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Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:03 AM

Lol, George Zimmerman's artwork looks familiar

Last edited Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Over a decade ago we purchased this image from PhotoDisc (now Getty Images) for about $20...



And used it on the T-shirts we gave to DU donors...





But if you zoom in a bit...



And give it a little photoshop magic...



Apparently it's now worth around $100,000!



EDITED TO ADD: just noticed that this seems to be getting a lot of attention so I wanted to add that it was Skinner who spotted the similarity between the images in the office this morning, I then put the post together. Credit where credit's due!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:05 AM

1. Great catch!

It would be awesome if he got nailed for copyright violations!

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Response to Wait Wut (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:43 PM

197. So this is what the term Scam Artist means.



I hope they getty him good.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:06 AM

2. Oh, HELL NO!!!! ETA- Link to the Ebay sale"

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:54 PM

101. Which one of you hooligans bid over $99,000 on it?

I doubt anyone will bid $100k on it.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:33 PM

211. As a former Power Seller

I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatched on that auction.

Those low feedback bidders? That's GZ, or his buddies, driving up the bidding with dummy accounts.

It might sell for over $100k, but that doesn't mean that he will get the money.

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Response to Stargazer09 (Reply #211)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:04 PM

244. Would be funny if a dummy account wins it and GZ owes taxes on the sale.

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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #244)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:45 AM

264. What would be funny

Is if eBay charges him a percentage of the final price AND forces him to pay that fee, regardless of who "wins" the auction or whether or not GZ actually got paid.

Oh, and then bans him from eBay due to his false bids. That's important, too.

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Response to Stargazer09 (Reply #211)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 08:55 PM

289. There appears to be several "bad eggs"

c***2( 1304) Retracted: US $99,666.00
Bid: Dec-16-13 18:22:33 PST
Retracted: Dec-16-13 18:59:21 PST

r***r( 180) Cancelled: US $98,000.00
Bid: Dec-18-13 13:52:12 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 14:13:20 PST

9***9( 94) Retracted: US $97,800.00
Bid: Dec-18-13 13:28:34 PST
Retracted: Dec-18-13 13:31:28 PST

_***d( 1781) Cancelled: US $96,200.00
Bid: Dec-18-13 14:44:20 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 15:10:07 PST

c***t( 256) Cancelled: US $97,600.00
Bid: Dec-18-13 12:43:12 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 13:48:41 PST

t***r( 239) Not a registered user Cancelled: US $95,000.00
Bid: Dec-16-13 18:20:44 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 15:40:58 PST

e***3( 6 ) Cancelled: US $97,400.00
Bid: Dec-16-13 18:22:22 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 13:59:57 PST

1***1( 380) Cancelled: US $99,866.00
Bid: Dec-16-13 18:31:06 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 12:23:18 PST

k***3( 1241) Cancelled: US $98,200.00
Bid: Dec-18-13 14:09:25 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 14:39:16 PST

m***p( 8 ) Not a registered user Cancelled: US $110,000.00
Bid: Dec-17-13 14:44:03 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 10:38:34 PST

3***e( 90) Cancelled: US $98,600.01
Bid: Dec-18-13 14:12:45 PST
Cancelled: Dec-18-13 14:31:11 PST

c***o( 314) Retracted: US $96,400.00
Bid: Dec-18-13 15:03:53 PST
Retracted: Dec-18-13 15:18:49 PST

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:06 AM

3. OMG.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:08 AM

4. What a find!!11!




Some guys have all the luck.

You can sell yours at $90K and still make a killing.




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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:21 PM

186. "and still make a killing"

He did. He sure did. I just how he diesnr do it again

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:08 AM

5. Ha! At least Bush's bad art is original.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:07 PM

60. Not only are the images copied...

.... but y'know Jasper Johns did flags and stenciled letters (in a much more interesting way) back in the '50's.

But I suppose ol' Quick Draw Georgie hasn't a clue who Jasper Johns is.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:52 PM

98. "I done it with ma own poop"

"'N Laura hepped me sign it."

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Response to yurbud (Reply #98)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:28 PM

234. Did ya poop spell out 'ART'?

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Response to icymist (Reply #234)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:48 PM

242. "yeah, and then God said people'd pay a lot for it: 'Thou ART worthy.'"

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:10 AM

6. LOL!!!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:10 AM

7. And the wording is stenciled!

Oh, this is too good!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:10 AM

8. Too funny. Lol.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:10 AM

9. Be fair!

After all, he did provide us with his original words of wisdom and inspiration!

Poetic gold !

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Response to Feral Child (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:24 AM

20. LOL

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:13 AM

10. Good work EarlG

I hope the media picks up on this to show what a fraud this guy is.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:15 PM

181. He better hurry up and call 911 to tell *his* side of things.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:18 AM

11. I so want to be able to let bidders on Ebay know about this!!! n/t

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:03 PM

107. There's a link where you can ask a question of the seller

I wonder if he's monitoring those? It might be fun to send a link to this thread

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:18 AM

12. Bid retracted!

Member c***2 Retracted: US $99,666.00
Bid: Dec-16-13 18:22:33 PST
Retracted: Dec-16-13 18:59:21 PST

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:36 AM

32. good.

he should only be in prison making license plates for 26 cents an hour.

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Response to barbtries (Reply #32)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:03 PM

57. That's not a living wage!

 

Of course he would get 3 hots and a cot so I guess that's fair!

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Response to Pretzel_Warrior (Reply #57)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:17 PM

113. Not sure "living" would be a worry for Inmate George

Dude who shot a black kid in cold blood, in a place full of black men...how long would he last?

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #113)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:36 PM

126. They'd have him in Punk City....

AKA: PC

AKA: Protective Custody.

He would NEVER get tossed into General Population.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #126)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:39 PM

195. Oh, you never know...

If they sent him to a lockup with a lot of African-American or Hispanic guards...

"I told you to put him in PC, he somehow got put in General, and he fell down a flight of stairs thirty-eight times last night."

'You know, I THOUGHT there were a hell of a lot of people in PC. He's okay, isn't he?'

"He has a hundred and twenty broken bones."

'Oh, then he'll be fine.'

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #195)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:17 PM

206. He was "rolling his ground" on the stairs

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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #206)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:27 PM

233. In more ways than one.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:19 AM

13. Bidders are looking for a piece of george zimmerman, a fraud, crook, worthless soul.

They get it with this paint by the numbers piece of junk. He needs to sell kisses on the rear for $20.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:20 AM

14. I smelled a big fat rat when I first saw the "original Zimmy masterpiece".

Just couldn't quite put my finger on it.

K&R.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:24 AM

19. I did, too. The picture looked more like a photograph than a painting.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:56 PM

102. Me too. I was surprised how "good" it was.

God, what a depraved, soul-less fuck.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:21 AM

15. Here's the substance of my chat with Getty Images about the matter:

Welcome! A representative will be with you shortly. For your security, do not give out your credit card number or other sensitive personal data during a Live Chat session.

You are now chatting with Peter.

Peter: Hello! How can I help you today?

NYC_SKP: George Zimmerman is selling a painting based on a protected work from your site. Here is the sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111239922810

And here is the protected work you represent and offer for use: http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/photo/american-flag-stars-and-stripes-royalty-free-image/171580891

NYC_SKP: I think it may be a violation of copyright.

