right twice a day" gambit. Paraphrasing here.

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Response to 1000words (Reply #29)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:38 PM

162. what was wrong with that poll?

What bothered you about it, specifically.

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:26 PM

45. You mean, like the things we used to say about *?

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Response to pocoloco (Reply #45)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:12 AM

63. crazed loonies accusing attacking obama for honoring a vet is sick

Fuck freepers, brietbart, fox news etc.

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #25)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:20 AM

69. And of course what ever the RW says we have to feel the oppsit.

And anyone who does not is a RWer...I get it...guilt by associeation.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #69)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:30 AM

79. So, you agree with that Fox/Breitbart piece?

Or are you insulted by the question?

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #79)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:33 AM

109. No I don't fall for that dichotomy

Of with us or against us.
I don't base my judgments of things on what right wingers say or think...I can think for myself....and I don't pay them any attention at all, but apparently you do.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #109)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:48 AM

111. What is your opinion of the Fox News/Breitbart piece? nt

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #111)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:54 AM

113. I don't have an opinion because I don't watch TV

And don't click on Brightbart anything.
And so they don't shape my opinion at all.
But what this OP is doing is using them to brow beat people into making their opinion the opposite of them...and that is manipulative and controlling.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #69)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:39 AM

87. Of course not.

But, I would say that assuming the worst of this President, when he is doing something as innocent as recognizing the sacrifice of a war veteran, is stretching it quite a bit. If you don't believe that he has any goodness in him at all, I'm not sure what that means for your party affiliations - and honestly, I don't care. But, yes, it's going to make me question it a bit, even though I do tend to give the benefit of the doubt to everyone initially.

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Response to PsychGrad (Reply #87)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:42 AM

110. So ether I think he has no goodness in him at all or I must agree with everything.

He does...again the with us or against meme.
It seems to me that I should question your party affiliation too then because that was the theme of the Bush administration..with us or against us.

But I am assuming nothing when I am embarrassed by the appeal to jingoism by the president I voted for...I see it and don't deny it.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #110)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:02 AM

115. Jingoism!

So anyway, I predict that this latest scandal - as yet unnamed - will sink with more velocity than BENGHAZI!!!, IRS, AP, et al. and that the same DU emoprog antagonists will be waving from the same deck chairs as they swallow the same briny water.

Bon voyage!

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #115)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:09 AM

117. It is not a scandal.

It is an embarrassment to people that don't care for emotional porn.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #110)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:32 PM

159. Dichotomy.

You're the one assuming that it has to be either/or, not me. I was just noticing that you were very quick to assume the worst of this President with a situation that seemed pretty unoffensive to me (and obviously to the soldier and his father who voluntarily participated, the same father and soldier that you are assuming are too stupid/slow/ignorant/whatever to handle their own business and have insight about being used for a prop).

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:39 PM

26. So an attack on Breitbart et al is an attack

on Will Pitt.

Derp.

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:28 PM

48. Pitt writes for Breitbart now?

Is it an ideological thing, or did he just do it for the money?

Curious.

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #48)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:59 PM

60. No, but the Freepers are relying on him as a source of Obama-hating talking points

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #60)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:19 AM

66. Not surprised.

Sabrina, down below, seems to think that there are a lot of Fox and Breitbart fans here. She is, per usual, utterly confused. Rather, there are a lot of Fox and Breitbart fans who've suddenly taken a liking to 300+ DU members.

Politics makes for strange bed-wetters.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:16 PM

9. and some noteable bitters and attention seekers on DU as well...

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:17 PM

10. I was against Bush's wars from the onset.

I cried when I saw that soldier, and he's in an ad for the wounded warrior project.

One of my sons joined the Army Reserves and went through boot camp at Ft. Leonard Wood, MO, and my youngest is in the pool to join the Marine Corps. He was supposed to ship out to Parris Island in July, but now his ship out date is in Sept. I'll be worried sick about that one.

The fuckheads don't seem to realize that LIBERAL parents can raise kids who attend anti war demonstrations, the youngest attended one in DC with me, but want to serve their country.

Fuck them and their distorted views of that soldier and others who want to serve the country in whatever way that someone sees fit. I would've preferred the Peace Corps. for my sons, but that's not what they wanted to do.

