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Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:34 AM

Santorum: My grades suffered because I was conservative.

"Santorum's Profs Beg to Differ"

http://articles.philly.com/2012-03-11/news/31145518_1_rick-santorum-heinz-campaign-student-body

March 11, 2012|By Karen Heller, Inquirer Columnist

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"I can tell you professor after professor who docked my grades because of the viewpoints I expressed and the papers that I wrote. There's no question that happened," Santorum said. He added: "I used to go to war with some of my professors, who thought I was out of the pale, these are just not proper ideas," noting, "There is clearly a bias at the university."

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"I never received a complaint from any students that a professor had downgraded them because they were conservative and the professor was too liberal, or a student was too liberal with a conservative professor," Robert Friedman told me. He served as chair of the political science department in the late 1970s when Santorum was a student. "Any problem he had with his grades had nothing to do with the fact that he was politically conservative."Friedman said. "He wasn't a very serious student."

"He was an OK student," noted O'Connor, "not great."

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The real story about Rick Santorum's education is this one: "He was telling a story that isn't true," Friedman said. "It's a fantasy," Eisenstein echoed. "You're in a political campaign and you're dealing with people you can get to applaud if you tell stories about people being indoctrinated and liberal professors, but it's not true."




"I was indoctrinated at that Berkeley-esque bastion of liberalism: Penn State. I mean, look at this beard." :jagoffsmilie:

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Reply Santorum: My grades suffered because I was conservative. (Original post)
Richardo Mar 2012 OP
livetohike Mar 2012 #1
Richardo Mar 2012 #6
Systematic Chaos Mar 2012 #2
GopperStopper2680 Mar 2012 #7
denverbill Mar 2012 #3
GopperStopper2680 Mar 2012 #5
alterfurz Mar 2012 #27
GopperStopper2680 Mar 2012 #4
La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2012 #8
TBF Mar 2012 #22
lpbk2713 Mar 2012 #9
lastlib Mar 2012 #31
Enrique Mar 2012 #10
liberal N proud Mar 2012 #11
wandy Mar 2012 #12
Happyhippychick Mar 2012 #13
Aerows Mar 2012 #14
Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2012 #15
Liberal Veteran Mar 2012 #16
Richardo Mar 2012 #18
n2doc Mar 2012 #17
get the red out Mar 2012 #19
Arkana Mar 2012 #20
Mariana Mar 2012 #21
aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2012 #23
Viking12 Mar 2012 #24
NYC Liberal Mar 2012 #25
PRETZEL Mar 2012 #26
gauguin57 Mar 2012 #28
yellowcanine Mar 2012 #29
Sheepshank Mar 2012 #30
Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #34
Taverner Mar 2012 #32
Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #33

Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:44 AM

1. LOL @ jagoffsmilie



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Response to livetohike (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:47 AM

6. I used to have a link to one!

yinzer!

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:45 AM

2. No, my little frothy cretin; your grades suffered...

...because you have the critical thinking skills of a rotten Crenshaw melon and you couldn't write your way out of a wad of wet toilet paper.

Now suck it up and go play with your dead fetus in a jar.

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Response to Systematic Chaos (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:48 AM

7. You just made my day

 

Thanks Systematic Chaos. That post just improved my morale massively. I mean, you would expect somebody that brings home a dead baby and spends all day playing with it and kissing it to be a lofty intelligence wouldn't you, after all?

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:45 AM

3. His grades DID suffer because he's a conservative.

Because it's generally proven that conservatives have lower IQs.

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Response to denverbill (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:47 AM

5. LOL

 

The rich tend to be plenty smart at making and spending money, but very little else.

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Response to denverbill (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:47 AM

27. "Conservatives are not necessarily stupid...

...but most stupid people are conservatives." -- John Stuart Mill

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:46 AM

4. Most likely...

 

He got low grades because he was a dummy. It's evident in his campaign and if he studied like he campaigns then of course he got bad grades. And he'll probably flunk out of the campaign too. That just leaves Romney....

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:49 AM

8. is conservative code for idiot?

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:37 AM

22. Yes.

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:50 AM

9. Admit it --- They saw through your bullshit at an early age.






"WAAAH!! No fair!!"







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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 12:28 PM

31. Bush's Law: "A politician will be successful in direct proportion...

...to his ability to convince a majority of voters that the bullshit he is feeding them is actually whipped cream."
--George H.W. ("the First") Bush

"And Howdy!"
--George W. ("the Lesser") Bush

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:51 AM

10. making shit up doesn't go over well with professors

maybe that wasn't as much of an issue for him in law school, I wouldn't know, but in college they frown on that. In politics, of course it's no issue at all. Constituents love hearing bullshit from politicians.

