Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:44 AM
Holly_Hobby (2,651 posts)
Russel Tice - The OTHER NSA whistleblower (!)
I received a link from a lefty friend today. I admit to knowing nothing about the website, however, considering who it came from, I read the article, which includes a video interview and a partial transcript. O.M.G. is all I can say.
1. Targets - News organizations, Colin Powell, military Generals including Petraeus, Judge Alito, Barack Obama, Congress, and on and on and on.
2. Administered by none other than VP Cheney's office. Yeah, surprise, surprise.
3. Bush lied about it and Obama is lying about it.
4. Russell Tice actually came out on Keith Olbermann's show many years ago, but no one seemed to care.
5. Every letter sent through the USPS is photographed and digitally stored.
Parts of the transcript of Tice's interview:
Abby: I guess the next question, who is administering the surveillance?
Tice: That’s a good question. I don’t know the answer to that. It looked like, the plugging in of these phone numbers was being done in the evenings at NSA. So almost it was like being done on the sly even so that most NSA employees did not know what was going on. Now, a high-level person at NSA told me this was being directed from the vice president’s office. That would be Vice-President Dick Cheney. I don’t know that for sure but that’s what I was told from a very senior person at NSA.
Abby: It makes me wonder about people like Dick Cheney. Are they still working behind the scenes? We know that these people have been working in the administration behind the scenes for decades. I mean, Kissinger, all these people, they’re kind of, who knows, do you think they’re still vetting people like Obama, to get him in the position that he is in. But you know what? Political opponents have been spying on each other for decades so how is this different now?
Tice: What’s different about this is at the Orwellian scale. This is the everything scale. This is not just Richard Nixon going after a few, you know, enemies’ list. This is everybody and everything. And now NSA is literally tapping every communication, every digital communication in this country, content, not just the metadata, the content. And when they’re saying, “well, it’s not that far,” once again, they’re lying. They continue to lie about the full capability.
Abby: You said that we are living in a police state right now. Why?
Tice: Well, I sort of consider this sort of a, the light police state. Because they’re hiding the fact that it is a police state. I mean the fact that they can literally go into all of our communications, all of the digital communications, the fact that … It’s been disclosed recently that the post office is now doing a cover on every tangible letter that goes to the post office. They’re taking the picture of everything. They’re looking at the return address and they’re looking at the main address at who is mailing something. And that is also being digitally stored. So every means of communication in this country, everything is being watched by the federal government. And that is Orwellian and that is a trademark of a police state.
I have to run, but I'll be back later.
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Russel Tice - The OTHER NSA whistleblower (!) (Original post)
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Response to Holly_Hobby (Original post)
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 01:00 PM
TroglodyteScholar (5,477 posts)
2. 5. Every letter sent through the USPS is photographed and digitally stored.
Do you truly find this one believable? If so, I'd appreciate a short explanation of how it's done.
Response to TroglodyteScholar (Reply #2)
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 01:30 PM
librechik (26,693 posts)
4. probably at the same time they put the postmark on every single letter
all done with scanners and printers, nowadays.
But of course, we will never know for sure, will we?
Response to Holly_Hobby (Original post)
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 01:08 PM
joeybee12 (50,148 posts)
3. NSA Blackmailing Obama?
I'd say they're blackmailing quite a few people...I really doubt that the fervent support of the NSA by soooooo many lawmakers is solely motivated by their concern for natioanl security.