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Response to tnlefty (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:14 PM

42. yes that's the way we need to honor our troops

send them over and over and over into a senseless war without end - gee, why can't I as a veteran understand that. F*** me.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #42)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:42 PM

55. We honor you because we love you.

I'm not a veteran and I don't know or will I ever know. I do know about war and how it can change and damage people first hand. And its hell.

Its ending in the last "war" that the last Adm. started.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #55)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:52 PM

57. + 1 nt

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #55)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:39 AM

88. that war has been going on for over a decade

wanna see something that will open your eyes?

go to www.anysoldier.com

click on where to send / addresses / chose the branch

look at all the names on the left

click on them and READ THEM - read what they are asking for

do this daily and it becomes readily apparent that not only are these troops sent to fight in a hopeless, senseless war - they very often lack the basic equipment they need to perform their jobs

It will make you really wonder WTF is really going on with that piece of SHIT war

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Response to Skittles (Reply #42)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 10:30 PM

183. I've never been able to wrap my head around the multiple deployments...

as I never wanted any of it in the first place. More money to veterans and those serving to care for them and less to contractors has been my montra since Viet Nam.

You should know me better than your response. Two of my sons have made a choice to join the military...the youngest who is going into the Marine Corps is the one that I'l be worried sick about, and I'll hope that you'll remember me as I've always been here when/if he's deployed to a nasty place, expected to do nasty things.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:24 PM

14. Keep banging the drum...

good series of posts.

Sid

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:31 PM

18. Let's see if you can pull 300+ Recs

No problem, right?

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Response to 1000words (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:33 PM

20. that is just sad nt

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:35 PM

21. I know

There's no way you make 50.

Oh well ...

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Response to 1000words (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:35 PM

23. who gives a flying fuck about recs? nt

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:52 PM

34. attention whores and drama queens

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Response to frylock (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:26 PM

46. YEP

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Response to 1000words (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:46 PM

30. Ah yes, DU High

I bet they're not even going to prom.

Meet me at my locker after homeroom, kay?

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Response to Bobbie Jo (Reply #30)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:29 AM

106. More like junior high. Remember to wear blue on Tuesday.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:48 PM

31. Yep. It's pathetic. And disgusting.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:51 PM

32. And so there you go.....some right here on this board have sidled up with the Brietbart crew.

 

hope that makes you feel all warm and comfy inside...

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:51 PM

33. Read the same BS here...

last night. I didn't participate, but read page after page of people here accusing President Obama of the same thing. Fragilizing a grown man and soldier as if he was being "used" unbeknownst to himself, which I found extremely patronizing and condescending to a man who has survived 10 deployments during war.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:27 PM

47. I thought you didn't frequent Right Wing Garbage sites? Why are you bringing this trash to DU?

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #47)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:29 PM

49. friend sent it to me in an e mail

Good democrat disgusted by crazy losers like breitbart and fox who are so fevered they would stoop so low as to say such things.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #49)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:32 PM

50. None of my friends send me right wing crap sites like, of all people, Breitbart?? They know better.

Seems we have Fox and Breitbart fans right here on DU. Who would have thought? It does explain many of the right wing talking points we see here lately though.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #50)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:36 PM

53. sbe was like

Look at these maniacs at breitbart accusing a wounded vet of being a tool for the evil obama. And she is right they are fucking nuts.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #49)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:39 PM

54. !



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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #47)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 09:37 AM

142. You mean like the right wing meme about soldiers not being fed breakfast?

You know...the one you posted and were Snopesed on????

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #142)

Sat Feb 1, 2014, 03:01 PM

178. !!!!

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:33 PM

51. Oops! Looks like you hit a tender spot!

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:34 PM

52. They are pasting it all over comment sections of articles also.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:46 PM

56. So, why the fuck is he still in Afghanistan blowing up our kids?

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #56)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:19 AM

67. +1

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Response to Fearless (Reply #67)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 06:59 AM

132. No one can answer!!!! It's insane;)

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:15 AM

64. Why *wouldn't* Obama use a soldier as a prop?

It's clearly very effective at getting low-information voters to accept war.