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:52 AM

11. You are not goning to do well if you do not accept the facts as facts

That is most likely his problem with higher eduction and the reason he wants to kill education.

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:52 AM

12. Although this whining about liberal professors and being victimized plays to his base...

Blaming someone or something else for their own problems is typical of self righteous turkeys like santorum.
I am holey. How could anything be wrong with me, the world is out to get me because I holey. And on and on.....

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:58 AM

13. Oh SNAP! Ricky gets pwned!

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:06 AM

14. They probably

gave him bad grades for bad ideas because he's FULL of bad ideas. The very first one is the idea that going to college is a bad thing.

I'm going to go with the notion that most professors at colleges and Universities who make their living educating people and whom are educated themselves are going to disagree with that position.

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:08 AM

15. I guess you could say he found himself in a sticky situation. nt

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:12 AM

16. I'm sure his conservative views hurt his algebra scores.

Math professors are well known for their liberal activism.

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Response to Liberal Veteran (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:22 AM

18. Al-jebr is a tool of Islam!!!1!!

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:15 AM

17. So why didn't the jagoff go to a fundy school?

Where he would have been welcomed? Guy has always been a tool....

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:32 AM

19. Bias against ignorance maybe

I'd bet the professors said their classes were "So easy a cave-man could do it" and Santorum screamed "YOU LIE".

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:34 AM

20. No, Rick, your grades suffered because you were a shitty student.

I went to a very conservative Catholic college, and I took plenty of classes with professors with different viewpoints than me--none of them ever docked my grades. It doesn't happen.

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:35 AM

21. Obviously, everyone in this story is lying, except Santorum.

Because they're all in on this huge conspiracy to oppress conservatives (and, Santorum implies, Christians) and deprive them of their rightful, earned grades because of their political (and religious) views. Republicans fervently believe that this conspiracy exists.

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:39 AM

23. His term paper on the variety of dinosaur Jesus rode upon

probably received unfairly harsh criticism from his history prof. You gotta Santo at least this one, no?

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:41 AM

24. Denying evolution and climate change isn't just a "viewpoint"

It is a clear indication of an inability to examine evidence and draw a logical conclusion. Those topics alone explain your low grades, oh frothy one.

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:42 AM

25. I had some righty professors and I'd never have blamed them for my own bad grades.

"Personal responsibility"...it's that what conservatives have been preaching?

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:44 AM

26. Hey Ricky,

guess what, I was a year behind you. Thankfully I don't remember you at all and if I did know you back then, I'm glad I forgot.

However, I will say this. All my professors there were only concerned about one thing. Fiction in a political science course is not acceptable. I spent more hours in the library sourcing my work.

Did you even know where the library is?

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:56 AM

28. I was at PSU at the same time as Santorum; I had one of those profs for poli sci, too ...

... and I can guarantee Santorum is full of it.

I've had only two professors in all my undergrad and grad work who have continually inserted their political opinion into the classroom ... and, guess what? They were both conservatives. There was a sociology prof at PSU who use to compare abortion providers to Nazis. I had an English prof at another school who wanted to slam Charles Darwin and the theory of evolution all the time.

I had one of the poli sci profs quoted in the article as an instructor, and I can attest that he didn't "indoctrinate" us in any way, shape or form.

I've been hearing from a bunch of people who also were at Penn State at the same time, and they said Ricky Boy was a pot head. I have no direct evidence; I didn't know the dude.

Perhaps he was "docked" because he was too bleary-eyed to do his school work (as many of us were in the 1970s!).

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 12:00 PM

29. "He wasn't a very serious student."

And still isn't.

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 12:09 PM

30. You cannot walk into class

and spout other wordly mystical biblical stuff and hope the teacher will re-vamp the curriculum to accomodate. Just.won't.happen.

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #30)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 12:36 PM

34. They have a rather hard time getting REALITY in general to accomodate them

but they damn sure are trying! The way the world works just isn't the way they think it can (or should).

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 12:31 PM

32. Gimmie a break, frothy lube man....

 

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Response to Richardo (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 12:34 PM

33. Another "personal responsibility" fail

from a person belonging to a group that basically believes that we could all easily become bazillionaires if only...................

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