NYC_SKP: More about that here:

NYC_SKP: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024188920

Peter: yikes - we'll take a look

Peter: thanks for sending

NYC_SKP: Thanks very much, and have a good day!




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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:23 AM

17. Oooooo! Snap! Nice work, NYC_SKP. I was just trying to find a way to let Ebay bidders know. n/t

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:30 PM

170. The bidders won't care.. They love Zimmy...

$100,000? Seriously? And if you read the comments they are along the lines of "We love you, and we stand behind you"..

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #170)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:07 PM

179. He isn't posting all the questions and I doubt many of those bidders are real.

I sent him a couple questions, ranging from mocking to very polite and he hasn't put them up for viewing. Also, if you click on a bidder, most of them that is all they have bid on, leading me to suspect either zimmy is bidding via another account hoping to drive up the price, or people are making false accounts to bid with and never pay. Unfortunately, Hugh Moran (my fake account) can not bid unless he enters a credit card number or I would be messing with it also.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #179)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:27 PM

189. Yeah I went back and looked at the "Bid list"

there are 3 names who keep raising the bid against themselves.. This is a scam. You have to wonder about these right wingers who do nothing but bitch about "lazy takers" while looking for a free ride.. Reminds me of that idiot who did the ACORN video. James something or other, spends his days whining about liberal freeloaders while running a website begging for money from conservatives to make his "movies"...

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #179)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:52 PM

200. If zimmy is bidding to drive the price up

And if the auction is not determined to be fraudulent, will eBay go after zimmy for their fees? I sure hope so!

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #170)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:12 PM

205. They're so easily led astray.Bet they won't buy it though

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:27 AM

21. awesome.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:27 AM

22. Awesome


George is building his resume - adding thief - an unimaginative one at that!

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:28 AM

24. Great work, thank you. Too good.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:29 AM

25. Did you tell them that Jerry the Tapir could have done a more "original" artwork than Z?

And with no hands, ma.


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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #25)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:37 AM

34. ...gonna need a bigger canvas!

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:33 AM

27. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!



Awesome!

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:36 AM

31. That's a HUGE copyright violation

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Response to Auggie (Reply #31)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:51 PM

291. Is it huge really?

Is it huge really? Like Picaso kind of huge? The site that found out about it paid like $20 for the image and prints it all over coffee cups and tee shirts to give away to its donators. I don't know what George did ... Nor does anyone on here really ... Did he print it out and paint over it? Did he hand paint it by hand and eye. Did he print out just the outline or grey scale of it and paint over that? Then he added some kind of stenciled lettering.

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Response to aspicer (Reply #291)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:30 PM

292. Yes, it's huge. Unless he did that with Getty Images' permission, they could sue his ass.

A lot of people will send a cease-and-desist letter before moving to sue, but it's not required.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:41 AM

37. Great work, NYC_SKP!

George isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, is he?

I wonder if it will make it to the news, just so people are careful before they buy any 'original' works from him?

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:44 AM

40. lol! That's excellent.



Well done, NYC.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:46 AM

41. BRILLIANT!

NYC_SKP -- you are most awesome!

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #41)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:08 PM

61. It is so brilliant and I think Rachel would love it. I think she covered Z pretty much earlier..n/t

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Response to monmouth3 (Reply #61)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:22 PM

74. I sent her the link to this thread.

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Response to GreatCaesarsGhost (Reply #74)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:24 PM

78. Good on ya...n/t

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Response to GreatCaesarsGhost (Reply #74)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:33 PM

89. I so hope she covers it! It's hillarious.

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Response to GreatCaesarsGhost (Reply #74)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:06 PM

109. I would NOT be shocked to see her touch on this tonight!

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Response to GreatCaesarsGhost (Reply #74)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:18 PM

230. Also send it to Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and Bill Mahr. they would do a real number on him.

Oh, and Lawrence O'Donnell and Ed Schultz.

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Response to monmouth3 (Reply #61)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:36 PM

155. Jon Stewart is going to have a field day with this story.

Can't wait for all the pundits and comedians to crown his fraudulence.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:56 AM

47. Good for you

I always love it when frauds are exposed. 👍

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Response to Mz Pip (Reply #47)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:42 PM

128. Amen.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:00 PM

53. Good work, NYC_SKP! nt

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:05 PM

59. You win internets.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:12 PM

63. You beat me to it! THANK YOU!

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:23 PM

76. Good Going!!!

Not doubt a violation. He took the image, had it solarized which allowed him to translated into the monochromatic blue tones. He may even have had the image copied onto canvas and painted over the copy. Hope this goes viral.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:25 PM

80. Great work NYC_SKP

I hope they bust his ass.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:56 PM

103. THAT is fucking awesome!

You go, NYC_SKP!

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:46 PM

129. Very good.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:25 PM

149. Peter's reply is priceless!

Great idea you had there!

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:28 PM

169. I believe he's altered the image enough for it to be considered "original."

Exposing this guy as a hack is a just reward, though.

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Response to 1000words (Reply #169)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:29 PM

209. Nope, he hasn't.

You'd be surprised some of the copyright suits that have been filed and won, on images that are much, much less alike than his. He is in violation of the copyright on this, no doubt about it.

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Response to Th1onein (Reply #209)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:28 PM

222. I am pleased.

Squirm, Zimmy.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:54 PM

176. Ebay reps are always "looking into" something or other.

Problem is, they never DO anything.

I went a step beyond live chat and contacted a friend who used to work in the eBay security offices in Utah, to let them know about a flagrant shill bidder. It was someone I knew personally, so it wasn't a suspicion - I knew exactly which accounts were being used to shill bid. If you looked at those accounts, it would show 100% activity with this one seller only, in categories ranging from Barbie dolls to currency to records, you name it, and that 100% specific to one seller activity went back for years on each shill account. Even at that personal versus call-center-in-outer-Bangalore level, their interests lay solely in the direction of making more money off of that seller having auctions (and if he shill bid them up, eBay made even more money). Ebay has recently cloaked the handles of bidders (look at the bid history on this auction and you'll see), and eliminated the click-on-the-bidder option, to make it even more impossible to detect/report shill bidders. Ebay, in short, simply doesn't care. And they're constantly tweaking their site so they can employ the zero punishment policies that keep lining their pockets, while allowing them to eliminate departments that exist only in name, like "security".

This auction is no exception, as all eBay cares about is getting their cut of whatever ludicrous sum this thing ends up fetching.

The only way eBay would pretend to care otherwise would be if the media embarrassed them enough. But don't waste your time thinking eBay's "customer service" or even "security department" gives a chit.

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Response to mellymai (Reply #176)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:58 PM

177. The letter isn't to EBay, it was to Getty, who represent copyright holders.

If people steal content, they lose money.

I think they're interested.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #177)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:39 PM

239. I wonder if Getty could sue ebay as well for covering up the fraud?

They are profiting from fraud, after all.

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Response to icymist (Reply #239)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:36 PM

293. I doubt they'd do that. Far more likely they'll simply inform ebay, which will pull the auction. nt

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:32 PM

193. rofl, I love it.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 08:23 PM

286. Royalty Free

Doesn't it say Royalty Free for that image? What am I missing?

