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Sat Mar 17, 2012, 10:57 PM

Things are getting out of hand in our country.

I have been reading, hearing seeing and witnessing many disturbing things regarding the rights we as Americans have had for decades and centuries being dismantled in a subversive yet obvious manner. Subversive and obvious sound like contradictions but when ignorant people are trying to destroy something created by people with high I.Q's they expose their ignorance. I predict there will be an obvious reaction, be it legal, peaceful, and possibly violent to the degradation of common rights to all people in America. We better get ready and be aware because the right wing is in all out assault mode. If anyone thinks I'm exaggerating all you need to do is read American history or world history. We are not immune to the common experiences of mankind. History repeats itself like it or not. I have been on the planet long enough to have personally witnessed the things I've mentioned and I'm sure I'm not the only one on DU that has.

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Reply Things are getting out of hand in our country. (Original post)
Lint Head Mar 2012 OP
ProSense Mar 2012 #1
Preybrother Mar 2012 #2
Odin2005 Mar 2012 #3
Dragonfli Mar 2012 #6
woo me with science Mar 2012 #15
FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #19
Dragonfli Mar 2012 #20
Odin2005 Mar 2012 #4
just1voice Mar 2012 #5
Old and In the Way Mar 2012 #7
ProSense Mar 2012 #9
hay rick Mar 2012 #10
woo me with science Mar 2012 #13
ProSense Mar 2012 #14
CJCRANE Mar 2012 #12
socialindependocrat Mar 2012 #8
nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #11
Hotler Mar 2012 #16
woo me with science Mar 2012 #17
woo me with science Mar 2012 #18
KansDem Mar 2012 #21

Response to Lint Head (Original post)

Sat Mar 17, 2012, 11:03 PM

1. Getting?

Rand Paul is in the Senate. Can anyone watch the clip of him on a Congressional panel with Senator Sanders (posted here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002436891) and not think: WTF?

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Response to Preybrother (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 17, 2012, 11:31 PM

3. Have a nice, short stay, troll.

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Response to Preybrother (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 17, 2012, 11:43 PM

6. Oh come on man subversive? Really? You want to reach common ground with the fascist GOP?

What is polarizing is the war on woman's rights, the only common ground I have seen is that both parties now appear to have adopted all of Bush's rationales for suspending civil liberties or ignoring them entirely.

What is subversive is my Democratic party will no longer oppose the GOP on such issues although thankfully they still will (half of them anyway) oppose the GOP's war on woman, I suppose the one good thing left in the party is too polarizing in your opinion.

What common ground do you suggest we adopt regarding women's reproductive rights? That is all we have left, why do you want us to be more like the GOP on this as well? It is one of the few differences left that is more than a matter of degree of Republican to Republican-lite.

The Op should/could have supplied examples, but he is not a subversive Mr McCarthy

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 10:49 AM

15. "both parties...have adopted all of Bush's rationales for suspending civil liberties..."

That's not the only common ground. The corporate elite in both parties are working in near total complicity on economic issues. The systematic transfer of wealth they are accomplishing from our pockets to the one percent goes hand in hand with the destruction of our civil rights, because it is our ability to fight back and defend ourselves against the looting that they are trying to curtail.

The wedge issues are really the only areas left in which the two corporate parties still disagree, and IMO that is by design. They can continue with what is important to them, the looting of our country, while we battle each other rather than standing up to stop them.

We have lost representation, and wedge issues are being used to keep us distracted from the economic complicity of the parties, while they strip us of our rights. If we allow this to continue, we will reach a point where they won't need to let us have the wedge issues anymore. They will simply impose rule. Democrats who care deeply about issues of equality and women's rights and equal marriage need to realize that fighting back against the corporate/economic takeover is JUST as important as standing up for the social issues themselves, because money is the root of power. We have to get the money out of politics, and the corporate shills out of our party, so that we can have real representation again.

Voting is not enough anymore when both parties are working for the economic agenda of the one percent. We also need to occupy.





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Response to woo me with science (Reply #15)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 12:38 PM

19. SOMEONE CALL 911 A BLACK MAN IS TRYING TO GIVE US HEALTHCARE AND TAX THE RICH!

Puh-Leeze.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Reply #19)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 02:53 PM

20. I am sorry you feel that way, The Heritage Health care plan was interesting, but did you even read

the post? The tax cut extension the rich got was also a hell of an achievement but the post you responded to had nothing to do with either one of your torette like convulsions of disapproval for what the black man you seem to hate seems to have done (he actually has done the opposite so you are wrong there), so answer his post or stop disrupting.

