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Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:10 PM

"Women Are Not An Interest Group"



http://theobamadiary.com/2013/11/28/thank-you-13/#comments

Thanks Obama!

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Reply "Women Are Not An Interest Group" (Original post)
Cha Nov 2013 OP
KitSileya Nov 2013 #1
Renew Deal Nov 2013 #2
loli phabay Nov 2013 #3
KitSileya Nov 2013 #4
nolabear Nov 2013 #13
Cha Nov 2013 #6
sheshe2 Nov 2013 #16
Cha Nov 2013 #21
sheshe2 Nov 2013 #22
Cha Nov 2013 #23
Major Nikon Nov 2013 #29
auntsue Nov 2013 #8
Cha Nov 2013 #11
LeftyMom Nov 2013 #20
Cha Nov 2013 #5
bettyellen Nov 2013 #26
xulamaude Nov 2013 #27
Skittles Nov 2013 #7
calimary Nov 2013 #9
Skittles Nov 2013 #10
blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #12
Cha Nov 2013 #14
TBF Nov 2013 #15
sheshe2 Nov 2013 #17
ithinkmyliverhurts Nov 2013 #18
LeftyMom Nov 2013 #19
MadrasT Nov 2013 #24
bettyellen Nov 2013 #25
AlbertCat Nov 2013 #28
burnsei sensei Nov 2013 #30
Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #31
iandhr Nov 2013 #32
felix_numinous Nov 2013 #33

Response to Cha (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:12 PM

1. They are only relevant if they have a family.

Thanks for that, Mr. President.

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Response to KitSileya (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:15 PM

2. True

Every woman has a family. They are all someone's daughter. Therefore they are all important.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:16 PM

3. good point, i look at it that everyone is important.

 

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:21 PM

4. I am just so sick and tired of the President referring to women by kinship ties.

They're always wives and mothers, sometimes with daughters and sisters thrown in. Some of us aren't married, have no children or siblings, and a fair few of us do not want to be defined by our relationship with our parents, as those were abusive relationships. Women are perfectly capable of making their own health care choices regardless of their families. It's inherent in our humanity - not in our gender.

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Response to KitSileya (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 06:54 PM

13. But this is a statement, made to people, reminding them that it's personal.

I don't think he's negating women's independent identities. At other times he's used other terms. But if you're trying to make a connection, then saying "There's a woman that's directly a part of your life" is the way to reach the most people.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:30 PM

6. Yes, every woman does have a family and all women

are included in the President's statement. So refreshing to have a President who respects women.

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Response to Cha (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:55 PM

16. I don't see why the point is being made from some that they are being left out, Cha.

Women...that is all of us. "Women" that is a broad term. We don't have to be married with children to be part of that statement.

I for one am divorced with no children. The President speaks for me, he does not discriminate.

Cha!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 11:50 PM

21. Amen, sistah!

All Women~

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Response to Cha (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 11:56 PM

22. Will answer you more tomorrow.

Black Friday looms, I have to be in at 9...the crazies will be out in record numbers. Gotta sleep now.

Happy Thanksgiving, we have so much to be thankful for.

Cha....Women~

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #22)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 02:34 AM

23. Good Luck on the retail sales end of

Black Friday, she!

Talked to Tim earlier and he said he had to get to bed early because he had to be up at 4am. I said wow! And, then he told me he wanted to get to Home Depot when they opened their doors at 5am. He gets his tools there every year and saves $$$$. Especially this year he wants a saw for the house he'll be building and it's $399 regularly and $199 tomorrow. What sane person wouldn't want to save that kind of money for his livelyhood tools?

More Respect for Women~ Thanks Obama


3. Thank you for putting two qualified and outstanding women on the Supreme Court.

More to be thankful for, she~ We Rock~
http://theobamadiary.com/2013/11/28/a-thanksgiving-rise-and-shine-50-thank-yous-to-the-president/

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 12:08 PM

29. We should remember this is just a cutaway from a speech

Obama repeated similar statements on the campaign trail in 2012. By "women are not an interest group" he is countering the notion that these issues are not just coming from women's advocacy groups. So rather than excluding those like you, I take it to mean he is including all the rest of the women who may not feel as if those advocacy groups represent their interests. So I agree that he is not trying to discriminate.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:49 PM

8. are men relevant only

because they are someone's son? I applaud the President for his inclusiveness ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but I am relevant because of my humanity.
My parents have passed away ....Is my relevance determined due to the fact that I have a male sibling? Would I have values if all my kin had died? I think that is what those who are objecting are talking about.

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Response to auntsue (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 05:11 PM

11. My parents have passed away too.. but, I'm still their daughter. I

know the President meant to include all Women in his statement.

We're All Perfectly Capable of Making our Own Choices About Our Health.

But, since there are those who don't feel they're included.. it might be a good idea to write to the President and let him know that he's not covering all Women like he thought he was. Who knows, he might word it differently in the future?

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 11:05 PM

20. Are orphans important?

How about adult women whose parents are long gone?

Women are important because they're people. Not because they're costars in a man's life.

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Response to KitSileya (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:26 PM

5. Yes, all women all relevant because we're all someone's daughter,

Thanks President Obama!

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 10:41 AM

26. That's not the reason I am relevant- not by a long shot

But thanks.

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Response to KitSileya (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 10:50 AM

27. Yes, politically women only exist

 

in relation to someone else.

If you hadn't I would have

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:47 PM

7. WE ARE OVER HALF THE POPULATION

YES INDEED

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Response to Skittles (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:58 PM

9. YES INDEED.

Indeed. I think it's about time we started acting like it.

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Response to calimary (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 05:00 PM

10. I am pretty sure I already do

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 06:53 PM

12. Nice speech.

Now let's see some action.

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 08:01 PM

14. This is the Way President Obama feels about it.. that doesn't mean

the obstructionist GOP is going to stop their WAR ON WOMEN.

That will come from Voting the bums out in 2014!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 09:44 PM

15. K&R

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 10:56 PM

17. Kick!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 11:01 PM

18. So then neither are men.

If both are true--i.e., that neither women nor men are interest groups--then where did all these interest groups come from?

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 11:03 PM

19. Defining women by our relationships to other people is not okay.

Nobody has to defend men's body integrity by saying that they're fathers, brothers and sons. They're people and their rights are assumed.

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 09:37 AM

24. +1000

We are not important because of my relationships to men. This is awful, just awful.

Jesus.

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 10:40 AM

25. +2000

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:27 AM

28. Slightly MORE than half of this country

Men die younger.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 12:12 PM

30. I despise and reject every valuation of my humanity

that is based on kinship.
The woman
In herself
Has a worth apart from
her job
her family
her friends
her community
her nation, and
that cannot be counted,
that is human.
It will be respected, regardless of what you say or think, Mr. President et al.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 12:14 PM

31. Such bull. Women are an Interest group, everyone is an interest group,

when it comes down to it. If you are looking out for your particular interests (and everyone one does) either micro or macro your an interest group. I am an interest group. I belong to a subsection of society that is progressives.

It's just Human society. What is the problem with that?

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 02:09 PM

32. HERE HERE

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 02:33 PM

33. We are all human beings first

who are all related, like it or not. Equal human sovereign rights laws need to be worded in such a way so that no group can usurp, subdivide or subjugate another.

But lawmakers have to be MADE to do this by the people--to give up dividing and conquering us--which is one of their major tools of manipulation.

A new 21st Century ERA needs to be drafted to include all sexual orientations--to settle this once and for all.

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