Release information: No release, but this image does not require a release. This image is available for commercial use.

Maybe I don't totally understand this. There is also royalty free pricing for different sizes of the image. Maybe he paid for an image like you guys did?

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Response to aspicer (Reply #286)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 08:52 PM

288. I think you are confused between copyright and royalty free. What do you think about GZ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royalty-free
Photography and Illustrations

In photography and the illustration industry, it refers to a copyright license where the user has the right to use the picture without many restrictions based on one-time payment to the licensor. The user can therefore use the image in several projects without having to purchase any additional licenses. RF licenses can not be given on an exclusive basis. In stock photography, RF is one of the common licenses sometimes contrasted with Rights Managed licenses and often employed in subscription-based or microstock photography business models.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright
Copyright is a legal concept, enacted by most governments, that grants the creator of an original work exclusive rights to its use and distribution, usually for a limited time, with the intention of enabling the creator of intellectual wealth (e.g. the photographer of a photograph or the author of a book) to receive compensation for their work and be able to financially support themselves.

Copyright is a form of intellectual property (as patents, trademarks and trade secrets are), applicable to any expressible form of an idea or information that is substantive and discrete. It is often shared, then percentage holders are commonly called rightsholders: legally, contractually and in associated "rights" business functions. Generally rightsholders have "the right to copy", but also the right to be credited for the work, to determine who may adapt the work to other forms, who may perform the work, who may financially benefit from it, and other related rights.

Copyright initially was conceived as a way for government to restrict printing; the contemporary intent of copyright is to promote the creation of new works by giving authors control of and profit from them. Copyrights are said to be territorial, which means that they do not extend beyond the territory of a specific state unless that state is a party to an international agreement. Today, however, this is less relevant since most countries are parties to at least one such agreement. While many aspects of national copyright laws have been standardized through international copyright agreements, copyright laws of most countries have some unique features. Typically, the duration of copyright is the whole life of the creator plus fifty to a hundred years from the creator's death, or a finite period for anonymous or corporate creations. Some jurisdictions have required formalities to establishing copyright, but most recognize copyright in any completed work, without formal registration. Generally, copyright is enforced as a civil matter, though some jurisdictions do apply criminal sanctions.

Most jurisdictions recognize copyright limitations, allowing "fair" exceptions to the creator's exclusivity of copyright, and giving users certain rights. The development of digital media and computer network technologies have prompted reinterpretation of these exceptions, introduced new difficulties in enforcing copyright, and inspired additional challenges to copyright law's philosophic basis. Simultaneously, businesses with great economic dependence upon copyright have advocated the extension and expansion of their intellectual property rights, and sought additional legal and technological enforcement.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:23 AM

16. Had to put mine on

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:24 AM

18. Holy shit!!!!

Can you sue him????

WTF, what a fucking theif, liar and fraud!!!

Grrrrrr

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #23)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:01 PM

106. The last one is really quite good:

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Response to Contrary1 (Reply #106)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:23 PM

245. EXCELLENT!

EXCELLENT!

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #23)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:17 AM

275. I love the Curious George!!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:32 AM

26. rofl....haha

Passing it off as if its his original.Lying ass.

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #26)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:41 AM

35. He's now posted a picture of himself posing with it in his sale listing.

Last edited Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:49 PM - Edit history (2)

Seems quite proud of his hand painted artwork.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Zimmerman-original-painting-/111239922810?pt=Art_Paintings&hash=item19e66a847a



309 Inquiries.

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Response to polly7 (Reply #35)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:51 AM

43. Did you read the questions and comments on Ebay?

he is acting as if he actually painted this...lol this guy is a scam artist. No job so he is scamming people, and what makes him think its even worth that kind of money. But his minions no matter what will buy it

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #43)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:54 AM

45. I did.

A little vague with the answer to the oil medium question ... now we know why.

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Response to polly7 (Reply #45)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:00 PM

52. Yea. Real artist know their medium

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #52)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:04 PM

58. Oops, he did answer ...

apparently it's latex household paint.

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Response to polly7 (Reply #58)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:13 PM

67. ...



"I know its not the fanciest, but it is what we had and I needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible. Your friend, GZ @therealGeorgeZ"

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #67)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:16 PM

69. LOL I know, right?!

I hope he used a quality sealer.

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #67)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:23 PM

75. He needed to put "these visions" onto the blank canvas?

Like he's a real artist with "visions." What a blithering idiot.

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Response to Th1onein (Reply #75)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:53 PM

99. Yea, he has visions alright. ...

"visions" of sugarplums dancing in his head.

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #99)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:58 PM

105. I have visions, too.

My vision of Georgie has him in a prison. And, quite frankly? I think that vision is going to prove to be reality sooner, if not later.

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Response to polly7 (Reply #58)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:48 PM

198. House paint. What a moran

I sent a question asking if it was paint-by-numbers, but he didn't respond or post it.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #198)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:41 PM

212. You've got to wonder, with all the questions letting him know the jig

is up, why he'd leave it up without at least altering the description. He's either really, really sure he's invincible and nothing will come of this, or he's just completely stupid.

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Response to polly7 (Reply #212)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:46 PM

214. Dumb as a stump and ate up with the Dunning–Kruger

Or in other words, your typical wingnut.

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Response to polly7 (Reply #58)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:42 PM

240. Picasso used house paint

In this case, I think the "painting" is really inkjet on canvas. A legitimate way to sell art to be sure, but especially appropriate when your "art" is a downloaded stock photo you turned blue and typed words on.

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #43)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:47 PM

130. Scam or conspiracy...

For a small circle in Central Florida, it is an acceptable way of life.

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Response to polly7 (Reply #35)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:36 PM

92. If You Click

On the bid history numbers on that page, when it shows the bids, EB asks what you think and you can comment there.

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Response to cynzke (Reply #92)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:58 PM

104. Excellent!

I did ask him a question, but he won't answer me. "How much for two day shipping to Canada ... and will I get into trouble with customs because it's a stolen image?"

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Response to polly7 (Reply #104)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:19 PM

117. I posted a link to the original Getty image, and filed a complaint too

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #117)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 02:58 PM

285. I also filed a complaint with eBay. We'll see.nt

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Response to polly7 (Reply #35)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:29 AM

261. can't stand looking at his fucking face

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:34 AM

28. Holy Guacamole!!

LOL!

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Response to meegbear (Reply #28)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:57 AM

48. You mean on top of everything else...he's also a DIP?

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:34 AM

29. Just reported him to Ebay as well

You can't sell copyrighted material there. Tee hee. Thanks, I needed this laugh.

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #29)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:41 AM

36. Someone should send the seller a message asking if it was plagiarized.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #36)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:52 AM

44. I just sent him a question

I said something like: "Hi George, I doubt Manuela Krause who is selling this image on Getty Images, would appreciate you stealing her work and calling it your own. Tell us George, what is it like being a pathological liar?"

