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EarlG

(21,947 posts)
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:03 PM Dec 2013

Lol, George Zimmerman's artwork looks familiar

Last edited Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Over a decade ago we purchased this image from PhotoDisc (now Getty Images) for about $20...



And used it on the T-shirts we gave to DU donors...





But if you zoom in a bit...



And give it a little photoshop magic...



Apparently it's now worth around $100,000!



EDITED TO ADD: just noticed that this seems to be getting a lot of attention so I wanted to add that it was Skinner who spotted the similarity between the images in the office this morning, I then put the post together. Credit where credit's due!

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Lol, George Zimmerman's artwork looks familiar (Original Post) EarlG Dec 2013 OP
Great catch! Wait Wut Dec 2013 #1
So this is what the term Scam Artist means. JimDandy Dec 2013 #197
Oh, HELL NO!!!! ETA- Link to the Ebay sale" NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #2
Which one of you hooligans bid over $99,000 on it? Fuddnik Dec 2013 #101
As a former Power Seller Stargazer09 Dec 2013 #211
Would be funny if a dummy account wins it and GZ owes taxes on the sale. Thor_MN Dec 2013 #244
What would be funny Stargazer09 Dec 2013 #264
There appears to be several "bad eggs" Mnpaul Dec 2013 #289
OMG. myrna minx Dec 2013 #3
What a find!!11! lpbk2713 Dec 2013 #4
"and still make a killing" tblue Dec 2013 #186
Ha! At least Bush's bad art is original. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2013 #5
Not only are the images copied... AlbertCat Dec 2013 #60
"I done it with ma own poop" yurbud Dec 2013 #98
Did ya poop spell out 'ART'? icymist Dec 2013 #234
"yeah, and then God said people'd pay a lot for it: 'Thou ART worthy.'" yurbud Dec 2013 #242
LOL!!! Segami Dec 2013 #6
And the wording is stenciled! Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #7
Too funny. Lol. Agschmid Dec 2013 #8
Be fair! Feral Child Dec 2013 #9
LOL polly7 Dec 2013 #20
Good work EarlG Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #10
He better hurry up and call 911 to tell *his* side of things. myrna minx Dec 2013 #181
I so want to be able to let bidders on Ebay know about this!!! n/t ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #11
There's a link where you can ask a question of the seller arcane1 Dec 2013 #107
Bid retracted! Coyotl Dec 2013 #12
good. barbtries Dec 2013 #32
That's not a living wage! Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #57
Not sure "living" would be a worry for Inmate George jmowreader Dec 2013 #113
They'd have him in Punk City.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #126
Oh, you never know... jmowreader Dec 2013 #195
He was "rolling his ground" on the stairs mindwalker_i Dec 2013 #206
In more ways than one. jmowreader Dec 2013 #233
Bidders are looking for a piece of george zimmerman, a fraud, crook, worthless soul. Hoyt Dec 2013 #13
I smelled a big fat rat when I first saw the "original Zimmy masterpiece". bullwinkle428 Dec 2013 #14
I did, too. The picture looked more like a photograph than a painting. Laurian Dec 2013 #19
Me too. I was surprised how "good" it was. Aldo Leopold Dec 2013 #102
Here's the substance of my chat with Getty Images about the matter: NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #15
Oooooo! Snap! Nice work, NYC_SKP. I was just trying to find a way to let Ebay bidders know. n/t ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #17
The bidders won't care.. They love Zimmy... SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #170
He isn't posting all the questions and I doubt many of those bidders are real. uppityperson Dec 2013 #179
Yeah I went back and looked at the "Bid list" SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #189
If zimmy is bidding to drive the price up csziggy Dec 2013 #200
They're so easily led astray.Bet they won't buy it though SummerSnow Dec 2013 #205
awesome. Soylent Brice Dec 2013 #21
Awesome dmr Dec 2013 #22
Great work, thank you. Too good. uppityperson Dec 2013 #24
Did you tell them that Jerry the Tapir could have done a more "original" artwork than Z? pinboy3niner Dec 2013 #25
...gonna need a bigger canvas! NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #34
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Segami Dec 2013 #27
That's a HUGE copyright violation Auggie Dec 2013 #31
Is it huge really? aspicer Dec 2013 #291
Yes, it's huge. Unless he did that with Getty Images' permission, they could sue his ass. winter is coming Dec 2013 #292
Great work, NYC_SKP! sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #37
lol! That's excellent. HappyMe Dec 2013 #40
BRILLIANT! Raine1967 Dec 2013 #41
It is so brilliant and I think Rachel would love it. I think she covered Z pretty much earlier..n/t monmouth3 Dec 2013 #61
I sent her the link to this thread. GreatCaesarsGhost Dec 2013 #74
Good on ya...n/t monmouth3 Dec 2013 #78
I so hope she covers it! It's hillarious. idwiyo Dec 2013 #89
I would NOT be shocked to see her touch on this tonight! bullwinkle428 Dec 2013 #109
Also send it to Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and Bill Mahr. they would do a real number on him. tblue37 Dec 2013 #230
Jon Stewart is going to have a field day with this story. Coyotl Dec 2013 #155
Good for you Mz Pip Dec 2013 #47
Amen. Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #128
Good work, NYC_SKP! nt sheshe2 Dec 2013 #53
You win internets. myrna minx Dec 2013 #59
You beat me to it! THANK YOU! idwiyo Dec 2013 #63
Good Going!!! cynzke Dec 2013 #76
Great work NYC_SKP zeemike Dec 2013 #80
THAT is fucking awesome! Sissyk Dec 2013 #103
Very good. grantcart Dec 2013 #129
Peter's reply is priceless! herding cats Dec 2013 #149
I believe he's altered the image enough for it to be considered "original." 1000words Dec 2013 #169
Nope, he hasn't. Th1onein Dec 2013 #209
I am pleased. 1000words Dec 2013 #222
Ebay reps are always "looking into" something or other. mellymai Dec 2013 #176
The letter isn't to EBay, it was to Getty, who represent copyright holders. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #177
I wonder if Getty could sue ebay as well for covering up the fraud? icymist Dec 2013 #239
I doubt they'd do that. Far more likely they'll simply inform ebay, which will pull the auction. nt winter is coming Dec 2013 #293
rofl, I love it. SummerSnow Dec 2013 #193
Royalty Free aspicer Dec 2013 #286
I think you are confused between copyright and royalty free. What do you think about GZ? uppityperson Dec 2013 #288
Had to put mine on dmr Dec 2013 #16
Holy shit!!!! darkangel218 Dec 2013 #18
Hahahahahaaha. Too funny. More mocking "art" is showing up on ebay too. uppityperson Dec 2013 #23
The last one is really quite good: Contrary1 Dec 2013 #106
EXCELLENT! dawn frenzy adams Dec 2013 #245
I love the Curious George!! WCLinolVir Dec 2013 #275
rofl....haha SummerSnow Dec 2013 #26
He's now posted a picture of himself posing with it in his sale listing. polly7 Dec 2013 #35
Did you read the questions and comments on Ebay? SummerSnow Dec 2013 #43
I did. polly7 Dec 2013 #45
Yea. Real artist know their medium SummerSnow Dec 2013 #52
Oops, he did answer ... polly7 Dec 2013 #58
... ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #67
LOL I know, right?! polly7 Dec 2013 #69
He needed to put "these visions" onto the blank canvas? Th1onein Dec 2013 #75
Yea, he has visions alright. ... SummerSnow Dec 2013 #99
I have visions, too. Th1onein Dec 2013 #105
House paint. What a moran Major Nikon Dec 2013 #198
You've got to wonder, with all the questions letting him know the jig polly7 Dec 2013 #212
Dumb as a stump and ate up with the Dunning–Kruger Major Nikon Dec 2013 #214
Picasso used house paint jmowreader Dec 2013 #240
Scam or conspiracy... Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #130
If You Click cynzke Dec 2013 #92
Excellent! polly7 Dec 2013 #104
I posted a link to the original Getty image, and filed a complaint too arcane1 Dec 2013 #117
I also filed a complaint with eBay. We'll see.nt FLyellowdog Dec 2013 #285
can't stand looking at his fucking face JI7 Dec 2013 #261
Holy Guacamole!! meegbear Dec 2013 #28
You mean on top of everything else...he's also a DIP? pinboy3niner Dec 2013 #48
Just reported him to Ebay as well Oilwellian Dec 2013 #29
Someone should send the seller a message asking if it was plagiarized. Coyotl Dec 2013 #36
I just sent him a question Oilwellian Dec 2013 #44
rofl....I bet now he'll have all comments disabled SummerSnow Dec 2013 #192
Well darn it Oilwellian Dec 2013 #196
He wont answer for fear of exposure.. SummerSnow Dec 2013 #201
I just asked what percentage of the sale gts sent to Getty and how much he gets to keep uppityperson Dec 2013 #94
Ebay is going to shut him down .lol SummerSnow Dec 2013 #42
Good! Thank you. idwiyo Dec 2013 #66
Zimmerman's faux painting retsue Dec 2013 #194
he's going to make a bunch of money barbtries Dec 2013 #30
God bless Trayvon Martin Coyotl Dec 2013 #33
+1 million darkangel218 Dec 2013 #38
Perfect Hoyt Dec 2013 #39
Much better. nt TBF Dec 2013 #82
Appears To Be Plagiarism BodieTown Dec 2013 #46
He's claiming to have used latex paint on canvas (see questions on ebay page) Oilwellian Dec 2013 #54
Multiple ways of doing it... even "paint by numbers" software. hunter Dec 2013 #72
Thanks Oilwellian Dec 2013 #85
Immediately when I say this"painting".... FarPoint Dec 2013 #131
If It Were Me... BodieTown Dec 2013 #73
As hunter said above... Oilwellian Dec 2013 #88
Doubtful BodieTown Dec 2013 #96
He's no professional conman. Mariana Dec 2013 #114
No time! He "needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible!!!" arcane1 Dec 2013 #121
Using Latex housepaint donated to him by a "friend", since his memory couldn't hold on to the vision adirondacker Dec 2013 #160
"...these visions onto the blank canvas..." What a maroon. ..nt TeeYiYi Dec 2013 #163
"Professional" con man? hunter Dec 2013 #118
I Can't... BodieTown Dec 2013 #124
"Probably sought an attorney's advice." Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #140
But he never *pays* his attorneys! nt tblue37 Dec 2013 #235
unethical attorney friends are a dime a dozen around here. Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #238
Where to begin. Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #137
You're right EC Dec 2013 #258
If it was you... jmowreader Dec 2013 #241
Paint Jet JackHughes Dec 2013 #111
Perhaps Rand Paul can "write" the forward to Zimmerman's "original art" book. myrna minx Dec 2013 #191