If you want to start a post claiming Obama is too liberal and we should call the cops I will respond to explain how extending tax cuts for the rich, lowering corporate rates (to make us "competitive" I guess) and enacting a Heritage Foundation health INSURANCE bill designed in the eighties and pushed by Newt in 93 to give Insurance companies complete control of a captive market without any competing socialized plan is not so liberal that you should call the cops then I will be happy to do so.

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Response to Lint Head (Original post)

Sat Mar 17, 2012, 11:33 PM

4. What I find most horrifying is the outright glorification of ignorance

Being able to think logically is "elitist" and that is "bad" and "un-American"

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Response to Lint Head (Original post)

Sat Mar 17, 2012, 11:37 PM

5. $4 gas for one, police state for another, criminal institutions and propaganda

 

are some of the things getting out of hand so I completely agree, it's going to burst in some way or another.

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Response to Lint Head (Original post)

Sat Mar 17, 2012, 11:49 PM

7. Normally, I'd expect a swift and powerful repudiation at the polls.

Obviously, the Republican Party has nationalized their war on women and are trying to dismantle everything progressive this country has been built on.

But there are 3 things that give them the confidence to move on their agenda.

(1) Citizens United - the 1% can now target any elected official and take them out with unlimited cash for attack ads
(2) Electronic voting machines - we know they can be gamed
(3) Voter Rights restrictions - Republicans are equally busy making sure a huge segment of our population can't vote

Sadly, I think the great experiment of democracy is pretty much over. There's a One Party movement underway where Republicans will have the corporate/religious backing to remake this country into their own image. The morons who vote against their best interest by thinking they are Republicans, but aren't in the top 5% will be joining us in our Brave New World.

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Response to Old and In the Way (Reply #7)

Sat Mar 17, 2012, 11:56 PM

9. One more

4) People who continue to claim that it doesn't matter if a Republican or Democrat wins.

With extremism gaining in the Republican Party, this is dangerous. The 2010 election put a lot of lunatics in place.

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Response to ProSense (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 12:40 AM

10. And another

5) People who pretend that Democrats aren't part of the problem.

Both 4 and 5 are unfair and unconstructive caricatures of other people's opinions.

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Response to hay rick (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 09:50 AM

13. Thank you. This complicity, this pretending

that only one side is doing it, is a major part of the problem.

The fact that corporate Democrats are persistently defended by their shills is a major reason that they and the Republicans continue to get away with this.

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Response to hay rick (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 10:15 AM

14. Oh

And another

5) People who pretend that Democrats aren't part of the problem.

...I completely agree. There are those Democrats who are conservative Democrats, those who are into false equivalencies and those who make excuse for hyping assholes.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002436891

That's the problem.

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Response to ProSense (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 09:10 AM

12. One side wants to impose religious laws but remove all consumer, labor and environmental protections

I think you're right. There's a clear difference this time.


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Response to Lint Head (Original post)

Sat Mar 17, 2012, 11:54 PM

8. Things getting out of hand - we all know what they are

All of the attacks are against freedom of choice

Freedom to choose who you love

Freedom to control your own body

Freedom to vote for the representatives of your choice.
Then, after you vote you find they're all bought anyway!
(except Bernie and a few others)

I will not live in a country "ruled" by people who say I can't choose
my own life. How can the teabaggers make it so obvious that they want to rule the United States and dictate how we should live and expect that people will vote them into office.

But they do have supporters - How do people get so brain-dead?

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Response to Lint Head (Original post)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 12:47 AM

11. Yup...why a few times I have made a reference to

1859.

Two states, Wyoming ( the carrier is over the top guys, you are land locked). And Arizona are now passing bills to raise an armed force outside the guard.

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Response to Lint Head (Original post)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:33 AM

16. The American people don't have the guts.....

to take to the streets in mass protest. To many repugs and dems have the attitude I have mine fuck everybody else. To many have the attitude until it happens to me it's not my problem.

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Response to Hotler (Reply #16)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:52 AM

17. It will continue to happen to more and more....

The question is, will we have any civil rights left by the time we reach critical mass.

It is going to be an Occupy spring.

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Response to Lint Head (Original post)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 12:26 PM

18. K&R

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Response to Lint Head (Original post)

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 03:23 PM

21. I'm really surprised violence hasn't erupted by now.

The right has had its death squads and assassination teams, both here and abroad.

From the plot to overthrow FDR, to the assassination of JFK, MLK, and RFK, to the character assassination of Carter to the "impeachment" of Clinton to the stolen election of 2000 to all the shit being thrown at Obama; from Diebold to waterboarding to pepperspraying to tasering; from "retroactive immunity" to TARP; from "Citizens United" to voter-suppression laws; the rightwing always gets want it wants.

Oh, but we can always vote every two years!

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