I hope it shows up on the Ebay page like this one did:

What is the medium; oil or acrylic? Thanks Dec-17-13
A: Thanks for your question, The paint was donated to me by a great friend (J.S.), as far as I know it is regular household latex paint. I know its not the fanciest, but it is what we had and I needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible. Your friend, GZ @therealGeorgeZ


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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #44)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:31 PM

192. rofl....I bet now he'll have all comments disabled

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #192)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:42 PM

196. Well darn it

He didn't answer my question. LOL

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #196)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:52 PM

201. He wont answer for fear of exposure..

but you do know that your question will anger him and he will get pulled over by the police.
lol

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #36)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:42 PM

94. I just asked what percentage of the sale gts sent to Getty and how much he gets to keep

i bet he won't answr. again

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #29)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:48 AM

42. Ebay is going to shut him down .lol

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #29)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:13 PM

66. Good! Thank you.

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #29)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:38 PM

194. Zimmerman's faux painting

I reported him to Ebay. I know that I am not allowed to use a photo if it has a copyright so shouldn't this be against the law and Ebay rules?

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:35 AM

30. he's going to make a bunch of money

out of it too. wow.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:37 AM

33. God bless Trayvon Martin

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #33)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:41 AM

38. +1 million

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #33)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:43 AM

39. Perfect

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #33)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:26 PM

82. Much better. nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:55 AM

46. Appears To Be Plagiarism

Brought the graphics into two layers in Photoshop, changed the opacity on the GZ "original", and it appears to be nothing more than a manipulated copy.

His image distorts and skews elements of the original. However, the nuances of the curves, furls, and objects (stars, stripes) are way too similar to be coincidental.

I'm speechless that this con man has admirers, supporters, and well-wishers. It's sick.

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Response to BodieTown (Reply #46)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:00 PM

54. He's claiming to have used latex paint on canvas (see questions on ebay page)

How is it possible to transfer the image to canvas?

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #54)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:17 PM

72. Multiple ways of doing it... even "paint by numbers" software.

But I'm betting even that is too sophisticated for him.

He probably just went to Wal-Mart and had the completed "artwork" printed on canvas.

http://photos.walmart.com/walmart/storepage/storePageId=Wall+Art

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Response to hunter (Reply #72)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:30 PM

85. Thanks

I didn't know this could be done. I need to get out more. LOL

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Response to hunter (Reply #72)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:48 PM

131. Immediately when I say this"painting"....

I felt it was similar to a paint by numbers. Essentially, not an authentic original project....now my suspicious are confirmed.

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #54)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:21 PM

73. If It Were Me...

...I would manipulate the original in Photoshop to create the final blobby painted effect, to use as the pattern. I'd distort and skew some of the elements, to change it from "exact copy" to "original" (to the untrained eye).

There are a number of ways to project an image of the "original" onto a wall/canvas (projector, "lightbox" mentioned by somebody else here, 35mm slide and projector). You would then just paint away...and take great care NOT to stay within the exact lines of the projected image.

I'm no expert, but I've been working with graphics for 14 years; I could easily modify a photo to look like GZ's "original".

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Response to BodieTown (Reply #73)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:33 PM

88. As hunter said above...

Walmart can also transfer it to canvas. I would imagine that's the route he's taken. Thanks for responding.

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #88)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:48 PM

96. Doubtful

Those photo transfers-to-canvas do not use latex paint. If he painted over said transfer, that would be a huge and amateurish mistake for a professional con man.

I'm betting he used a projection of some kind.

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Response to BodieTown (Reply #96)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:18 PM

114. He's no professional conman.

In this case, the unbelievably huge and amateurish mistake he's made is stealing the image in the first place. It was completely unnecessary. He could have taken a cheapo digital camera out and taken a bunch of pictures of flags flapping in the wind until he got a picture similar to that one. Even with no photography skills, if you take enough pictures you'll get a good one from time to time, just by sheer chance. Then it would be his own and he could modify it any way he wished and sell it legitimately. He stole the picture because he was too lazy to go out and get one of his own.

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Response to Mariana (Reply #114)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:25 PM

121. No time! He "needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible!!!"

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #121)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:04 PM

160. Using Latex housepaint donated to him by a "friend", since his memory couldn't hold on to the vision

long enough to go to an art supply shop and pick up some oils or acrylics. (but he had a canvass, just no paint).

Bizarre

"Q: What is the medium; oil or acrylic? Thanks Dec-17-13
A: Thanks for your question, The paint was donated to me by a great friend (J.S.), as far as I know it is regular household latex paint. I know its not the fanciest, but it is what we had and I needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible. Your friend, GZ @therealGeorgeZ "

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Response to adirondacker (Reply #160)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:10 PM

163. "...these visions onto the blank canvas..." What a maroon. ..nt

TYY

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Response to BodieTown (Reply #96)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:20 PM

118. "Professional" con man?

His fan club is dimmer than he is, that's all.

I'm thinking this is likely to be some kind of half-witted publicity or money-laundering scheme.

"Where'd you get the money George?"

"Ummmm... Duhs... I sold a painting on eBay. See?"

Next he'll be selling toasters on ebay, posting an image of his naked self reflected in them...

Or a sex tape will be "found."

The world is more depraved than I thought if this murdering fool ever ends up with a reality television show.

He ought to be in prison.

Then again, so should George W. Bush.


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Response to hunter (Reply #118)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:30 PM

124. I Can't...

...quit George, especially this thread.

It's unbelievable.

Somebody rightly pointed out his choice of lettering, a serif font.

A SERIF FONT! GZ is a human typewriter.

It's a royalty-free photo he used, so he can do with it what he wishes...but he can't claim ownership. I imagine he worded his ebay message just well enough to skirt the copyright issue. Probably sought an attorney's advice.

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Response to BodieTown (Reply #124)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:04 PM

140. "Probably sought an attorney's advice."

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #140)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:32 PM

235. But he never *pays* his attorneys! nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #235)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:37 PM

238. unethical attorney friends are a dime a dozen around here.

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Response to hunter (Reply #118)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:01 PM

137. Where to begin.

They get away with a lot worse around here. State Attorney's office and even the FBI just let it happen and do nothing. So the con jobs continue because everyone knows that no one is coming after them.

But it looks like George got sloppy by going national.

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Response to hunter (Reply #118)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:45 PM

258. You're right

he likely hid all the money he got from that old "defense fund" and put it in a foreign bank. He told the court he was broke and he hasn't paid his lawyers.

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Response to BodieTown (Reply #73)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:45 PM

241. If it was you...

you'd have taken your phone to the nearest flagpole and snapped your own picture of a flag, instead of starting with a stock image. You know you would have.

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #54)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:16 PM

111. Paint Jet

Any modern image/photo lab can use a paint jet printer from a digital file to print onto canvas. There's no way an amateur can paint text that well.

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Response to BodieTown (Reply #46)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:31 PM

191. Perhaps Rand Paul can "write" the forward to Zimmerman's "original art" book.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:57 AM

49. Uhhhh...copyright? What's a copyright?

I don't need no stink'n copyright ok...I gots me a gun instead!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:58 AM

50. Remember Al Capone!

Never busted for murder or raceteering but for tax evasion!

Et tu Zimmy!?

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #50)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:36 PM

237. And O.J. Simpson. nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:58 AM

51. Now he can run as VP in 2016...

On Rand Paul's ticket!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:03 PM

55. Another lurker with some art skills here

I contacted Zimmerman directly via ebay and posed this question

Did you use a light box and stencils to transfer the plagiarized image and lettering onto canvas.

Thanks, I'm just curious about your process.


We'll see if it makes it to the auction page.