Uhhhh...copyright? What's a copyright? SoapBox Dec 2013 #49
Remember Al Capone! SCVDem Dec 2013 #50
And O.J. Simpson. nt tblue37 Dec 2013 #237
Now he can run as VP in 2016... Dopers_Greed Dec 2013 #51
Another lurker with some art skills here toxicopoulus Dec 2013 #55
Shap! idwiyo Dec 2013 #70
... TBF Dec 2013 #83
"Conservative" idiots will still line up to buy it ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #56
The bidding is stalled with four days to go. I expect the retractions to start pouring in. Coyotl Dec 2013 #108
I'm not sure the right wing nut who buys this will care about originality mellymai Dec 2013 #185
Please, Post it on e-bay! Also, couldn't it be copyright violation? idwiyo Dec 2013 #62
email PayPal tdb63 Dec 2013 #64
LOL Scurrilous Dec 2013 #65
K&R! sheshe2 Dec 2013 #68
I KNEW IT! You know, he can get sued for that? Th1onein Dec 2013 #71
Keep reporting this to E Bay! sirkeng Dec 2013 #77
That little tidbit should be passed on to some enterprising news person Skidmore Dec 2013 #79
I'm having a very hard time believing ... surrealAmerican Dec 2013 #81
Yes, and... BodieTown Dec 2013 #120
I guess my point here is that ... surrealAmerican Dec 2013 #164
He can barely paint his name. WCLinolVir Dec 2013 #277
$100,000 for "regular household latex paint" ROFLMFAO!!! Coyotl Dec 2013 #84
So what's the best way to tint my DU T-shirt design blue to make it a GZ original? pinboy3niner Dec 2013 #86
He should have never messed with da Blue. Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #175
'Liberty and justice for all'! sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #87
If this is true a it is illegal. You cannot take an image owned by another, alter it and Lint Head Dec 2013 #90
EBay and PayPal will make over $3000 and won't remove it tdb63 Dec 2013 #91
Well, then, Getty can sue them, too. kestrel91316 Dec 2013 #115
They've removed counterfeit vintage Les Paul guitars selling for MORE than $100,000... Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2013 #162
You can't make this shit up. CFLDem Dec 2013 #93
That's a "canvas transfer" of an electronic image. jfkraus Dec 2013 #95
That's Courier Bold font. Coyotl Dec 2013 #112
Notice how neat the text is, compared to his signature arcane1 Dec 2013 #144
He's desperate. madaboutharry Dec 2013 #97
Didn't Shepard Fairey get in a lot of trouble for doing the same thing? JaneyVee Dec 2013 #100
Artwork by coward child killer mikeysnot Dec 2013 #110
Hey, you stole my avatar (that I borrowed from somewhere)! erronis Dec 2013 #228
Get a load of this message to @therealGeorgeZ KayJay503 Dec 2013 #263
OMG! Gman Dec 2013 #116
I sent the info to Rachel Madow tdb63 Dec 2013 #119
At least Andy Warhol panted his own soup can. blueinannarbor Dec 2013 #122
I say let the racists that support him PAY the $100,000. Fools and their money, and all that. loudsue Dec 2013 #123
BwahahahahaHAAAAAA! FOX's Alan Colmes has picked up the story! johnfunk Dec 2013 #125
Oh man, this is awesome!!!!! darkangel218 Dec 2013 #224
Apparently it's been authenticated as original Major Nikon Dec 2013 #229
Actually, no one has bid on the item. Nitram Dec 2013 #127
Starting Price US $0.99 Dec-16-13 09:55:26 PST Brother Buzz Dec 2013 #133
I don't know what you're looking at - TBF Dec 2013 #134
Is it me or is "Member e***3 upping his own bid every two minutes? nolabear Dec 2013 #153
No - connecticut yankee Dec 2013 #171
Oh. Gotcha. It's been years since I've been on ebay! nolabear Dec 2013 #172
Current bid: US $99,966.00 --- Time left: 3d 22h Coyotl Dec 2013 #142
this guy is a 1/2 watt bulb heaven05 Dec 2013 #132
LOLOL hlthe2b Dec 2013 #135
It's harder to get off a copywrite charge...... DeSwiss Dec 2013 #136
This OP is going VIRAL on Twitter. We need a new hashtag for this discovery. #GeorgeZcopycat Coyotl Dec 2013 #138
#ZIMFRINGEMENT johnfunk Dec 2013 #143
This may need its own contest thread. Coyotl Dec 2013 #150
Bwahahaha! nolabear Dec 2013 #266
Im pretty sure i had something to do with that. It's my most retweeted ever! n/t ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #182
Now at 125 tweets, 11,000+ page views here a result of so much twittering. Coyotl Dec 2013 #231
The potential fine for using the image w/o a license is $150,000. herding cats Dec 2013 #139
bwaaahhhh good catch!! riverwalker Dec 2013 #216
Hell, W has a damned self portrait for sale on Ebay right now... Hubert Flottz Dec 2013 #141
LOL! n/t onestepforward Dec 2013 #146
This painting is now in the news = ABC Coyotl Dec 2013 #145
Uh oh, dinger130 Dec 2013 #147
This FRAUD is now being noticed on MSM = WESH Orlando Coyotl Dec 2013 #148
Do you pay income taxes on eBay sales? radhika Dec 2013 #151
You're supposed to pay taxes on anything you make a profit from on Ebay. herding cats Dec 2013 #154
It would be taxable income. Plus, if you buy something and later sell it for more than you paid, Hoyt Dec 2013 #156
I was soooo looking for that earlier. Xyzse Dec 2013 #152
Others are starting to notice it as well LTR Dec 2013 #157
When I first saw it gaspee Dec 2013 #158
rrneck posted about this yesterday... TeeYiYi Dec 2013 #159
Coming soon to EBay: First hand painted artwork by me, NYC_SKP. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #174
but did you ise latex house paint and sign it? uppityperson Dec 2013 #183
Someone gave housepaint because I'm so poor. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #188
Make sure you use the best dishwashing soap and pure H2O to clean those fine brushes. adirondacker Dec 2013 #202
Fresh in your head? Snorting housepaint because you can't afford spray paint? winter is coming Dec 2013 #294
LOL I never realized you are such a talented painter Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #184
Q: NYC_SKP, what is the medium; oil or acrylic?... TeeYiYi Dec 2013 #199
ROFLMAO! Priceless!!! Best laugh of the day, thanks!!! LOL!!!!!! Melinda Dec 2013 #255
this definitely needs to be on the DU Home page... Sancho Dec 2013 #161
Yes, it does need to be on the homepage!! darkangel218 Dec 2013 #232
He's a master of foreshortening Blue Owl Dec 2013 #165
Great sense of observation. Nika Dec 2013 #166
LOL ... this is delicious! 1000words Dec 2013 #167
#Zimmerfraud... Historic NY Dec 2013 #168
I still have one of those t-shirts! Maeve Dec 2013 #173
Thanks for this. Phlem Dec 2013 #178
dang Kali Dec 2013 #180
I knew I'd seen the flag image, cropped exactly the same, somewhere before Warpy Dec 2013 #187
Was the image trademarked or anything? It would be great to nail his sorry ass for something. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #190
Copyrighted. nt tblue37 Dec 2013 #243
Dammit! Thanks. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #252
Bull shit art. graywarrior Dec 2013 #203
It's just a flimsy, half-assed way to get some income under the table Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #269
And he keeps getting attention which is what he craves graywarrior Dec 2013 #270
437 inquiries and he only post 3. SummerSnow Dec 2013 #204
If you click on 'Continue Reading' you'll see a few more... SeattleVet Dec 2013 #260
If I record 'Let it Be' by the Beatles tdb63 Dec 2013 #207
Why do you hate America and the Pledge? Nevernose Dec 2013 #213
I can't use an entire song... Oilwellian Dec 2013 #218
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2013 #208
Who does he think he is, Thomas Kincaid? mindwalker_i Dec 2013 #210
At least you could almost call that art Major Nikon Dec 2013 #217
we should be encouraging his painting career Enrique Dec 2013 #215
Anybody know GZ's DU handle? eom Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #219
During the trial there were definitely some Zman supporters trolling here. Hoyt Dec 2013 #220
No, but you can Tweet him... KayJay503 Dec 2013 #265
!!! krispos42 Dec 2013 #221
k and r.....LOLOLOLOL nt MaeScott Dec 2013 #223
I hope he "sells/"rips off a bunch of Tea/Repukes!! Awesome!! hue Dec 2013 #225
Zimmerman used the same stock image on his web page riverwalker Dec 2013 #226
Turn that little prick in to McCormack Intellectual Property Law firm. Fuddnik Dec 2013 #227
Just contacted them. Thanks for the link! Th1onein Dec 2013 #254
And that page says "Content copyright 2013. . All rights reserved." arcane1 Dec 2013 #236
Good catch. And I notice that the 'content' of that site was copyrighted! sinkingfeeling Dec 2013 #274
A fool & his.... Caretha Dec 2013 #246
Come on, you know that its a masterpiece dem in texas Dec 2013 #247
Auction current bid now at $110,100.00. Someone's not reading DU - LOL. Coyotl Dec 2013 #248
"artwork" tk2kewl Dec 2013 #249
OMG, zimmy reported my question to him and ebay sent me a warning. HAhahahahahaa. Asshole zimmy uppityperson Dec 2013 #250
If that was your full comment I don't see how it violates their rules Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #253
That was my full comment. I don't see it either. It isn't spam as I sent it once, not any of uppityperson Dec 2013 #256
Sounds like they are protecting Zimmerman from criticism Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #257
The eBay page says " 612 Inquiries" Coyotl Dec 2013 #259
OMG, he's a job creator! winter is coming Dec 2013 #295
he probably also called 9-1-1 Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #262
I received one of those as well Oilwellian Dec 2013 #279
The artist now wishs to be known as Wash. state Desk Jet Dec 2013 #251
Earl G! How observant, a regular Doyle creation! You need a Duzy for lonestarnot Dec 2013 #267
Check this VIDEO: Coyotl Dec 2013 #268
The comments on Ebay are nauseating. WCLinolVir Dec 2013 #271
lol thanks for the post. ctsnowman Dec 2013 #272
Oh I get it -- "One Nation" is under "God." How cute. Sparkly Dec 2013 #273
He obviously thinks he's clever. TBF Dec 2013 #278
VIDEO: CNN Art Critic Calls Zimmerman Painting ‘Psychotic,’ Compares Him with Manson and Gacy Coyotl Dec 2013 #276
That is not The Onion, is it? Too good. uppityperson Dec 2013 #280
I watched it live this morning on CNN csziggy Dec 2013 #296
The art critic seemed to nail it Wash. state Desk Jet Dec 2013 #281
Juanita Jean had some fun with this story Gothmog Dec 2013 #282
Small world...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #283
So where are Zimmerman's cheerleaders in all of this? Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #284
This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Dec 2013 #287
HA! Kurovski Dec 2013 #290
kick nt Electric Monk Dec 2013 #297
Price dropped $10,000. Lots of retractions! How many more will retract? Coyotl Dec 2013 #298
oh well hifijohn Dec 2013 #299
Winning bid: US $100,099.99 Coyotl Dec 2013 #300
kicked nt arely staircase Jan 2014 #301