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #64)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:18 AM

65. so you agree with breitpuke? nt

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #64)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:53 AM

96. What?

You can disagree with war and yet still support and show respect for our soldiers/veterans. You really think Obama was trying to get people to accept war by showing a soldier that is physically damaged and admitting that this soldier was deployed 10 times???? I'm sorry, I'm not getting your logic here. War is, and has been, a necessary/unavoidable evil in our world since the beginning of time. It's going to take a minute to stop it completely. It's kind of hard for our country to just say, "Yeah, we aren't going to participate in war anymore, ya know, cuz it's wrong." I don't know anyone who "likes" war, not even those that are "pro-war". But - it's like trying to stop a moving train - it's not going to just happen. We can't just say stop and withdraw ourselves from the world. What if they all just KEEP ON having war? We are supposed to do what? Just sit here in the middle of it and do what? We live on the same planet, their wars affect us - if they use nuclear weapons, whether we participate or not, we suffer. We have to defend ourselves, period. I agree that many of the wars have been ridiculous - but again, it's a HUGE dynamic and it can't just be changed overnight. Instant gratification is for children, not grownups with fully developed frontal lobes who can reason and think and see consequences.

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Response to PsychGrad (Reply #96)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 09:19 AM

140. "We have to defend ourselves, period."

LOL!

Imperialism is not defense. The wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya were about obtaining resources; oil and mineral deposits. A war in Iran or Syria would be no different.

These wars serve corporate interests, which are the true governing force in this country.

Did you really think it was about the the citizens? LOL! THAT is infantile.

Enjoy the prop.

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #140)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:35 PM

161. Infantile?

I agreed with you about the unnecessary wars. But I'm not the one who is infantile. If you think that we can just say "stop war" and be done with it - good luck with your massive disappointment, because that is NOT going to happen because it's impossible. I am quite aware that many wars are about anything but defense, but that doesn't negate that there are needs for defense in this world. And, again, quite insulting that you minimize the soldier and his experiences to "enjoy the prop". Infantile indeed, not to mention lacking any empathy or insight.

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Response to PsychGrad (Reply #161)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:48 PM

163. "If you think that we can just say "stop war" and be done with it..."

Never thought that.

"Democratic mass parties are bureaucratically organized under the leadership of party officials, professional party and trade union secretaries, etc.... Of course, one must remember that the term 'democratization' can be misleading. The demos itself, in the sense of an inarticulate mass, never 'governs' larger associations; rather it is governed, and its existence only changes the way in which the executive leaders are selected and the measure of influence which the demos, or better, which social circles from its midst are able to exert upon the content and the direction of administration activities by supplementing what is called 'public opinion.' 'Democratization,' in the sense here intended, does not necessarily mean an increasingly active share of the governed in the authority of the social structure. This may be the result of democratization, but it is not necessarily the case.... The most decisive thing here- and indeed it is rather exclusively so- is the leveling of the governed in opposition to the ruling and bureaucratically articulated groups, which in turn may occupy a quite autocratic position, both in fact and form." -Max Weber

I think having the head of Royal Dutch Shell, or KBR, or Blackwater, stand next to the President while he spoke about war would have been more appropriate than a wounded soldier.

But that didn't happen.

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #163)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 06:42 PM

169. I hear your point.

I disagree, but I hear you. I probably would have heard it more clearly had you not felt the need to be hateful and name call immediately. Just for future reference.

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Response to PsychGrad (Reply #169)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 06:51 PM

172. You need to check yourself.

I was responding to your post.

"Instant gratification is for children, not grownups with fully developed frontal lobes who can reason and think and see consequences."

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Response to PsychGrad (Reply #96)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:17 PM

164. You can't defend yourself against terrorism

with full scale invasions, decades long wars and occupations, or by supporting dictatorships conducive to American interests. The injustice that springs from these policies is what provokes terrorism in the first place. Western aggression in the Middle East has always been solely for the purpose of controlling resources for economic and strategic advantage. Ending terrorism can only be done through cooperative law enforcement and an honest, critical examination of US foreign policy.

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Response to ronnie624 (Reply #164)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 06:45 PM

170. I never said we could defend ourselves against terrorism...

with wars like. I agreed that most wars are for resources, not in defense of our safety. I'm honestly tired of repeating myself here, so I'll say it once more and that's it. I agree. I am simply stating that we cannot swear off ALL wars, that is impossible because we may, at some point, have to defend ourselves, and we need to be able to do so.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:20 AM

68. Yes, turns out there's all kinds

of "loser fuckheads who want to generate clicks.

thanks arely.

