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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 08:34 PM Dec 2013

Al Sharpton stops Meet The Press panel from revising the torrid American apartheid stance

NBC’s Meet the Press was very adoring to Nelson Mandela today. In their adoration they were attempting to discount the fact that America was complicit in apartheid survival as long as it did.

Conservatives are attempting to rewrite history. Al Sharpton ensured that all around that table were forced to accept that fact. He ensured that all of those listening were well aware that Conservative stalwarts like Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher did not embrace freedom. They uttered the words but it was just for a select few.

“I think it is a betrayal of history to act as though as Nelson Mandela evolved the world embraced it. There was a real battle in this country,” Al Sharpton said. “So when Randall Robinson and Maxine Waters and Reverend Jackson led that fight … there was major contention. They were attacked for supporting communists. Let’s remember the ANC that he refers to, they were pursuing freedom. Many of the communist nations embraced them. This country did not. So it is not like they were born Marxist. They were born people seeking to be free. Some of the Marxist nations, either genuinely or in a self-interest way, tried to embrace that. This country did not, and fought that, and denounced them, and denigrated them. And I think that for us now to sugarcoat that is a betrayal of history. We chose sides. We chose the wrong side


Later when the Conservative panelist tried to sugarcoat Ronald Reagan’s role in the eventual liberation of South Africa, Al Sharpton would have none of it.

“Let’s be clear. Reagan vetoed, supported vetoing bills. Reagan denounced Mandela, called him names. He evolved after a protest movement here turned the tone and public opinion,” said Al Sharpton. “But let’s not act like Reagan was a major supporter of Mandela and the anti-apartheid movement. It’s just not true.”



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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/08/1261194/-Al-Sharpton-stops-Meet-The-Press-panel-from-revising-the-torrid-American-apartheid-stance
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Al Sharpton stops Meet The Press panel from revising the torrid American apartheid stance (Original Post) kpete Dec 2013 OP
Give 'em hell, Al. JEB Dec 2013 #1
This is why they hate Sharpton, and ALWAYS bring up his failings zbdent Dec 2013 #2
Right. Shoot the messenger if you don't like the message or can't refute the facts. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #8
good for Al... chillfactor Dec 2013 #3
From Think Progress: kpete Dec 2013 #5
Also... ReRe Dec 2013 #11
Saw it!!!! mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2013 #4
Good for the Rev. That said, I can't stand MTP. Saw some other great discussions, tho... Hekate Dec 2013 #6
Republican Borg. They are relentless in their deceit. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #7
And they all have a one-note monotone: Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #9
In some ways it's a beauty to behold. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #18
The latest RW Facebbok meme.... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #24
Now that is the truth. zeemike Dec 2013 #16
It's only a matter of time. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #20
Sharpton on Civil Rights: Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #10
But not as many as rights corporations. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #19
Thank God Al was there to set them straight! n/t ReRe Dec 2013 #12
Too bad it is like... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #25
Good stuff, Rev! Don't let them edit/delete reality. TheKentuckian Dec 2013 #13
You better believe it!! G_j Dec 2013 #14
Shove it right back in their face Rev. Al! n/t hibbing Dec 2013 #15
K&R. (nt) Kurovski Dec 2013 #17
I'm amazed they had him on the panel. Marr Dec 2013 #21
Exactly. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #22
+1 harun Dec 2013 #27
Awesome underpants Dec 2013 #23
Meet the Press has its nose so far up the GOP backside benld74 Dec 2013 #26
Brokaw's acting up! RayStar Dec 2013 #28
The Reverend is goddamned right. nt Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2013 #29
That was cool. Here's the link to the podcast of the episode... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #30

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
2. This is why they hate Sharpton, and ALWAYS bring up his failings
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 08:49 PM
Dec 2013

while minimizing the planks in their eyes ...

Because he holds up the mirror in front of them, and they don't like to see what's in the mirror ...

chillfactor

(7,574 posts)
3. good for Al...
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 08:51 PM
Dec 2013

do not let the rebags try to sugarcoat their way out of their part in history...true history...not their made-up re-write....

kpete

(71,986 posts)
5. From Think Progress:
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 09:50 PM
Dec 2013

a handy timeline showing how conservatives consistently tried to thwart Mandela.
http://thinkprogress.org/home/2013/12/06/3029871/w...