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
211. As a former Power Seller
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:33 PM
Dec 2013

I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatched on that auction.

Those low feedback bidders? That's GZ, or his buddies, driving up the bidding with dummy accounts.

It might sell for over $100k, but that doesn't mean that he will get the money.

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
264. What would be funny
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 01:45 AM
Dec 2013

Is if eBay charges him a percentage of the final price AND forces him to pay that fee, regardless of who "wins" the auction or whether or not GZ actually got paid.

Oh, and then bans him from eBay due to his false bids. That's important, too.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
289. There appears to be several "bad eggs"
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:55 PM
Dec 2013

c***2( 1304) Retracted: US $99,666.00
Bid: Dec-16-13 18:22:33 PST
Retracted: Dec-16-13 18:59:21 PST

r***r( 180) Cancelled: US $98,000.00
Bid: Dec-18-13 13:52:12 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 14:13:20 PST

9***9( 94) Retracted: US $97,800.00
Bid: Dec-18-13 13:28:34 PST
Retracted: Dec-18-13 13:31:28 PST

_***d( 1781) Cancelled: US $96,200.00
Bid: Dec-18-13 14:44:20 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 15:10:07 PST

c***t( 256) Cancelled: US $97,600.00
Bid: Dec-18-13 12:43:12 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 13:48:41 PST

t***r( 239) Not a registered user Cancelled: US $95,000.00
Bid: Dec-16-13 18:20:44 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 15:40:58 PST

e***3( 6 ) Cancelled: US $97,400.00
Bid: Dec-16-13 18:22:22 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 13:59:57 PST

1***1( 380) Cancelled: US $99,866.00
Bid: Dec-16-13 18:31:06 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 12:23:18 PST

k***3( 1241) Cancelled: US $98,200.00
Bid: Dec-18-13 14:09:25 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 14:39:16 PST

m***p( 8 ) Not a registered user Cancelled: US $110,000.00
Bid: Dec-17-13 14:44:03 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 10:38:34 PST

3***e( 90) Cancelled: US $98,600.01
Bid: Dec-18-13 14:12:45 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 14:31:11 PST

c***o( 314) Retracted: US $96,400.00
Bid: Dec-18-13 15:03:53 PST
Retracted: Dec-18-13 15:18:49 PST

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
60. Not only are the images copied...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:07 PM
Dec 2013

.... but y'know Jasper Johns did flags and stenciled letters (in a much more interesting way) back in the '50's.

But I suppose ol' Quick Draw Georgie hasn't a clue who Jasper Johns is.

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
9. Be fair!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:10 PM
Dec 2013

After all, he did provide us with his original words of wisdom and inspiration!

Poetic gold !

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
107. There's a link where you can ask a question of the seller
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:03 PM
Dec 2013

I wonder if he's monitoring those? It might be fun to send a link to this thread

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
12. Bid retracted!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:18 PM
Dec 2013

Member c***2 Retracted: US $99,666.00
Bid: Dec-16-13 18:22:33 PST
Retracted: Dec-16-13 18:59:21 PST

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
113. Not sure "living" would be a worry for Inmate George
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:17 PM
Dec 2013

Dude who shot a black kid in cold blood, in a place full of black men...how long would he last?

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
126. They'd have him in Punk City....
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:36 PM
Dec 2013

AKA: PC

AKA: Protective Custody.

He would NEVER get tossed into General Population.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
195. Oh, you never know...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:39 PM
Dec 2013

If they sent him to a lockup with a lot of African-American or Hispanic guards...