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Response to Cha (Reply #68)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 11:35 AM

153. Agree, and lots of blind followers for who will swallow anything their fave click generator says

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:28 AM

76. That's right.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:28 AM

77. Barely contained passive aggression.

With spittle.

Someone call the fire department.


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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #77)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:31 AM

81. Even more pathetic is the poster believes he/she is being clever

The author should take his/her own signature line to heart.

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Response to 1000words (Reply #81)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:32 AM

83. And who would "He" be?

nt

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #83)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:35 AM

84. The author of the OP

Point taken. Not sure why I assumed that ...

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #77)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:44 AM

93. LOL

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:31 AM

80. I see what you did there...

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:43 AM

92. I guess that makes me a loser fuckhead.

 

I wear the insult proudly. I do not honor mercenaries, an we have a mercenary military. And these soldiers have chosen the life of a mercenary.

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Response to gLibDem (Reply #92)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:15 AM

104. Many DU members are active duty or vets.

Hey all... say hi to gLibDem while you can!

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #104)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:14 AM

118. Hey I will say HI to him, you....not so much

 

Hi gLibdem!

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #118)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:34 PM

154. Hi!

 

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #104)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:26 AM

128. So you are suggesting that I will be banned.

 

Which I take to mean you will seek to have me banned.

So you will be dishonoring all the active duty DUers who fought for our Consitition because I dare to speak as a liberal Democrat who rejects all things military.

How undemocratic of you.

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Response to gLibDem (Reply #128)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 11:07 AM

149. I LOVE the "so" construct!

And all that vituperation after I just invited everyone to welcome you.

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #149)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:37 PM

155. So the "while you can" were just the random

 

Keystrokes of a monkey attached to your comment after you hit the "post" button?

So you don't like the so-called "so construct"?

So what.

So long!

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Response to gLibDem (Reply #92)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:27 AM

105. Bull. During the Dubya administration I worked extensively with the local VFP

They came to my attention at the peace marches because they were the group with the US flags. They were not ready to give it up, and neither was I. If you don't understand, believe me, it's your loss.

http://www.vfpsb.org/arlington-west/

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Response to Hekate (Reply #105)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:08 AM

124. Like the OP said, I'm a loser, it's my loss.

 

I don't consider it a loss.

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Response to gLibDem (Reply #92)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:30 AM

107. Welcome to DU!

Glad to have you here.


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Response to 1000words (Reply #107)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:22 AM

126. Thanks

 

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:50 AM

95. Those people accusing Obama of using him as a prop are ghouls

Sick fucks.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #95)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:48 AM

112. +1000.

Unfortunately, a few are posting as Liberals on this site.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #112)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:18 AM

120. Then name them

 

You cast scurrilous aspersions...back it up.

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #120)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:19 PM

165. You want Blue to name people so you can alert for call out?

Nice try!

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #165)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:28 PM

166. completely lacking any subtlety nt

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #166)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:33 PM

167. Binka would be proud

oh... wait...

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #165)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 08:33 PM

175. Whatever boss.

 

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #95)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:56 AM

114. +infinity

Makes me slightly sick to my stomach.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:32 AM

108. A blue link?

Garbage in, garbage out.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:41 AM

123. I oppose using wounded vets as props. You have a problem with that?

If you do, that's entirely your problem. You can scour the internet for all the rightwing backup you like. Using vets as props is still wrong and I don't give a fuck how many times you put the word "fuck" in quotation marks. It's wrong.

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Response to last1standing (Reply #123)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:11 AM

125. No, it's the knee-jerk assumption that

Democrats don't honor troops, they only seek to exploit them.

Standard reactionary nonsense from the fringe elements on both extremes.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:22 AM

127. So far we have fox screws, breitbart, and

truthout(sic).. anyone else ignorantly accusing the President of "props" and shit and sick in their soul?

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Response to Cha (Reply #127)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 08:19 AM

137. It is more nuanced than you make it.

The conservative criticism is that it was great to honor the soldier, it was a beautiful moment and that Obama shouldn't have done it because he's not worthy to. They say they hated the speech until that part.

The liberal critique is that the rest of the speech was very good, but ended on a sour note. That we should not hold endless wars and endless deployments up as a point of pride. The soldier was used to suport the perception of the military and war as an American strength, which we should be beyond.