Examples:

1960s:
National Review predicts end of white rule would result in “the collapse of civilization.”

1980s:
Reagan described apartheid South Africa as a “good country.”
Jerry Falwell urges supporters to oppose sanctions.
180 House members opposed free Mandela resolution.
Jack Abramoff leads think tank dedicated to tearing down Mandela.
U.S. Senator testified in support of the apartheid government.

1990s:
Heritage Foundation says Mandela is no “freedom fighter.”
Conservative think tank links Mandela to communists.

2000s:
National Review labels Mandela a “communist” for opposing the Iraq war.
(I got a good chuckle over this one)


http://thinkprogress.org/home/2013/12/06/3029871/wing-timeline-mandela/

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
11. Also...
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 10:35 PM
Dec 2013

... he was on the terrorist watch list in the USA until 2008! (heard on DemocracyNow on Fri.)

Hekate

(90,660 posts)
6. Good for the Rev. That said, I can't stand MTP. Saw some other great discussions, tho...
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 09:55 PM
Dec 2013

... in the first night or two after Mandela passed on.

One of the best was Tavis Smiley's -- I almost cruised past him when I saw who was on and stayed. Harry Belafonte was such a smooth crooner in days gone by that I don't think his many white fans really knew how involved he was in the Civil Rights movement, and how much he supported it financially. His voice is gravelly now, and he's bald -- he looks as smooth and hard as polished oak -- and all his strength and fire shine through. Maxine Waters told how she came to politics against the advice of some of her cohorts, who didn't believe it was worth the effort to "work within the system." She wrote the bill for the anti-apartheid sanctions that finally passed through Congress. When Mandela was freed and apartheid fell, she didn't jump to have the bill repealed -- and one fine day Nelson Mandela telephoned her out of the blue and told her that its continued existence was harming his country and it was time to end it. She said she stammered and stuttered at the encounter, but sure did as he requested. Even bristly Tavis had a story about being a 25 y.o. political aide and having an opportunity to meet Mandela because he was asked to escort Belafonte and Sydney Poitier in to his presence.

Rachel Maddow's bit of history about why Mandela came to Oakland California to talk to a huge crowd was an eyeopener: It wasn't just UC Berkeley students who raised a ruckus against apartheid, it was longshore union workers who raised their voices. Oakland made a real difference.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,000 posts)
9. And they all have a one-note monotone:
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 10:28 PM
Dec 2013

He's a communist!

Obama's a communist!

Environmentalists are communists!

Jesus is a communist! Oops, can't go there.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
24. The latest RW Facebbok meme....
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:35 PM
Dec 2013

has a pic of Mendela and calls him a terrorist and a communist, next to that sniper who recently died calling him a hero, then asks "Guess who Obama ordered flags at half staff for?", or some such drivel. It was one RW too far- I had to boot my cousin.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
16. Now that is the truth.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 11:39 PM
Dec 2013

It won't be long before they will claim him as a free market person...
And welcome to DU...

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
25. Too bad it is like...
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:36 PM
Dec 2013

shovelling sand against a fast moving tide. The propaganda machine is in full swing.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
21. I'm amazed they had him on the panel.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 01:33 AM
Dec 2013

Liberals and civil rights activists have been conspicuously absent from most of these little Reagan Rehab episodes.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
22. Exactly.
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 08:07 AM
Dec 2013

They see anyone that can think for themselves as a threat to the well ordered official narrative.

It is shocking that they even allowed Rev to participate.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
26. Meet the Press has its nose so far up the GOP backside
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 02:50 PM
Dec 2013

it cannot distinguish real odor from pretend GOP induced odor.

RayStar

(417 posts)
28. Brokaw's acting up!
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 04:20 PM
Dec 2013

All tommie brokaw was missing was his theatrical sister peggy noonan.
Thanks to Rev. Al!

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