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Response to toxicopoulus (Reply #55)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:16 PM

70. Shap!



Thank you for the laugh!

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Response to toxicopoulus (Reply #55)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:27 PM

83. ...



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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:03 PM

56. "Conservative" idiots will still line up to buy it

Just like they bought eight dollar bottles of "W" Ketchup to boycott Heinz and Rush Limpballs Iced Tea. They are the biggest marks going.

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #56)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:05 PM

108. The bidding is stalled with four days to go. I expect the retractions to start pouring in.

And, if the buyer does not know about the plagiarism before the end of the auction, expect a law suit afterwards.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #108)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:18 PM

185. I'm not sure the right wing nut who buys this will care about originality

Or have a clue what "art" even is. The stuff hanging on their walls already is probably about as linear and unsubtle as it gets. And they're buying infamy, anyway. GZ could bronze one of his turds and they'd snap it up.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:10 PM

62. Please, Post it on e-bay! Also, couldn't it be copyright violation?

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:12 PM

64. email PayPal

you can email PayPal about this transaction here: https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/helpcenter/helphub/home/?action=emailus

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:12 PM

65. LOL

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:14 PM

68. K&R!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:16 PM

71. I KNEW IT! You know, he can get sued for that?

Last night, when I saw the post about him selling a painting, the first thing I did was go through Google images, to find the painting he copied it from. Couldn't find it, but you did!

I'm an artist, in my spare time, and I knew that asswad couldn't come up with a painting resembling reality without a modicum of time to learn how to paint. So, he's a plagiarist, besides being a murderer. Figures.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:24 PM

77. Keep reporting this to E Bay!

E Bay does take improper sales down.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:25 PM

79. That little tidbit should be passed on to some enterprising news person

to ostensibly do investigative reporting.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:26 PM

81. I'm having a very hard time believing ...

... that the lettering here was hand painted, and I say this as someone who has some experience hand painting lettering.

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Response to surrealAmerican (Reply #81)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:24 PM

120. Yes, and...

...painting or writing words in the fashion of an old typewriter, complete with serif font, would be the quite natural option for a beginner painter.

This makes my head hurt.

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Response to BodieTown (Reply #120)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:11 PM

164. I guess my point here is that ...

... it's likely that, not only is he lying about it being his "original" work - he doesn't even know what it is he's selling (i.e. it's not a painting - it's a digital print on canvas). Either he knows full well what this canvas is (and he's lying), or the person who made it for him is conning him (and he's a fool).

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Response to BodieTown (Reply #120)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:25 AM

277. He can barely paint his name.

The wrinkles in the printed canvas that is glued to a pre-stretched canvas tell a story.
He does not know how to stretch canvas.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:30 PM

84. $100,000 for "regular household latex paint" ROFLMFAO!!!

WTF?

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:31 PM

86. So what's the best way to tint my DU T-shirt design blue to make it a GZ original?

I think I can fudge the lettering myself.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #86)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:53 PM

175. He should have never messed with da Blue.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:32 PM

87. 'Liberty and justice for all'!

Unbelievable the sheer gall of someone who got away with murder to use those words to profit from.

It really is disgusting. I hope this story makes it to the news media although the morons who actually support him, probably won't care, sadly. If they can condone murder they won't be too worried about theft.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:34 PM

90. If this is true a it is illegal. You cannot take an image owned by another, alter it and

make money from it.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:36 PM

91. EBay and PayPal will make over $3000 and won't remove it

Using an EBay PayPal calculator they stand to make over $3000 if it only sells for $100,000. They wont remove it for that profit.

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Response to tdb63 (Reply #91)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:19 PM

115. Well, then, Getty can sue them, too.

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Response to tdb63 (Reply #91)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:08 PM

162. They've removed counterfeit vintage Les Paul guitars selling for MORE than $100,000...

They'll remove this just as well.

And yes, a vintage (1950s) Les Paul can fetch more than $100,000.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:42 PM

93. You can't make this shit up.



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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:43 PM

95. That's a "canvas transfer" of an electronic image.

If you look close, there are no brush-strokes. You can have this done at Costco. What a douche.

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Response to jfkraus (Reply #95)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:16 PM

112. That's Courier Bold font.

http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/

The font generator is probably identifiable given the way it is "painted" over.

Mouse over the image on eBay and check it out magnified.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #112)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:08 PM

144. Notice how neat the text is, compared to his signature

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:49 PM

97. He's desperate.

He owes O'Mara 2 million dollars. All he needs to do is sell 20 of these.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:54 PM

100. Didn't Shepard Fairey get in a lot of trouble for doing the same thing?

Using a copyright image? Lets hope this fucker has to pay.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:08 PM

110. Artwork by coward child killer

Q: Just wanted to tell you we all love you and stand behind you. You have so many people on your side I hope you know that!
A: Thank you so much for the words of kindness and support. I do know how many great Americans are still here, I run into at least 3-5 a day that go out of their way to tell me the same. Your Friend, GZ @therealGeorgeZ

Sickening.

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Response to mikeysnot (Reply #110)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:18 PM

228. Hey, you stole my avatar (that I borrowed from somewhere)!

The KRovers, Kochie's and their spawn are using this means as a way to channel untaxed $s to a rw non-Anglo "buddy". (Untaxed because these AH don't pay anything on their capital gains, offshore holdings, inter-company "transfers".)

Perhaps that's exactly the right response: Sling in the faint praise, the back-of-the-hand pat, the dubble-auntraunde ("George, you are so clever at getting this original artwork to look just like the one you copied.") Maybe he'll fb-befriend us.

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Response to mikeysnot (Reply #110)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:33 AM

263. Get a load of this message to @therealGeorgeZ

"James Worley © ‏@JamesWorley 7h George, Your painting is on Yahoo Top Stories! http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-39-painting-bids-reach-100-000-132734585--abc-news-topstories.html … @RZimmermanJr @therealgeorgez"

Yup, @therealgeorgez has him holding that "painting" front and center on his avatar pic. Obviously his brother Robert is part of the scam. I'll bet Yahoo and ABC don't say anything when eBay withdraws the auction and Getty files a lawsuit.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:19 PM

116. OMG!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:20 PM

119. I sent the info to Rachel Madow

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:28 PM

122. At least Andy Warhol panted his own soup can.

Zimmerman's artwork lends new meaning to minimalism. Zimmerman's talent is minimal (to non-existent); his artistic vision is minimal (to non-existent); the amount of thought and effort he put into his 'creation' is minimal (to non-existent). He even aped the words he includes in the work. About the only thing even remotely clever about it is how he positioned the word "God" so that he could imply under. What I have to wonder is if he didn't cut off the last portion of his creation which clearly needed to read "including Trayvon Martin".

Earl, I really miss the 10 ten list. Please bring it back.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:29 PM

123. I say let the racists that support him PAY the $100,000. Fools and their money, and all that.

Especially his supporters....they should all be parted with their money.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:32 PM

125. BwahahahahaHAAAAAA! FOX's Alan Colmes has picked up the story!

This is rich:
Ruh-roh! I wonder if George Zimmerman is familiar with U.S. copyright law. Earl G at Democratic Underground has made an interesting discovery… I wonder if anyone has alerted eBay that Zimmy is peddling a great big copyright-infringing bogus “original” work of art?