"I told you to put him in PC, he somehow got put in General, and he fell down a flight of stairs thirty-eight times last night."

'You know, I THOUGHT there were a hell of a lot of people in PC. He's okay, isn't he?'

"He has a hundred and twenty broken bones."

'Oh, then he'll be fine.'

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
13. Bidders are looking for a piece of george zimmerman, a fraud, crook, worthless soul.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:19 PM
Dec 2013

They get it with this paint by the numbers piece of junk. He needs to sell kisses on the rear for $20.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
14. I smelled a big fat rat when I first saw the "original Zimmy masterpiece".
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:20 PM
Dec 2013

Just couldn't quite put my finger on it.

K&R.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
15. Here's the substance of my chat with Getty Images about the matter:
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:21 PM
Dec 2013
Welcome! A representative will be with you shortly. For your security, do not give out your credit card number or other sensitive personal data during a Live Chat session.

You are now chatting with Peter.

Peter: Hello! How can I help you today?

NYC_SKP: George Zimmerman is selling a painting based on a protected work from your site. Here is the sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111239922810

And here is the protected work you represent and offer for use: http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/photo/american-flag-stars-and-stripes-royalty-free-image/171580891

NYC_SKP: I think it may be a violation of copyright.

NYC_SKP: More about that here:

NYC_SKP: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024188920

Peter: yikes - we'll take a look

Peter: thanks for sending

NYC_SKP: Thanks very much, and have a good day!




SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
170. The bidders won't care.. They love Zimmy...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:30 PM
Dec 2013

$100,000? Seriously? And if you read the comments they are along the lines of "We love you, and we stand behind you"..

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
179. He isn't posting all the questions and I doubt many of those bidders are real.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:07 PM
Dec 2013

I sent him a couple questions, ranging from mocking to very polite and he hasn't put them up for viewing. Also, if you click on a bidder, most of them that is all they have bid on, leading me to suspect either zimmy is bidding via another account hoping to drive up the price, or people are making false accounts to bid with and never pay. Unfortunately, Hugh Moran (my fake account) can not bid unless he enters a credit card number or I would be messing with it also.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
189. Yeah I went back and looked at the "Bid list"
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:27 PM
Dec 2013

there are 3 names who keep raising the bid against themselves.. This is a scam. You have to wonder about these right wingers who do nothing but bitch about "lazy takers" while looking for a free ride.. Reminds me of that idiot who did the ACORN video. James something or other, spends his days whining about liberal freeloaders while running a website begging for money from conservatives to make his "movies"...

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
200. If zimmy is bidding to drive the price up
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:52 PM
Dec 2013

And if the auction is not determined to be fraudulent, will eBay go after zimmy for their fees? I sure hope so!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
25. Did you tell them that Jerry the Tapir could have done a more "original" artwork than Z?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:29 PM
Dec 2013

And with no hands, ma.


aspicer

(2 posts)
291. Is it huge really?
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:51 PM
Dec 2013

Is it huge really? Like Picaso kind of huge? The site that found out about it paid like $20 for the image and prints it all over coffee cups and tee shirts to give away to its donators. I don't know what George did ... Nor does anyone on here really ... Did he print it out and paint over it? Did he hand paint it by hand and eye. Did he print out just the outline or grey scale of it and paint over that? Then he added some kind of stenciled lettering.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
292. Yes, it's huge. Unless he did that with Getty Images' permission, they could sue his ass.
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 11:30 PM
Dec 2013

A lot of people will send a cease-and-desist letter before moving to sue, but it's not required.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
37. Great work, NYC_SKP!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:41 PM
Dec 2013

George isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, is he?

I wonder if it will make it to the news, just so people are careful before they buy any 'original' works from him?

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
230. Also send it to Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and Bill Mahr. they would do a real number on him.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:18 PM
Dec 2013

Oh, and Lawrence O'Donnell and Ed Schultz.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
155. Jon Stewart is going to have a field day with this story.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:36 PM
Dec 2013

Can't wait for all the pundits and comedians to crown his fraudulence.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
76. Good Going!!!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:23 PM
Dec 2013

Not doubt a violation. He took the image, had it solarized which allowed him to translated into the monochromatic blue tones. He may even have had the image copied onto canvas and painted over the copy. Hope this goes viral.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
169. I believe he's altered the image enough for it to be considered "original."
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:28 PM
Dec 2013

Exposing this guy as a hack is a just reward, though.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
209. Nope, he hasn't.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:29 PM
Dec 2013

You'd be surprised some of the copyright suits that have been filed and won, on images that are much, much less alike than his. He is in violation of the copyright on this, no doubt about it.

mellymai

(3 posts)
176. Ebay reps are always "looking into" something or other.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:54 PM
Dec 2013

Problem is, they never DO anything.

I went a step beyond live chat and contacted a friend who used to work in the eBay security offices in Utah, to let them know about a flagrant shill bidder. It was someone I knew personally, so it wasn't a suspicion - I knew exactly which accounts were being used to shill bid. If you looked at those accounts, it would show 100% activity with this one seller only, in categories ranging from Barbie dolls to currency to records, you name it, and that 100% specific to one seller activity went back for years on each shill account. Even at that personal versus call-center-in-outer-Bangalore level, their interests lay solely in the direction of making more money off of that seller having auctions (and if he shill bid them up, eBay made even more money). Ebay has recently cloaked the handles of bidders (look at the bid history on this auction and you'll see), and eliminated the click-on-the-bidder option, to make it even more impossible to detect/report shill bidders. Ebay, in short, simply doesn't care. And they're constantly tweaking their site so they can employ the zero punishment policies that keep lining their pockets, while allowing them to eliminate departments that exist only in name, like "security".

This auction is no exception, as all eBay cares about is getting their cut of whatever ludicrous sum this thing ends up fetching.

The only way eBay would pretend to care otherwise would be if the media embarrassed them enough. But don't waste your time thinking eBay's "customer service" or even "security department" gives a chit.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
177. The letter isn't to EBay, it was to Getty, who represent copyright holders.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:58 PM
Dec 2013

If people steal content, they lose money.

I think they're interested.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
239. I wonder if Getty could sue ebay as well for covering up the fraud?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:39 PM
Dec 2013

They are profiting from fraud, after all.

aspicer

(2 posts)
286. Royalty Free
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:23 PM
Dec 2013

Doesn't it say Royalty Free for that image? What am I missing?

Release information: No release, but this image does not require a release. This image is available for commercial use.

Maybe I don't totally understand this. There is also royalty free pricing for different sizes of the image. Maybe he paid for an image like you guys did?

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
288. I think you are confused between copyright and royalty free. What do you think about GZ?
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:52 PM
Dec 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royalty-free
Photography and Illustrations[edit]

In photography and the illustration industry, it refers to a copyright license where the user has the right to use the picture without many restrictions based on one-time payment to the licensor. The user can therefore use the image in several projects without having to purchase any additional licenses. RF licenses can not be given on an exclusive basis. In stock photography, RF is one of the common licenses sometimes contrasted with Rights Managed licenses and often employed in subscription-based or microstock photography business models.[1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright
Copyright is a legal concept, enacted by most governments, that grants the creator of an original work exclusive rights to its use and distribution, usually for a limited time, with the intention of enabling the creator of intellectual wealth (e.g. the photographer of a photograph or the author of a book) to receive compensation for their work and be able to financially support themselves.

Copyright is a form of intellectual property (as patents, trademarks and trade secrets are), applicable to any expressible form of an idea or information that is substantive and discrete.[1] It is often shared, then percentage holders are commonly called rightsholders: legally, contractually and in associated "rights" business functions.[citation needed] Generally rightsholders have "the right to copy", but also the right to be credited for the work, to determine who may adapt the work to other forms, who may perform the work, who may financially benefit from it, and other related rights.

Copyright initially was conceived as a way for government to restrict printing; the contemporary intent of copyright is to promote the creation of new works by giving authors control of and profit from them. Copyrights are said to be territorial, which means that they do not extend beyond the territory of a specific state unless that state is a party to an international agreement. Today, however, this is less relevant since most countries are parties to at least one such agreement. While many aspects of national copyright laws have been standardized through international copyright agreements, copyright laws of most countries have some unique features.[2] Typically, the duration of copyright is the whole life of the creator plus fifty to a hundred years from the creator's death, or a finite period for anonymous or corporate creations. Some jurisdictions have required formalities to establishing copyright, but most recognize copyright in any completed work, without formal registration. Generally, copyright is enforced as a civil matter, though some jurisdictions do apply criminal sanctions.

