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Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:48 PM

Clinton has largest recorded early primary lead in at least 30 years.

Hillary Rodham Clinton holds a commanding 6 to 1 lead over other Democrats heading into the 2016 presidential campaign, while the Republican field is deeply divided with no clear front-runner, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Clinton trounces her potential primary rivals with 73 percent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents, reinforcing a narrative of inevitability around her nomination if she runs. Vice President Biden is second with 12 percent, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.) is third with 8 percent.For 2016, Hillary Clinton has commanding lead over Democrats, GOP race wide open

Although Clinton’s favorability rating has fallen since she stepped down as secretary of state a year ago, she has broad Democratic support across ideological, gender, ethnic and class lines. Her lead is the largest recorded in an early primary matchup in at least 30 years of Post-ABC polling.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-2016-hillary-clinton-has-commanding-lead-over-democrats-gop-race-wide-open/2014/01/29/188bb3f4-8904-11e3-833c-33098f9e5267_story.html

Damn she is kicking some ass.

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Reply Clinton has largest recorded early primary lead in at least 30 years. (Original post)
arely staircase Jan 2014 OP
bigdarryl Jan 2014 #1
arely staircase Jan 2014 #2
Gman Jan 2014 #3
magical thyme Jan 2014 #4
arely staircase Jan 2014 #5
magical thyme Jan 2014 #10
grantcart Jan 2014 #26
magical thyme Jan 2014 #30
Logical Jan 2014 #6
arely staircase Jan 2014 #7
closeupready Jan 2014 #8
arely staircase Jan 2014 #9
Armstead Jan 2014 #11
LordGlenconner Jan 2014 #13
Armstead Jan 2014 #29
arely staircase Jan 2014 #34
Armstead Jan 2014 #36
nyquil_man Jan 2014 #12
arely staircase Jan 2014 #14
nyquil_man Jan 2014 #16
Fumesucker Jan 2014 #15
arely staircase Jan 2014 #28
Fumesucker Jan 2014 #33
elfin Jan 2014 #17
arely staircase Jan 2014 #35
Wilms Jan 2014 #18
arely staircase Jan 2014 #20
LanternWaste Jan 2014 #32
hughee99 Jan 2014 #19
arely staircase Jan 2014 #21
hughee99 Jan 2014 #23
StevieM Jan 2014 #37
closeupready Jan 2014 #22
arely staircase Jan 2014 #25
reddread Jan 2014 #24
antigop Jan 2014 #27
rocktivity Jan 2014 #31
StevieM Jan 2014 #38
rocktivity Jan 2014 #39

Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:50 PM

1. She's got NOTHING yet the primary is two years away it's just a stupid poll

Those polls will tighten.

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Response to bigdarryl (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:51 PM

2. 30 years

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:59 PM

3. She will be the next president

This harkens back to 1984 when there was no question Walter Mondale would get the nomination. Many groups, just like the folks here pushed, back against that kind of inevitability. The AFL CIO pledged after that election never to endorse someone before the primaries were over again. Many of us in labor liked Gary Hart but our hands became tied.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:01 PM

4. she was a clear front runner with 39% in a CNN poll in early February 2006

Barack Obama didn't show up in the CNN poll until late October 2006.

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Response to magical thyme (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:03 PM

5. she has almost twice that now

Hasn't been a candidate so popular with her party's base in more than a generation.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:07 PM

10. and when Barack Obama showed up, he started with 15% in their 1st poll

in a huge field.

Nothing to say another Barack Obama won't appear and immediately turn it into a contest.

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Response to magical thyme (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:35 PM

26. Who do you think is going to show up and challenge her with these numbers?

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Response to grantcart (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:03 PM

30. I have no idea. But early front runners are not shoo-ins.

She was the front-runner before, and a dark horse appeared "out of nowhere."

It happened before and it could happen again. It all depends on the 1% wars, imo.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:03 PM

6. FFS, I hope she does not run, we need a real liberal! nt

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Response to Logical (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:05 PM

7. she sure is popular with democrats nt

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:05 PM

8. Did they have time to poll non-millionaires?

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Response to closeupready (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:07 PM

9. democrats. they polled democrats nt

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:09 PM

11. With her support of non-liberal policies, I suspect....

The former president depicted in your icon would have brought her into his famous woodshed

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Response to Armstead (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:15 PM

13. I'm sure he would have done just that

Right after he got done escalating the war in Vietnam.