Stay tuned… this could get really interesting really fast.

I love the smell of snark in the morning -- er, early afternoon for East Coasters…

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Response to johnfunk (Reply #125)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:43 PM

224. Oh man, this is awesome!!!!!

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Response to johnfunk (Reply #125)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:18 PM

229. Apparently it's been authenticated as original

...by Z's own brother.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:40 PM

127. Actually, no one has bid on the item.

The starting price is listed as $999.00, and with 10 hours left there are no bids.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #127)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:52 PM

134. I don't know what you're looking at -

but this has a huge number of bids. The top bid is from last night at: US $99,966.00

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Member Id: c***2 ( 1302Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Retracted: US $99,666.00
Bid: Dec-16-13 18:22:33 PST
Retracted: Dec-16-13 18:59:21 PST

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Response to TBF (Reply #134)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:31 PM

153. Is it me or is "Member e***3 upping his own bid every two minutes?

George? Izzat you?

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Response to nolabear (Reply #153)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:33 PM

171. No -

If you post a maximum bid, eBay will automatically raise your bid every time someone tops it.

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Response to connecticut yankee (Reply #171)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:40 PM

172. Oh. Gotcha. It's been years since I've been on ebay!

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Response to Nitram (Reply #127)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:05 PM

142. Current bid: US $99,966.00 --- Time left: 3d 22h

George Zimmerman original painting

Time left:
3d 22h

Current bid:
US $99,966.00

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:50 PM

132. this guy is a 1/2 watt bulb

just enough for walking around to murder and assault people. geez

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:55 PM

135. LOLOL

This will go viral, I predict...

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:59 PM

136. It's harder to get off a copywrite charge......

...than a gun charge.

- Any fool knows that!

K&R

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:01 PM

138. This OP is going VIRAL on Twitter. We need a new hashtag for this discovery. #GeorgeZcopycat

Last edited Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:40 PM - Edit history (1)

#GeorgeVanFraud perhaps? Maybe #GeorgeZcopycat is better, to not malign the great Vincent? Ideas anyone?

Tantalizing ‏@Tantalizinyou 1m
"@CallsForJustice: George Zimmerman's ORIGINAL PAINT BY PHOTOSHOP on @eBay ! #Zimmerman

StormyBlue ‏@StormyBluePup 55m
Zimmerman stealing his "art" from Democratic Underground using Photoshop. You'd think he's steal from Republicans

Path2Enlightenment ‏@Path2Enlighten 2h
LOL - George Zimmerman's #ebay "artwork" uses a photoshopped stolen image from Getty images: http://demu.gr/10024188920


https://twitter.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F10024188920&f=realtime

On edit, thanks for the suggestions:

Hashtag Contest: George Zimmerman, would-be painter, plagiarist. Help create a good hashtag please.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024189981

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #138)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:07 PM

143. #ZIMFRINGEMENT

As in copyright #Zimfringement

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Response to johnfunk (Reply #143)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:25 PM

150. This may need its own contest thread.

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Response to johnfunk (Reply #143)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 01:16 AM

266. Bwahahaha!

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #138)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:15 PM

182. Im pretty sure i had something to do with that. It's my most retweeted ever! n/t

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #182)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:20 PM

231. Now at 125 tweets, 11,000+ page views here a result of so much twittering.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:03 PM

139. The potential fine for using the image w/o a license is $150,000.

Getty Images reserves the right to pursue unauthorized users of this image or clip. If you violate our intellectual property you may be liable for: actual damages, loss of income, and profits you derive from the use of this image or clip, and, where appropriate, the costs of collection and/or statutory damages up to $150,000 (USD).


If he did this art rendering w/o first purchasing a license he'll need at least that much just to break even!

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Response to herding cats (Reply #139)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:52 PM

216. bwaaahhhh good catch!!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:04 PM

141. Hell, W has a damned self portrait for sale on Ebay right now...

Started out at a whopping 5.99 bills, but no takers so far.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Handmade-oil-painting-on-canvas-Monkey-20x24-inch-no-framed-/121236310571

I think Badnews Barbie's Christmas book is fetching more dough than W paintings.

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Response to Hubert Flottz (Reply #141)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:13 PM

146. LOL! n/t

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:13 PM

147. Uh oh,

does this mean that he won't have the money to buy his girlfriend a new glass table that he destroyed?

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:15 PM

148. This FRAUD is now being noticed on MSM = WESH Orlando

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:28 PM

151. Do you pay income taxes on eBay sales?

I think when you auction stuff you already own it's not considered income. What about this?

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Response to radhika (Reply #151)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:34 PM

154. You're supposed to pay taxes on anything you make a profit from on Ebay.

If you're making a profitable income it should be reported to the IRS as such on your next tax return.

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Response to radhika (Reply #151)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:37 PM

156. It would be taxable income. Plus, if you buy something and later sell it for more than you paid,


you'd technically owe income tax (maybe have some deductible expenses related to production costs, storing it, etc.). But, few folks pay if they make a few bucks off a trinket or two, and it's not an IRS target/priority.

But here, seems to me Zman is pretty much acting as a self-employed "artist" (albeit a worthless POS "artist" catering to the white wing) and would not only owe income tax, but likely FICA.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:30 PM

152. I was soooo looking for that earlier.

Thank you for finding it.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:41 PM

157. Others are starting to notice it as well

A few people on Gawker found the image on various sites last night.

http://gawker.com/the-font-doesnt-even-follow-the-curve-of-the-flag-but-1484479310

And so far, the media hasn't realized this fraud.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:44 PM

158. When I first saw it

Posted last night - my immediate first thought was that it was not a painting, but a photoshop - the person who spends money on it deserves to be taken.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:01 PM

159. rrneck posted about this yesterday...

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Response to TeeYiYi (Reply #159)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:50 PM

174. Coming soon to EBay: First hand painted artwork by me, NYC_SKP.

First hand painted artwork by me, NYC_SKP. Everyone has been asking what I have been doing with myself. I found a creative, way to express myself, my emotions and the symbols that represent my experiences. My art work allows me to reflect, providing a therapeutic outlet and allows me to remain indoors I hope you enjoy owning this piece as much as I enjoyed creating it. Your friend, NYC_SKP.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #174)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:17 PM

183. but did you ise latex house paint and sign it?

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #183)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:26 PM

188. Someone gave housepaint because I'm so poor.

And I had to get it on the blank canvas while it was fresh in my head.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #188)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:04 PM

202. Make sure you use the best dishwashing soap and pure H2O to clean those fine brushes.

Nice Job BTW!

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #188)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:56 PM

294. Fresh in your head? Snorting housepaint because you can't afford spray paint?

Life is so sad.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #174)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:18 PM

184. LOL I never realized you are such a talented painter

Your work is very original, never seen anything like it before.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #174)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:48 PM

199. Q: NYC_SKP, what is the medium; oil or acrylic?...

A: It's regular old household latex gloves and used condoms, melted down and applied with a blow torch. I know its not the fanciest, but my materials were just laying around, if you know what I mean, and I needed to get rid of, er, put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible while they were still pliable. Your friend, NYC_SKP @therealNewYorkCitySkip

Awesome work, NYC_SKP! I've always said, you're so creative! I've never seen anything like that. What is your muse? How do you just not burst with all of that creativity jumping out onto your canvas?...It fairly creates itself I'll bet... I know the real deal when I see it, and I see it in you. I fancy myself to be a patron of the arts. I'll give you $100,000 right now for that signed original!