Most jurisdictions recognize copyright limitations, allowing "fair" exceptions to the creator's exclusivity of copyright, and giving users certain rights. The development of digital media and computer network technologies have prompted reinterpretation of these exceptions, introduced new difficulties in enforcing copyright, and inspired additional challenges to copyright law's philosophic basis. Simultaneously, businesses with great economic dependence upon copyright have advocated the extension and expansion of their intellectual property rights, and sought additional legal and technological enforcement.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
35. He's now posted a picture of himself posing with it in his sale listing.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:41 PM
Dec 2013

Last edited Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:49 PM - Edit history (2)

Seems quite proud of his hand painted artwork.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Zimmerman-original-painting-/111239922810?pt=Art_Paintings&hash=item19e66a847a

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

309 Inquiries.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
43. Did you read the questions and comments on Ebay?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:51 PM
Dec 2013

he is acting as if he actually painted this...lol this guy is a scam artist. No job so he is scamming people, and what makes him think its even worth that kind of money. But his minions no matter what will buy it

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
67. ...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:13 PM
Dec 2013


"I know its not the fanciest, but it is what we had and I needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible. Your friend, GZ @therealGeorgeZ"

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
75. He needed to put "these visions" onto the blank canvas?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:23 PM
Dec 2013

Like he's a real artist with "visions." What a blithering idiot.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
105. I have visions, too.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:58 PM
Dec 2013

My vision of Georgie has him in a prison. And, quite frankly? I think that vision is going to prove to be reality sooner, if not later.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
198. House paint. What a moran
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:48 PM
Dec 2013

I sent a question asking if it was paint-by-numbers, but he didn't respond or post it.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
212. You've got to wonder, with all the questions letting him know the jig
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:41 PM
Dec 2013

is up, why he'd leave it up without at least altering the description. He's either really, really sure he's invincible and nothing will come of this, or he's just completely stupid.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
240. Picasso used house paint
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:42 PM
Dec 2013

In this case, I think the "painting" is really inkjet on canvas. A legitimate way to sell art to be sure, but especially appropriate when your "art" is a downloaded stock photo you turned blue and typed words on.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
92. If You Click
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:36 PM
Dec 2013

On the bid history numbers on that page, when it shows the bids, EB asks what you think and you can comment there.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
104. Excellent!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:58 PM
Dec 2013

I did ask him a question, but he won't answer me. "How much for two day shipping to Canada ... and will I get into trouble with customs because it's a stolen image?"

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
29. Just reported him to Ebay as well
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:34 PM
Dec 2013

You can't sell copyrighted material there. Tee hee. Thanks, I needed this laugh.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
44. I just sent him a question
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:52 PM
Dec 2013

I said something like: "Hi George, I doubt Manuela Krause who is selling this image on Getty Images, would appreciate you stealing her work and calling it your own. Tell us George, what is it like being a pathological liar?"

I hope it shows up on the Ebay page like this one did:

What is the medium; oil or acrylic? Thanks Dec-17-13
A: Thanks for your question, The paint was donated to me by a great friend (J.S.), as far as I know it is regular household latex paint. I know its not the fanciest, but it is what we had and I needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible. Your friend, GZ @therealGeorgeZ


SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
201. He wont answer for fear of exposure..
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:52 PM
Dec 2013

but you do know that your question will anger him and he will get pulled over by the police.
lol

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
94. I just asked what percentage of the sale gts sent to Getty and how much he gets to keep
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:42 PM
Dec 2013

i bet he won't answr. again

retsue

(1 post)
194. Zimmerman's faux painting
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:38 PM
Dec 2013

I reported him to Ebay. I know that I am not allowed to use a photo if it has a copyright so shouldn't this be against the law and Ebay rules?

BodieTown

(147 posts)
46. Appears To Be Plagiarism
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:55 PM
Dec 2013

Brought the graphics into two layers in Photoshop, changed the opacity on the GZ "original", and it appears to be nothing more than a manipulated copy.

His image distorts and skews elements of the original. However, the nuances of the curves, furls, and objects (stars, stripes) are way too similar to be coincidental.

I'm speechless that this con man has admirers, supporters, and well-wishers. It's sick.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
54. He's claiming to have used latex paint on canvas (see questions on ebay page)
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:00 PM
Dec 2013

How is it possible to transfer the image to canvas?

hunter

(38,311 posts)
72. Multiple ways of doing it... even "paint by numbers" software.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:17 PM
Dec 2013

But I'm betting even that is too sophisticated for him.

He probably just went to Wal-Mart and had the completed "artwork" printed on canvas.

http://photos.walmart.com/walmart/storepage/storePageId=Wall+Art

FarPoint

(12,344 posts)
131. Immediately when I say this"painting"....
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:48 PM
Dec 2013

I felt it was similar to a paint by numbers. Essentially, not an authentic original project....now my suspicious are confirmed.

BodieTown

(147 posts)
73. If It Were Me...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:21 PM
Dec 2013

...I would manipulate the original in Photoshop to create the final blobby painted effect, to use as the pattern. I'd distort and skew some of the elements, to change it from "exact copy" to "original" (to the untrained eye).

There are a number of ways to project an image of the "original" onto a wall/canvas (projector, "lightbox" mentioned by somebody else here, 35mm slide and projector). You would then just paint away...and take great care NOT to stay within the exact lines of the projected image.

I'm no expert, but I've been working with graphics for 14 years; I could easily modify a photo to look like GZ's "original".

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
88. As hunter said above...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:33 PM
Dec 2013

Walmart can also transfer it to canvas. I would imagine that's the route he's taken. Thanks for responding.

BodieTown

(147 posts)
96. Doubtful
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:48 PM
Dec 2013

Those photo transfers-to-canvas do not use latex paint. If he painted over said transfer, that would be a huge and amateurish mistake for a professional con man.

I'm betting he used a projection of some kind.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
114. He's no professional conman.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:18 PM
Dec 2013

In this case, the unbelievably huge and amateurish mistake he's made is stealing the image in the first place. It was completely unnecessary. He could have taken a cheapo digital camera out and taken a bunch of pictures of flags flapping in the wind until he got a picture similar to that one. Even with no photography skills, if you take enough pictures you'll get a good one from time to time, just by sheer chance. Then it would be his own and he could modify it any way he wished and sell it legitimately. He stole the picture because he was too lazy to go out and get one of his own.

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
160. Using Latex housepaint donated to him by a "friend", since his memory couldn't hold on to the vision
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:04 PM
Dec 2013

long enough to go to an art supply shop and pick up some oils or acrylics. (but he had a canvass, just no paint).

Bizarre

"Q: What is the medium; oil or acrylic? Thanks Dec-17-13
A: Thanks for your question, The paint was donated to me by a great friend (J.S.), as far as I know it is regular household latex paint. I know its not the fanciest, but it is what we had and I needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible. Your friend, GZ @therealGeorgeZ "

hunter

(38,311 posts)
118. "Professional" con man?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:20 PM
Dec 2013

His fan club is dimmer than he is, that's all.

I'm thinking this is likely to be some kind of half-witted publicity or money-laundering scheme.

"Where'd you get the money George?"

"Ummmm... Duhs... I sold a painting on eBay. See?"

Next he'll be selling toasters on ebay, posting an image of his naked self reflected in them...

Or a sex tape will be "found."

The world is more depraved than I thought if this murdering fool ever ends up with a reality television show.

He ought to be in prison.

Then again, so should George W. Bush.


BodieTown

(147 posts)
124. I Can't...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:30 PM
Dec 2013

...quit George, especially this thread.

It's unbelievable.

Somebody rightly pointed out his choice of lettering, a serif font.

A SERIF FONT! GZ is a human typewriter.

It's a royalty-free photo he used, so he can do with it what he wishes...but he can't claim ownership. I imagine he worded his ebay message just well enough to skirt the copyright issue. Probably sought an attorney's advice.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
137. Where to begin.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:01 PM
Dec 2013

They get away with a lot worse around here. State Attorney's office and even the FBI just let it happen and do nothing. So the con jobs continue because everyone knows that no one is coming after them.

But it looks like George got sloppy by going national.

EC

(12,287 posts)
258. You're right
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:45 AM
Dec 2013

he likely hid all the money he got from that old "defense fund" and put it in a foreign bank. He told the court he was broke and he hasn't paid his lawyers.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
241. If it was you...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:45 PM
Dec 2013

you'd have taken your phone to the nearest flagpole and snapped your own picture of a flag, instead of starting with a stock image. You know you would have.