And frankly, our 60s era campus activists of the time would be taking all of us to the woodshed for completely ignoring the other not so nice things Johnson did while in office.



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Response to LordGlenconner (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:43 PM

29. Since she voted for the Iraq War, yiour argunment doesn't hold much weight

Yes, Johnson did a lot of not nice things, but on balance he advanced a liberal agenda that did much more good on balance.

However, Clintons did a lot to reverse the progress LBJ made.

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Response to Armstead (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:27 PM

34. what exactly did the Clintons do

to "reverse the progress made by LBJ"?

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:49 PM

36. "Free Trade"....Deregulation....Welfare Deform....Corporate Health Care "Reform"

They basically led the charge to push the Democratic Party to the right and into the hands of Wall St.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:11 PM

12. Great! Now we can skip the election. nt

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Response to nyquil_man (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:15 PM

14. no the election will be awesome

Shaping up quite nice don't you think?

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:19 PM

16. Why waste all that money on primaries when it's a done deal?

Let's just declare her the nominee right now!

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:17 PM

15. Open the Pod Bay doors, Hal





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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:40 PM

28. we are the 8 percent! 1!

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 03:12 PM

33. Hal, no shit, I'm asking nice, open the damn Pod Bay doors man

This monolith has a strange inevitability about it, I can't shake the feeling I've seen it before.

It's a feeling of DejaMoo.

Somewhere I've heard this bull before.


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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:20 PM

17. I hope some strong contenders emerge

I would welcome her Presidency, albeit with reservations of her corporatist slant.

However, if something godawful should happen to her between now and then, we could be screwn.

Adore Joe, but age and past health crises would be very real problems.

I think it is too early for Warren, plus I think she is now in the right place at the right time.

We need more younger, energetic, experienced Progressives with national recognition on our bench.

May still be too early for the Castro guys, but I yearn for more national exposure for them.

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Response to elfin (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:46 PM

35. if one does and wins

they will be called sell out corporatists here before their hand comes off the Bible.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:21 PM

18. "Damn she is kicking some ass."

That's was the DLCers do. OURS.

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Response to Wilms (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:23 PM

20. not a fan of the next president I see

Oh well.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 03:06 PM

32. Or possibly, simply not a fan of prophecy...

Or possibly, simply not a fan of prophecy...

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:23 PM

19. Nice, I can't remember a candidate having such a huge lead in a contested primary

since 2008. The plan to "clear the field" well in advance didn't go well then, I'm not convinced it will work this time either.

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Response to hughee99 (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:25 PM

21. her lead was roughly half what she has now

So, apples oranges.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:32 PM

23. That's not how apples and oranges works.

This is an oranges / bigger oranges comparison.... and I'm still not sold on the idea that the size of your orange is a great indicator of anything this far away from the election.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:55 PM

37. Actually, her lead over Obama when he first entered the race was about 15 points.

She was polling in the mid-30s, he was polling at about 20 percent. That is a significantly lesser advantage than the one that George Bush or Al Gore had in 1999-2000, or than Bob Dole had in 1995-1996. She did well over the first 9 months and by the fall of 2007 her lead was about 25 points.

Her current lead is 55-60 points. That is much more than Bush, Gore or Dole had.

I think that the race for the nomination will be between Clinton and former Montana governor Brian Schweitzer. I think that Biden, Warren and O'Malley will sit it out.

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Response to hughee99 (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:28 PM

22. Yes. She's always the inevitable candidate, never the candidate.

Always the bridesmaid, never the bride, lol.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:33 PM

25. 30 years of polling nt

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:33 PM

24. the harder they fall n/t

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:37 PM

27. ah, yes, the "inevitability" meme appears once again. Add "1" to the meme counter. nt

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:58 PM

31. TRANSLATION: Thanks to Chris "Governor Soprano" Christie's Bridge(t)-Gate

The 2016 GOP presidential candidate field is the poorest in 30 years.


rocktivity

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #31)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:58 PM

38. Christie has done a lot more wrong than just bridge-gate. He's basically a thug (eom)

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Response to StevieM (Reply #38)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:06 PM

39. I nicknamed him "Governor Soprano" years ago.




rocktivity

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