TYY

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #174)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:58 PM

255. ROFLMAO! Priceless!!! Best laugh of the day, thanks!!! LOL!!!!!!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:06 PM

161. this definitely needs to be on the DU Home page...

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Response to Sancho (Reply #161)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:22 PM

232. Yes, it does need to be on the homepage!!

More people need to see this!!!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:11 PM

165. He's a master of foreshortening

an innocent kid's life...

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:12 PM

166. Great sense of observation.

Thank you.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:17 PM

167. LOL ... this is delicious!

Smart cookie, that Skinner.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:24 PM

168. #Zimmerfraud...

when you steal others art work and pass it off as an original.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:48 PM

173. I still have one of those t-shirts!

anyone want to give me $100,000 for it?

Didn't think so. I hang with a smarter crowd than Georgie does.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:01 PM

178. Thanks for this.

I was checking it out another thread and totally thought it was traced over then painted. What can I say, I've been a paid media artist for 15 years. Can't escape the eye.

I hope the bidders lose a lot of money over this.



-p

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:11 PM

180. dang

all I ever got was bumper stickers

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:24 PM

187. I knew I'd seen the flag image, cropped exactly the same, somewhere before

It's really hilarious that it's been used on a DU product! Great catch!

While I don't find it sad that a megalomaniac would post a bad Photoshop as original artwork on Ebay, I do weep that there is someone with $100,000 to waste on its purchase.

I guess money really is how untalented people keep score.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:29 PM

190. Was the image trademarked or anything? It would be great to nail his sorry ass for something.

 

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Response to WowSeriously (Reply #190)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:50 PM

243. Copyrighted. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #243)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:48 PM

252. Dammit! Thanks.

 

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:07 PM

203. Bull shit art.

It's really bad stuff. Really bad.

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Response to graywarrior (Reply #203)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:27 AM

269. It's just a flimsy, half-assed way to get some income under the table

I'm pretty sure the "bidders" are all close friends...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #269)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:37 AM

270. And he keeps getting attention which is what he craves

Meanwhile, some amazing artists don't get diddly squat. He's like a god damn cancerous tumor.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:08 PM

204. 437 inquiries and he only post 3.

rofl.Must be some interesting inquiries.

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #204)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:23 AM

260. If you click on 'Continue Reading' you'll see a few more...

including *this* gem!

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Q: We all think a lot of you Zimm and hope the best for you!I may bid on your painting at the last min.How will you ship the picture,can it be picked up local?I would be driving from Arkansas

A: The price it is at now has well exceeded my $.99 minimum; therefore, whoever wins within the Continental United States, will receive this painting delivered by me personally. Your friend,
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Wow, personal delivery (as long as he's allowed to enter that state, I guess)

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:23 PM

207. If I record 'Let it Be' by the Beatles

while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance over it..is it my work?

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Response to tdb63 (Reply #207)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:46 PM

213. Why do you hate America and the Pledge?

I think that's the real question here.

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Response to tdb63 (Reply #207)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:07 PM

218. I can't use an entire song...

when I make a video. It's definitely a copyright violation.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:24 PM

208. K&R

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:30 PM

210. Who does he think he is, Thomas Kincaid?

Didn't Kincaid take already-done paintings and add some stupid mark, then call them original?

And the market seems pretty similar too.

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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #210)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:59 PM

217. At least you could almost call that art

Unlike George's house-paint-by-the-numbers on canvas.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:49 PM

215. we should be encouraging his painting career

if only to keep him off the streets.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:10 PM

219. Anybody know GZ's DU handle? eom

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #219)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:17 PM

220. During the trial there were definitely some Zman supporters trolling here.


The ones I found disgusting would say, "I think Mr. Zimmerman is an awful person, but he had no choice but to shoot big bad Trayvon Martin". They totally ignored his choice to grab his gun, stalk an unarmed teenager, bully him, then shoot him center mass as he had trained to do, then told the police his lies (again as trained to do).

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #219)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:55 AM

265. No, but you can Tweet him...

@therealGeorgeZ

Or better yet, Tweet the brains in the family, his scheming brother Robert Jr. @RZimmermanJr

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:25 PM

221. !!!



*gasp*

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:32 PM

223. k and r.....LOLOLOLOL nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:45 PM

225. I hope he "sells/"rips off a bunch of Tea/Repukes!! Awesome!!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:51 PM

226. Zimmerman used the same stock image on his web page

begging for money. I bet source for that image was the source for his "painting". I there any way to tell where he got the image?

http://wayback.archive.org/web/20120409213544/http:/www.therealgeorgezimmerman.com/

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #226)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:06 PM

227. Turn that little prick in to McCormack Intellectual Property Law firm.

http://mccormacklegal.com/

They're parasites who shake down anyone who uses Getty Images work without authorization.

And some people who have no idea what they're talking about.

McCormack and Zimmy deserve to meet each other.

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #227)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:56 PM

254. Just contacted them. Thanks for the link!

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #226)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:35 PM

236. And that page says "Content copyright 2013. . All rights reserved."

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #226)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:52 AM

274. Good catch. And I notice that the 'content' of that site was copyrighted!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:40 PM

246. A fool & his....

money are soon parted.

I think my grandmother used to say that, and it just seemed fit to say that about now.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:01 PM

247. Come on, you know that its a masterpiece

And Zimmy said he painted it with regular house paint. Rembrandt and Van Gogh, look out!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:12 PM

248. Auction current bid now at $110,100.00. Someone's not reading DU - LOL.

Current bid:
US $110,100.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Zimmerman-original-painting-/111239922810?pt=Art_Paintings&hash=item19e66a847a#shpCntId

Bid history
Bidders: 27
Bids: 108
Time left: 3 days 15 hours 43 mins
Duration: 5 days

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:30 PM

249. "artwork"

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:36 PM

250. OMG, zimmy reported my question to him and ebay sent me a warning. HAhahahahahaa. Asshole zimmy

We received a report about a message you sent to another eBay member. The message you sent doesn't follow our guidelines for using eBay messages and violates our member-to-member contact policy.

"Does it include a "get out of jail free" card?"

We wanted to let you know about the report and encourage you to learn more about our policy by visiting:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-spam-ov.html


When I go to that page I get this

Member-to-member contact policy
In this article

Policy overview
What are the guidelines?
Additional information
Why does eBay have this policy?
Policy overview

Members can send messages to each other through eBay. We encourage open communication between our members but we don't allow our members to use these options to send spam, offers to buy or sell off eBay, threats, profanity, or hate speech. We also don't allow members to exchange email addresses or links that do not directly help buyers and sellers complete a transaction on eBay.

Make sure you follow these guidelines. If you don't, you may be subject to a range of actions, including your messages being blocked, limits of your buying and selling privileges and suspension of your account.