Then, there are those who think that the speech was perfect from start to finish.

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Response to Cha (Reply #127)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 09:54 AM

144. the high wackaloons

At freerepublic have picked up the meme.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #144)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 10:01 AM

145. Yeah, they're all sick in their soul.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 06:12 AM

129. I miss the unrec button.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #129)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 08:47 AM

139. Word.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 06:45 AM

131. Congratulations!

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 07:49 AM

135. Welcome to DU

Enjoy your stay.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 08:12 AM

136. Oh, no! The person who agrees long and loud with an anti gay, anti choice religious

nut is offended that another person agrees with other conservatives! The double standard is strong with this OP, who often declares affection for and agreement with a bigoted loser fuckhead who opposes equality in marriage rights and also opposes contraception 'I love him, support him and pray for him' says the OP when asked about the hate speech.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024047553

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #136)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 08:32 AM

138. that's funny

Thank you for putting the time and effort into making morning.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 09:31 AM

141. There is a Latin expression that fits this:

Res ipsa loquitur.

Translated: The thing speaks for itself.

Our words reveal who we are.

This will be my only comment in this thread.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #141)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 10:17 AM

147. Indeed, our words reveal who we are.. No matter where we might post them

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #147)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 10:21 AM

148. And often words change as people learn.

Thanks for your reply.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #147)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:41 PM

156. Snap!

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #147)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:34 PM

160. Well played, sir

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 09:43 AM

143. I don't care what Breitbart's remaining nutcase followers have to say.

With that being said, a common tactic that the right wing used to shame people into supporting the Iraq war was molding the troops and war together. To them, if you disagreed with war, you didn't support the troops. It's a common bullying tactic of the Neo-Cons, and explains the sensitivity that many have to this issue.

While I don't think Obama was trying to do this, he should have talked about the horrors of war. Why do we honor the troops, but continue to send them to the slaughter? Honoring the troops would be bringing them home to their families, not sending more to die.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 11:17 AM

150. K&R

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 11:23 AM

151. I wouldn't click on Truthout either

 

for the second installment of the soul sickened

(I wonder if that's like a 24 hour flu, or if it will take longer for that soul to recover and in the meantime how does one trust someone with a sick soul?).

Aparently 'propping' a soldier is awful (which was not done in the first place) but profiting from one is okey dokey.



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Response to Whisp (Reply #151)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:42 PM

157. I haven't click in TO since the embarrassing Rove indictment story.

I assume you mean a 24 "business hour" flu.

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Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #157)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:46 PM

158. now that you mention it.

 



Just think it's so cheesey to get clicks for TO with this story - translated to $$$. The irony is overwhelming.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 11:30 AM

152. Does anyone remember the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED stunt, let Bushie go flying

Onto our ship with a big banner (maybe this made up for some of his AWOL time) and he used our precious military for his "war president" thrills.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 06:17 PM

168. I'll give you one thing...

you're as subtle as a brick wall at 60 MPH

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 06:50 PM

171. Unrec...disagreeing with someone here is one thing...

Posting this stuff because you're trying to escalate a feud is dickheadishness.

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #171)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 06:57 PM

174. I am disagreeing with brietbart, freepers and fox

are they here?

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #174)

Sat Feb 1, 2014, 02:38 PM

177. You're jumping on this opportunity as a roundabout way of calling William Pitt a loser fuckhead

which really says a lot about you, frankly.

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #177)

Sat Feb 1, 2014, 03:06 PM

179. Yes it does. Thankfully the mask is finally coming off for some here.

Revealing their revolting attitudes.

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #177)

Sat Feb 1, 2014, 03:06 PM

180. so I should refrain from criticizing right wing dickheads because some blogger you like agrees with

said rightwing dickheads?. Nah gah dah.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Jan 31, 2014, 06:51 PM

173. I am bracing myself for the Christie defense!

 

Now that would be a real 'traffic stopper'.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Feb 1, 2014, 03:09 PM

181. ODS sure does make for some strange bedfellows!

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Response to zappaman (Reply #181)

Sat Feb 1, 2014, 03:12 PM

182. you have turned this party into a festival of lies!

It hurts my very soul!

Tell you what is funny is how nobody in the real world is having this discussion at all.

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