JackHughes

(166 posts)
111. Paint Jet
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:16 PM
Dec 2013

Any modern image/photo lab can use a paint jet printer from a digital file to print onto canvas. There's no way an amateur can paint text that well.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
49. Uhhhh...copyright? What's a copyright?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:57 PM
Dec 2013

I don't need no stink'n copyright ok...I gots me a gun instead!

toxicopoulus

(41 posts)
55. Another lurker with some art skills here
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:03 PM
Dec 2013

I contacted Zimmerman directly via ebay and posed this question

Did you use a light box and stencils to transfer the plagiarized image and lettering onto canvas.

Thanks, I'm just curious about your process.


We'll see if it makes it to the auction page.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
56. "Conservative" idiots will still line up to buy it
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:03 PM
Dec 2013

Just like they bought eight dollar bottles of "W" Ketchup to boycott Heinz and Rush Limpballs Iced Tea. They are the biggest marks going.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
108. The bidding is stalled with four days to go. I expect the retractions to start pouring in.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:05 PM
Dec 2013

And, if the buyer does not know about the plagiarism before the end of the auction, expect a law suit afterwards.

mellymai

(3 posts)
185. I'm not sure the right wing nut who buys this will care about originality
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:18 PM
Dec 2013

Or have a clue what "art" even is. The stuff hanging on their walls already is probably about as linear and unsubtle as it gets. And they're buying infamy, anyway. GZ could bronze one of his turds and they'd snap it up.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
71. I KNEW IT! You know, he can get sued for that?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:16 PM
Dec 2013

Last night, when I saw the post about him selling a painting, the first thing I did was go through Google images, to find the painting he copied it from. Couldn't find it, but you did!

I'm an artist, in my spare time, and I knew that asswad couldn't come up with a painting resembling reality without a modicum of time to learn how to paint. So, he's a plagiarist, besides being a murderer. Figures.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
79. That little tidbit should be passed on to some enterprising news person
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:25 PM
Dec 2013

to ostensibly do investigative reporting.

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
81. I'm having a very hard time believing ...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:26 PM
Dec 2013

... that the lettering here was hand painted, and I say this as someone who has some experience hand painting lettering.

BodieTown

(147 posts)
120. Yes, and...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:24 PM
Dec 2013

...painting or writing words in the fashion of an old typewriter, complete with serif font, would be the quite natural option for a beginner painter.

This makes my head hurt.

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
164. I guess my point here is that ...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:11 PM
Dec 2013

... it's likely that, not only is he lying about it being his "original" work - he doesn't even know what it is he's selling (i.e. it's not a painting - it's a digital print on canvas). Either he knows full well what this canvas is (and he's lying), or the person who made it for him is conning him (and he's a fool).

WCLinolVir

(951 posts)
277. He can barely paint his name.
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 11:25 AM
Dec 2013

The wrinkles in the printed canvas that is glued to a pre-stretched canvas tell a story.
He does not know how to stretch canvas.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
86. So what's the best way to tint my DU T-shirt design blue to make it a GZ original?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:31 PM
Dec 2013

I think I can fudge the lettering myself.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
87. 'Liberty and justice for all'!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:32 PM
Dec 2013

Unbelievable the sheer gall of someone who got away with murder to use those words to profit from.

It really is disgusting. I hope this story makes it to the news media although the morons who actually support him, probably won't care, sadly. If they can condone murder they won't be too worried about theft.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
90. If this is true a it is illegal. You cannot take an image owned by another, alter it and
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:34 PM
Dec 2013

make money from it.

tdb63

(73 posts)
91. EBay and PayPal will make over $3000 and won't remove it
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:36 PM
Dec 2013

Using an EBay PayPal calculator they stand to make over $3000 if it only sells for $100,000. They wont remove it for that profit.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
162. They've removed counterfeit vintage Les Paul guitars selling for MORE than $100,000...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:08 PM
Dec 2013

They'll remove this just as well.

And yes, a vintage (1950s) Les Paul can fetch more than $100,000.

jfkraus

(387 posts)
95. That's a "canvas transfer" of an electronic image.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:43 PM
Dec 2013

If you look close, there are no brush-strokes. You can have this done at Costco. What a douche.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
112. That's Courier Bold font.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:16 PM
Dec 2013
http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/

The font generator is probably identifiable given the way it is "painted" over.

Mouse over the image on eBay and check it out magnified.
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
100. Didn't Shepard Fairey get in a lot of trouble for doing the same thing?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:54 PM
Dec 2013

Using a copyright image? Lets hope this fucker has to pay.

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
110. Artwork by coward child killer
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:08 PM
Dec 2013

Q: Just wanted to tell you we all love you and stand behind you. You have so many people on your side I hope you know that!
A: Thank you so much for the words of kindness and support. I do know how many great Americans are still here, I run into at least 3-5 a day that go out of their way to tell me the same. Your Friend, GZ @therealGeorgeZ

Sickening.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
228. Hey, you stole my avatar (that I borrowed from somewhere)!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:18 PM
Dec 2013

The KRovers, Kochie's and their spawn are using this means as a way to channel untaxed $s to a rw non-Anglo "buddy". (Untaxed because these AH don't pay anything on their capital gains, offshore holdings, inter-company "transfers".)

Perhaps that's exactly the right response: Sling in the faint praise, the back-of-the-hand pat, the dubble-auntraunde ("George, you are so clever at getting this original artwork to look just like the one you copied.&quot Maybe he'll fb-befriend us.

KayJay503

(14 posts)
263. Get a load of this message to @therealGeorgeZ
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 01:33 AM
Dec 2013

"James Worley © ?@JamesWorley 7h George, Your painting is on Yahoo Top Stories! http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-39-painting-bids-reach-100-000-132734585--abc-news-topstories.html … @RZimmermanJr @therealgeorgez"

Yup, @therealgeorgez has him holding that "painting" front and center on his avatar pic. Obviously his brother Robert is part of the scam. I'll bet Yahoo and ABC don't say anything when eBay withdraws the auction and Getty files a lawsuit.

blueinannarbor

(7 posts)
122. At least Andy Warhol panted his own soup can.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:28 PM
Dec 2013

Zimmerman's artwork lends new meaning to minimalism. Zimmerman's talent is minimal (to non-existent); his artistic vision is minimal (to non-existent); the amount of thought and effort he put into his 'creation' is minimal (to non-existent). He even aped the words he includes in the work. About the only thing even remotely clever about it is how he positioned the word "God" so that he could imply under. What I have to wonder is if he didn't cut off the last portion of his creation which clearly needed to read "including Trayvon Martin".

Earl, I really miss the 10 ten list. Please bring it back.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
123. I say let the racists that support him PAY the $100,000. Fools and their money, and all that.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:29 PM
Dec 2013

Especially his supporters....they should all be parted with their money.

johnfunk

(6,113 posts)
125. BwahahahahaHAAAAAA! FOX's Alan Colmes has picked up the story!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:32 PM
Dec 2013
This is rich:
Ruh-roh! I wonder if George Zimmerman is familiar with U.S. copyright law. Earl G at Democratic Underground has made an interesting discovery… I wonder if anyone has alerted eBay that Zimmy is peddling a great big copyright-infringing bogus “original” work of art?

Stay tuned… this could get really interesting really fast.

I love the smell of snark in the morning -- er, early afternoon for East Coasters…

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
127. Actually, no one has bid on the item.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:40 PM
Dec 2013

The starting price is listed as $999.00, and with 10 hours left there are no bids.

TBF

(32,049 posts)
134. I don't know what you're looking at -
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:52 PM
Dec 2013

but this has a huge number of bids. The top bid is from last night at: US $99,966.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Zimmerman-original-painting-/111239922810

Item info

Item Title: George Zimmerman original painting
Reserve met
Current bid: US $99,966.00
Shipping: US $40.00 -- Expedited Shipping (UPS 2nd Day Air).
Item number: 111239922810

Bid history

Bidders: 26Bids: 98Time left: 3 days 23 hours 5 minsDuration: 5 days
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Starting Price US $0.99
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If two people bid the same amount, the first bid has priority.

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Bid: Dec-16-13 18:22:33 PST
Retracted: Dec-16-13 18:59:21 PST

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
142. Current bid: US $99,966.00 --- Time left: 3d 22h
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:05 PM
Dec 2013

George Zimmerman original painting

Time left:
3d 22h

Current bid:
US $99,966.00

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
136. It's harder to get off a copywrite charge......
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:59 PM
Dec 2013

...than a gun charge.