Please remember that we don't have control over communication unless it takes place through eBay. Also, posts on eBay discussion boards aren't covered by this policy. However, we do have a discussion boards usage policy.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #250)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:56 PM

253. If that was your full comment I don't see how it violates their rules

It may not be a question that asshole wants to be asked, but it does not contain any threats, profanity or hate speech so I don't see how it violates their rules.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #253)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:00 PM

256. That was my full comment. I don't see it either. It isn't spam as I sent it once, not any of

the others either. Odd.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #256)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:25 PM

257. Sounds like they are protecting Zimmerman from criticism

I bet they would allow you to ask critical questions of other sellers, but Zimmerman always seems to get special protection.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #250)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:47 PM

259. The eBay page says " 612 Inquiries"

Sounds like he's getting inundated eBay is hiring extra people to handle the complaints

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #259)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 11:00 PM

295. OMG, he's a job creator!

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #250)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:32 AM

262. he probably also called 9-1-1

 

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #250)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 11:05 AM

279. I received one of those as well

I guess Gee Zee didn't like being referred to as a pathological liar. I just wish I added child killer to the message as well.

Gee Zee, if you're reading this DU thread, Ebay also said this in their response:

We're taking a neutral position regarding the report we received.




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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:47 PM

251. The artist now wishs to be known as

GEE ZEE lol.


Gee Wizz look what GEE ZEE is doing now !

He even signs his comments-yer friend GEE ZEE.

Zimmerman I think will be in jail again before the years end on some other issue.


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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 01:20 AM

267. Earl G! How observant, a regular Doyle creation! You need a Duzy for

being Earl G!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:47 AM

271. The comments on Ebay are nauseating.

George will deliver it personally. What a shit. I do so hope he gets sued.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:47 AM

272. lol thanks for the post.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:50 AM

273. Oh I get it -- "One Nation" is under "God." How cute.

Because it's just words, after all.

Zimmerman talking about "justice" is too rich.

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Response to Sparkly (Reply #273)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:46 AM

278. He obviously thinks he's clever.

And he may get the last laugh with the bidding already at $110,000. smh.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:21 AM

276. VIDEO: CNN Art Critic Calls Zimmerman Painting ‘Psychotic,’ Compares Him with Manson and Gacy


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-art-critic-calls-zimmerman-painting-psychotic-compares-him-with-manson-and-gacy/
by Tommy Christopher | 9:54 am, December 18th, 2013 video

Neighborhood watchman-turned-painter George Zimmerman is headed for a big payday, but instead of being the toast of the art world, he’s getting roasted over his initial effort, a flag-themed homage to Picasso, stock photography, and concrete poetry. On CNN’s New Day Wednesday morning, host Chris Cuomo tapped the expertise of New York Magazine art critic Jerry Saltz, who blasted Zimmerman’s effort, and was beside himself at the thought that the “travesty” puts Zimmerman in the price range of artists like Pablo Picasso, Andy Warhol, and Roy Lichtenstein.

Bidding on Zimmerman’s painting now stands at $110,100.00 on eBay, despite the revelation that the piece, entitled “America,” is a derivation of an arguably superior work: “American Flag” by Shutterstock.

Zimmerman’s painting is a multi-layered homage/commentary on 20th century art. He cleverly inverts the artistic conceit of Warhol’s “Campbell’s Soup Cans,” instead taking a meaningful symbol of American culture and turning it into a cheap object of commerce. Zimmerman also pays subtle homage to Picasso’s Blue Period, which was inspired by the suicide of his friend Carlos Casagemas. It might also be a dig at the paltry selection at his local Michael’s craft store. Finally, Zimmerman’s placement of the words “one nation” physically beneath the word “God” is a clear reference to the grade-school pictograms of Salvador Dali, particularly his famous “Man Overboard.”

Cuomo brought Saltz in to explain “How can someone like this, assuming you believe the worst about George Zimmerman, how could someone ever want art from someone like this?”

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #276)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 11:36 AM

280. That is not The Onion, is it? Too good.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #280)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 11:10 PM

296. I watched it live this morning on CNN

But I missed a lot of his comments since I was

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 11:47 AM

281. The art critic seemed to nail it

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Next the experts that study psychopaths in the prisons will weigh in with comparisons of prison art done by psychopathic criminals convicted some of the most terrible kinds of crimes such as cold blooded murder. But, it does look as though the art critic nailed it.

Zimmerman's mother it seems was the dominant influence down religious avenues up at the top.
Draw a line from God to with than over to all-now you see (God one with all]or reverse that (All in one}. That's Zimmerman's game. Zimmerman no doubt gained much gratification out of saying on television that he thinks it was all part of God's plan. I think Pailn said something to that effect about herself having been selected to run with McCain.Actually I think Zimmerman said that in a fox news interview.

So that gun no doubt gained him a sense of omnipotence.That's that shit eating grin you see.
The art critic didn't hit on Zimmerman at his low points becoming consumed with self pity.What his girl friend calls periods of depression. But in his picture with that ,he is showing you only what he wants you to see. That shit eating grinish smile. {Hay it's me Gee Zee ,see it's an original}Big grin. Imagine now Gee Zee sees himself and a potential buyer being photographed together with Zimmerman's piece-kind of like the sweepstakes thing, you know, Ed Mc Man-Zimmerman holding one side of it ,the buyer the other -Big Grins. There you can imagine Zimmerman rubbing his hands together in glee at the thought of it. And if you think about it,that would have to be Zimmerman's very own PR plan. But the guy that got him off isn't in it though.You see, Zimmerman has and has had his own plan all along.

Again the art critic got it, Zimmerman is heading down -he's going to fall,but he thinks he's climbing high. That's what is odd.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:04 PM

282. Juanita Jean had some fun with this story

http://www.juanitajean.com/2013/12/18/and-with-every-purchase-comes-a-free-act-of-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-115155

Just when you think you’ve seen enough creepy crap to last a lifetime, along comes George Zimmerman (yeah, that guy) and blows the bottom outta creepy.

He selling his “art” on Ebay.

And some dandy art it is. It’s kinda decoupage meets rubber stamps. Kinda Martha Stewart on crack.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:15 PM

283. Small world...nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 12:58 PM

284. So where are Zimmerman's cheerleaders in all of this?

They're usually so quick to show up in these threads....

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:43 PM

290. HA!

CrimeySlimeyZimmey

K&R

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2013, 10:10 PM

297. kick nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2013, 10:35 PM

298. Price dropped $10,000. Lots of retractions! How many more will retract?

This isn't over yet. Two more retractors, and it drops another $15,000.

Bidders: 24
Bids: 96
Time left: 14 hours
Duration: 5 days

Bid retraction and cancellation history:

c***2 Retracted: US $99,666.00
r***r Cancelled: US $98,000.00
9***9 Retracted: US $97,800.00
_***d Cancelled: US $96,200.00
c***t Cancelled: US $97,600.00
t***r Cancelled: US $95,000.00
e***3 Cancelled: US $97,400.00
1***1 Cancelled: US $99,866.00
k***3 Cancelled: US $98,200.00
m***p Cancelled: US $110,000.00
3***e Cancelled: US $98,600.01
c***o Retracted: US $96,400.00

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 12:14 AM

299. oh well

lets just say he took a shot at being an artist and missed.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 02:56 PM

300. Winning bid: US $100,099.99

Hopefully, the money will be donated to Trayvon Martin's family.

It certainly is unjust to make $100,000 dollars for getting away with killing someone.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:34 PM

301. kicked nt

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