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Tue Nov 26, 2013, 08:07 AM

The end of the needless wars?



Obama Signals a Shift From Military Might to Diplomacy

WASHINGTON — The weekend ended with the first tangible sign of a nuclear deal with Iran, after more than three decades of hostility. Then on Monday came the announcement that a conference will convene in January to try to broker an end to the civil war in Syria.

The success of either negotiation, both long sought by President Obama, is hardly assured — in fact the odds may be against them. But the two nearly simultaneous developments were vivid statements that diplomacy, the venerable but often-unsatisfying art of compromise, has once again become the centerpiece of American foreign policy.

At one level, the flurry of diplomatic activity reflects the definitive end of the post-Sept. 11 world, dominated by two major wars and a battle against Islamic terrorism that drew the United States into Afghanistan and still keeps its Predator drones flying over Pakistan and Yemen.

But it also reflects a broader scaling-back of the use of American muscle, not least in the Middle East, as well as a willingness to deal with foreign governments as they are rather than to push for new leaders that better embody American values. “Regime change,” in Iran or even Syria, is out; cutting deals with former adversaries is in.

For Mr. Obama, the shift to diplomacy fulfills a campaign pledge from 2008 that he would stretch out a hand to America’s enemies and speak to any foreign leader without preconditions. But it will also subject him to considerable political risks, as the protests about the Iran deal from Capitol Hill and allies in the Middle East attest.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/26/world/middleeast/longer-term-deal-with-iran.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20131126&_r=0

We can only hope that this is becomes the way we deal with international crisis and we end the needless bombing others into submission.


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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Tue Nov 26, 2013, 08:13 AM

1. There will never be an end to any kind of wars

as long as there are any religions left.

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Response to clydefrand (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 26, 2013, 10:14 AM

4. "There will never be an end to any kind of wars as long as there are any religions left."

Atheists are perfectly capable of waging war; including the pointless, power-mongering sort. Wars are waged for power. If they are often cloaked in religion but any power paradigm will suffice.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Tue Nov 26, 2013, 09:41 AM

2. Wishful thinking

A bad headline (is their such a thing as a "needed" war?) and a whole lot of conjecture over subtle differences. As long as the State Department continues to be headed by people who run around the world advocating FOR military action, we'll continue to be a country that plans for war and hopes for peace. One can't help but suspect that the efforts in both Iran and Syria are because they don't see a military path to a solution, not because of some new found commitment to peace and diplomacy.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Tue Nov 26, 2013, 10:04 AM

3. As long as the MIC holds power and Americans have something abroad to be scared of

There will continue to be needless wars.

The deal with Iran is a good step, but if history is any guide, we are still going to reap the consequences of our actions over the past two decades.

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