- Any fool knows that!

K&R

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
138. This OP is going VIRAL on Twitter. We need a new hashtag for this discovery. #GeorgeZcopycat
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:01 PM
Dec 2013

Last edited Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:40 PM - Edit history (1)

#GeorgeVanFraud perhaps? Maybe #GeorgeZcopycat is better, to not malign the great Vincent? Ideas anyone?

Tantalizing ?@Tantalizinyou 1m
"@CallsForJustice: George Zimmerman's ORIGINAL PAINT BY PHOTOSHOP on @eBay ! #Zimmerman

StormyBlue ?@StormyBluePup 55m
Zimmerman stealing his "art" from Democratic Underground using Photoshop. You'd think he's steal from Republicans

Path2Enlightenment ?@Path2Enlighten 2h
LOL - George Zimmerman's #ebay "artwork" uses a photoshopped stolen image from Getty images: http://demu.gr/10024188920


https://twitter.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F10024188920&f=realtime

On edit, thanks for the suggestions:

Hashtag Contest: George Zimmerman, would-be painter, plagiarist. Help create a good hashtag please.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024189981

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
139. The potential fine for using the image w/o a license is $150,000.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:03 PM
Dec 2013
Getty Images reserves the right to pursue unauthorized users of this image or clip. If you violate our intellectual property you may be liable for: actual damages, loss of income, and profits you derive from the use of this image or clip, and, where appropriate, the costs of collection and/or statutory damages up to $150,000 (USD).


If he did this art rendering w/o first purchasing a license he'll need at least that much just to break even!

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
141. Hell, W has a damned self portrait for sale on Ebay right now...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:04 PM
Dec 2013

Started out at a whopping 5.99 bills, but no takers so far.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Handmade-oil-painting-on-canvas-Monkey-20x24-inch-no-framed-/121236310571

I think Badnews Barbie's Christmas book is fetching more dough than W paintings.

dinger130

(199 posts)
147. Uh oh,
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:13 PM
Dec 2013

does this mean that he won't have the money to buy his girlfriend a new glass table that he destroyed?

radhika

(1,008 posts)
151. Do you pay income taxes on eBay sales?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:28 PM
Dec 2013

I think when you auction stuff you already own it's not considered income. What about this?

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
154. You're supposed to pay taxes on anything you make a profit from on Ebay.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:34 PM
Dec 2013

If you're making a profitable income it should be reported to the IRS as such on your next tax return.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
156. It would be taxable income. Plus, if you buy something and later sell it for more than you paid,
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:37 PM
Dec 2013

you'd technically owe income tax (maybe have some deductible expenses related to production costs, storing it, etc.). But, few folks pay if they make a few bucks off a trinket or two, and it's not an IRS target/priority.

But here, seems to me Zman is pretty much acting as a self-employed "artist" (albeit a worthless POS "artist" catering to the white wing) and would not only owe income tax, but likely FICA.

LTR

(13,227 posts)
157. Others are starting to notice it as well
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:41 PM
Dec 2013

A few people on Gawker found the image on various sites last night.

http://gawker.com/the-font-doesnt-even-follow-the-curve-of-the-flag-but-1484479310

And so far, the media hasn't realized this fraud.

gaspee

(3,231 posts)
158. When I first saw it
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:44 PM
Dec 2013

Posted last night - my immediate first thought was that it was not a painting, but a photoshop - the person who spends money on it deserves to be taken.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
174. Coming soon to EBay: First hand painted artwork by me, NYC_SKP.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:50 PM
Dec 2013
First hand painted artwork by me, NYC_SKP. Everyone has been asking what I have been doing with myself. I found a creative, way to express myself, my emotions and the symbols that represent my experiences. My art work allows me to reflect, providing a therapeutic outlet and allows me to remain indoors I hope you enjoy owning this piece as much as I enjoyed creating it. Your friend, NYC_SKP.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
188. Someone gave housepaint because I'm so poor.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:26 PM
Dec 2013

And I had to get it on the blank canvas while it was fresh in my head.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
184. LOL I never realized you are such a talented painter
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:18 PM
Dec 2013

Your work is very original, never seen anything like it before.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
199. Q: NYC_SKP, what is the medium; oil or acrylic?...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:48 PM
Dec 2013

A: It's regular old household latex gloves and used condoms, melted down and applied with a blow torch. I know its not the fanciest, but my materials were just laying around, if you know what I mean, and I needed to get rid of, er, put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible while they were still pliable. Your friend, NYC_SKP @therealNewYorkCitySkip

Awesome work, NYC_SKP! I've always said, you're so creative! I've never seen anything like that. What is your muse? How do you just not burst with all of that creativity jumping out onto your canvas?...It fairly creates itself I'll bet... I know the real deal when I see it, and I see it in you. I fancy myself to be a patron of the arts. I'll give you $100,000 right now for that signed original!

TYY

Maeve

(42,281 posts)
173. I still have one of those t-shirts!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:48 PM
Dec 2013

anyone want to give me $100,000 for it?

Didn't think so. I hang with a smarter crowd than Georgie does.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
178. Thanks for this.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:01 PM
Dec 2013

I was checking it out another thread and totally thought it was traced over then painted. What can I say, I've been a paid media artist for 15 years. Can't escape the eye.

I hope the bidders lose a lot of money over this.



-p

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
187. I knew I'd seen the flag image, cropped exactly the same, somewhere before
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:24 PM
Dec 2013

It's really hilarious that it's been used on a DU product! Great catch!

While I don't find it sad that a megalomaniac would post a bad Photoshop as original artwork on Ebay, I do weep that there is someone with $100,000 to waste on its purchase.

I guess money really is how untalented people keep score.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
269. It's just a flimsy, half-assed way to get some income under the table
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:27 AM
Dec 2013

I'm pretty sure the "bidders" are all close friends...

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
270. And he keeps getting attention which is what he craves
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:37 AM
Dec 2013

Meanwhile, some amazing artists don't get diddly squat. He's like a god damn cancerous tumor.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
260. If you click on 'Continue Reading' you'll see a few more...
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 01:23 AM
Dec 2013

including *this* gem!

--------------
Q: We all think a lot of you Zimm and hope the best for you!I may bid on your painting at the last min.How will you ship the picture,can it be picked up local?I would be driving from Arkansas

A: The price it is at now has well exceeded my $.99 minimum; therefore, whoever wins within the Continental United States, will receive this painting delivered by me personally. Your friend,
--------------

Wow, personal delivery (as long as he's allowed to enter that state, I guess)

tdb63

(73 posts)
207. If I record 'Let it Be' by the Beatles
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:23 PM
Dec 2013

while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance over it..is it my work?

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
210. Who does he think he is, Thomas Kincaid?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:30 PM
Dec 2013

Didn't Kincaid take already-done paintings and add some stupid mark, then call them original?

And the market seems pretty similar too.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
220. During the trial there were definitely some Zman supporters trolling here.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:17 PM
Dec 2013

The ones I found disgusting would say, "I think Mr. Zimmerman is an awful person, but he had no choice but to shoot big bad Trayvon Martin". They totally ignored his choice to grab his gun, stalk an unarmed teenager, bully him, then shoot him center mass as he had trained to do, then told the police his lies (again as trained to do).

KayJay503

(14 posts)
265. No, but you can Tweet him...
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 01:55 AM
Dec 2013

@therealGeorgeZ

Or better yet, Tweet the brains in the family, his scheming brother Robert Jr. @RZimmermanJr

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
226. Zimmerman used the same stock image on his web page
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:51 PM
Dec 2013

begging for money. I bet source for that image was the source for his "painting". I there any way to tell where he got the image?

http://wayback.archive.org/web/20120409213544/http:/www.therealgeorgezimmerman.com/

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
227. Turn that little prick in to McCormack Intellectual Property Law firm.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:06 PM
Dec 2013
http://mccormacklegal.com/

They're parasites who shake down anyone who uses Getty Images work without authorization.

And some people who have no idea what they're talking about.

McCormack and Zimmy deserve to meet each other.
 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
246. A fool & his....
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:40 PM
Dec 2013

money are soon parted.

I think my grandmother used to say that, and it just seemed fit to say that about now.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
247. Come on, you know that its a masterpiece
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:01 PM
Dec 2013

And Zimmy said he painted it with regular house paint. Rembrandt and Van Gogh, look out!

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
248. Auction current bid now at $110,100.00. Someone's not reading DU - LOL.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:12 PM
Dec 2013

Current bid:
US $110,100.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Zimmerman-original-painting-/111239922810?pt=Art_Paintings&hash=item19e66a847a#shpCntId

Bid history
Bidders: 27
Bids: 108
Time left: 3 days 15 hours 43 mins
Duration: 5 days

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
250. OMG, zimmy reported my question to him and ebay sent me a warning. HAhahahahahaa. Asshole zimmy
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:36 PM
Dec 2013
We received a report about a message you sent to another eBay member. The message you sent doesn't follow our guidelines for using eBay messages and violates our member-to-member contact policy.

"Does it include a "get out of jail free" card?"

We wanted to let you know about the report and encourage you to learn more about our policy by visiting:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-spam-ov.html


When I go to that page I get this

Member-to-member contact policy
In this article

Policy overview
What are the guidelines?
Additional information
Why does eBay have this policy?
Policy overview

Members can send messages to each other through eBay. We encourage open communication between our members but we don't allow our members to use these options to send spam, offers to buy or sell off eBay, threats, profanity, or hate speech. We also don't allow members to exchange email addresses or links that do not directly help buyers and sellers complete a transaction on eBay.

Make sure you follow these guidelines. If you don't, you may be subject to a range of actions, including your messages being blocked, limits of your buying and selling privileges and suspension of your account.

Please remember that we don't have control over communication unless it takes place through eBay. Also, posts on eBay discussion boards aren't covered by this policy. However, we do have a discussion boards usage policy.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
253. If that was your full comment I don't see how it violates their rules
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:56 PM
Dec 2013

It may not be a question that asshole wants to be asked, but it does not contain any threats, profanity or hate speech so I don't see how it violates their rules.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
256. That was my full comment. I don't see it either. It isn't spam as I sent it once, not any of
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:00 PM
Dec 2013

the others either. Odd.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
257. Sounds like they are protecting Zimmerman from criticism
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:25 PM
Dec 2013

I bet they would allow you to ask critical questions of other sellers, but Zimmerman always seems to get special protection.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
259. The eBay page says " 612 Inquiries"
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:47 AM
Dec 2013

Sounds like he's getting inundated eBay is hiring extra people to handle the complaints

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
279. I received one of those as well
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:05 PM
Dec 2013

I guess Gee Zee didn't like being referred to as a pathological liar. I just wish I added child killer to the message as well.

Gee Zee, if you're reading this DU thread, Ebay also said this in their response:

We're taking a neutral position regarding the report we received.




Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
251. The artist now wishs to be known as
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:47 PM
Dec 2013

GEE ZEE lol.


Gee Wizz look what GEE ZEE is doing now !

He even signs his comments-yer friend GEE ZEE.

Zimmerman I think will be in jail again before the years end on some other issue.


WCLinolVir

(951 posts)
271. The comments on Ebay are nauseating.
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:47 AM
Dec 2013

George will deliver it personally. What a shit. I do so hope he gets sued.

Sparkly

(24,149 posts)
273. Oh I get it -- "One Nation" is under "God." How cute.
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:50 AM
Dec 2013

Because it's just words, after all.

Zimmerman talking about "justice" is too rich.

TBF

(32,049 posts)
278. He obviously thinks he's clever.
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 11:46 AM
Dec 2013

And he may get the last laugh with the bidding already at $110,000. smh.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
276. VIDEO: CNN Art Critic Calls Zimmerman Painting ‘Psychotic,’ Compares Him with Manson and Gacy
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 11:21 AM
Dec 2013

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-art-critic-calls-zimmerman-painting-psychotic-compares-him-with-manson-and-gacy/
by Tommy Christopher | 9:54 am, December 18th, 2013 video

Neighborhood watchman-turned-painter George Zimmerman is headed for a big payday, but instead of being the toast of the art world, he’s getting roasted over his initial effort, a flag-themed homage to Picasso, stock photography, and concrete poetry. On CNN’s New Day Wednesday morning, host Chris Cuomo tapped the expertise of New York Magazine art critic Jerry Saltz, who blasted Zimmerman’s effort, and was beside himself at the thought that the “travesty” puts Zimmerman in the price range of artists like Pablo Picasso, Andy Warhol, and Roy Lichtenstein.

Bidding on Zimmerman’s painting now stands at $110,100.00 on eBay, despite the revelation that the piece, entitled “America,” is a derivation of an arguably superior work: “American Flag” by Shutterstock.

Zimmerman’s painting is a multi-layered homage/commentary on 20th century art. He cleverly inverts the artistic conceit of Warhol’s “Campbell’s Soup Cans,” instead taking a meaningful symbol of American culture and turning it into a cheap object of commerce. Zimmerman also pays subtle homage to Picasso’s Blue Period, which was inspired by the suicide of his friend Carlos Casagemas. It might also be a dig at the paltry selection at his local Michael’s craft store. Finally, Zimmerman’s placement of the words “one nation” physically beneath the word “God” is a clear reference to the grade-school pictograms of Salvador Dali, particularly his famous “Man Overboard.”

Cuomo brought Saltz in to explain “How can someone like this, assuming you believe the worst about George Zimmerman, how could someone ever want art from someone like this?”

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Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
281. The art critic seemed to nail it
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:47 PM
Dec 2013

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Next the experts that study psychopaths in the prisons will weigh in with comparisons of prison art done by psychopathic criminals convicted some of the most terrible kinds of crimes such as cold blooded murder. But, it does look as though the art critic nailed it.

Zimmerman's mother it seems was the dominant influence down religious avenues up at the top.
Draw a line from God to with than over to all-now you see (God one with all]or reverse that (All in one}. That's Zimmerman's game. Zimmerman no doubt gained much gratification out of saying on television that he thinks it was all part of God's plan. I think Pailn said something to that effect about herself having been selected to run with McCain.Actually I think Zimmerman said that in a fox news interview.

So that gun no doubt gained him a sense of omnipotence.That's that shit eating grin you see.
The art critic didn't hit on Zimmerman at his low points becoming consumed with self pity.What his girl friend calls periods of depression. But in his picture with that ,he is showing you only what he wants you to see. That shit eating grinish smile. {Hay it's me Gee Zee ,see it's an original}Big grin. Imagine now Gee Zee sees himself and a potential buyer being photographed together with Zimmerman's piece-kind of like the sweepstakes thing, you know, Ed Mc Man-Zimmerman holding one side of it ,the buyer the other -Big Grins. There you can imagine Zimmerman rubbing his hands together in glee at the thought of it. And if you think about it,that would have to be Zimmerman's very own PR plan. But the guy that got him off isn't in it though.You see, Zimmerman has and has had his own plan all along.

Again the art critic got it, Zimmerman is heading down -he's going to fall,but he thinks he's climbing high. That's what is odd.

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
282. Juanita Jean had some fun with this story
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 01:04 PM
Dec 2013
http://www.juanitajean.com/2013/12/18/and-with-every-purchase-comes-a-free-act-of-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-115155

Just when you think you’ve seen enough creepy crap to last a lifetime, along comes George Zimmerman (yeah, that guy) and blows the bottom outta creepy.

He selling his “art” on Ebay.

And some dandy art it is. It’s kinda decoupage meets rubber stamps. Kinda Martha Stewart on crack.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
284. So where are Zimmerman's cheerleaders in all of this?
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 01:58 PM
Dec 2013

They're usually so quick to show up in these threads....

Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #284)

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
298. Price dropped $10,000. Lots of retractions! How many more will retract?
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 11:35 PM
Dec 2013

This isn't over yet. Two more retractors, and it drops another $15,000.

Bidders: 24
Bids: 96
Time left: 14 hours
Duration: 5 days

Bid retraction and cancellation history:

c***2 Retracted: US $99,666.00
r***r Cancelled: US $98,000.00
9***9 Retracted: US $97,800.00
_***d Cancelled: US $96,200.00
c***t Cancelled: US $97,600.00
t***r Cancelled: US $95,000.00
e***3 Cancelled: US $97,400.00
1***1 Cancelled: US $99,866.00
k***3 Cancelled: US $98,200.00
m***p Cancelled: US $110,000.00
3***e Cancelled: US $98,600.01
c***o Retracted: US $96,400.00
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
300. Winning bid: US $100,099.99
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 03:56 PM
Dec 2013

Hopefully, the money will be donated to Trayvon Martin's family.

It certainly is unjust to make $100,000 dollars for getting away with killing someone.

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