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PRESS RELEASE: Racketeering Romney Lawsuit Becomes Official November 6th

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Many a naysay, oppenent, detractor and/or supporter/voter for Mitt Romney pompously stated that the Racketeering Mitt Romney case would never be filed. Then they said it would never see light of day; finding fault with the initial Romney RICO Complaint being a rant.

Turns out there's no Code & Rule of Law against ranting in one's initial civil complaint; especially when the allegations therein are true.

It is now OFFICIAL

- the Racketeering Lawsuit of Laser Haas v Mitt Romney is going forward.





Haas v Romney
Case# 2:13-cv-7738
Federal District Court
Central Division - Spring Street
County of Los Angeles



PRESS RELEASE


1st Amended Complaint Filed in Romney Rico Litigation
By Collateral Logistics, Inc.,
CEO Steven (“Laser”) Haas (laser.haas@yahoo.com)
November 6, 2013

Los Angeles – On Romney’s 1st Anniversary of his POTUS loss, a foe (Laser Steven Haas owner of eToys Collateral Logistics, Inc., {“CLI”}) filed an illuminating 1st Amended Complaint in the Los Angeles Federal District Court; which issued a “New Case Order” and specific instructions for the RICO trial. Laser Haas originally sued Romney for $100 million on October 18, 2013 for Racketeering Kay Bee, Stage Stores, Learning Company & eToys.

Nature of Proceeding

The case, initially held up several days for review, is now formally titled “HAAS v ROMNEY” and is assigned docket number 2:13-cv-07738 in the Los Angeles Division of Federal Dist. Ct.

Concerning Romney’s tenure as CEO of Bain Capital in 2001, CLI’s CEO Haas 1st Amended Complaint claims to clarify some of the mystery behind Mitt’s “retroactivity” lies upon Romney’s sworn under Penalty of Perjury Fed Election Campaign Finance OGE 278 Form.

Civil Racketeering complaints permit a citizen plaintiff to become a “Private Attorney General” to address federal corruption issues that create “Prosecutorial Gaps”. Plaintiff Haas claims prosecution gaps immensely exist. The 1st Amended Complaint reveals details of possible federal corruption concerning Bain Capital’s MNAT law firm arranging for one of their own (Colm F Connolly) to become the Delaware United States Attorney on August 2, 2001.

Summons Issued for Mitt Romney, Sachs, Colm Connolly, Michael Glazer, Paul Traub and Bain Capital

Summons's have been issued for Goldman Sachs (accused of fraud in eToys IPO & Bankruptcy case), Bain Capital (acquired Kay Bee in 2000) and Michael Glazer (CEO of Stage Stores and Kay Bee that acquired eToys) and eToys CEO Barry Gold (Glazer’s director’s assistant at Stage Stores). Along with Paul Traub who confessed his secret partnership with Barry Gold. Also partners with Paul Traub is convicted fraudster Marc Dreier and Ponzi schemer Tom Petters. During the election quest, Traub was named as “controller” of Petters Ponzi. Noteworthy is the fact that Former U.S. Attorney Colm Connolly is called a Co-Defendant for blocking prosecutions of Goldman Sachs & Romney’s Bain Capital.





Romney's actions speak louder than his Flip Flopping words;
such as his stating (on camera) that No One goes after short term business.

Mitt is a "boss" Racketeer;
and the proof is about to be known!

Lawrence O'Donnell shows in this video;
what the real skinny of Mitt Romney's Bain Capital goals







UPDATE November 8, 2013 - 7:00 a.m. Pacific




For those who care about the facts - I'm going to present some informative pieces about RICO in next threads. Meanwhile, if anyone would like to, you may look upon Chevron's Racketeering Complaint that is well over 100 pages too; but is done in 12 point font and utilizing footnotes single spaced. If it did its footnotes as complaint points double spaced and 14 Point Font (as is required by Los Angeles Court LOCAL RULES) - then the Chevron Complaint would make my Romney complaint pale in comparison.

http://www.chevron.com/documents/pdf/ecuador/StampedComplaint.pdf







Wikipedia on Racketeering - Explaining the Fact it is about Conspiracies by Attorneys at Law




- - Many a detractor in the comments below, are attempting to assuage you from curiosity and any hope of justice under the pretense that - because I'm going this alone, there's no truth to the tale!

Fortunately, the commenting bad faith parties are not the jury; and this case, G-d willing and justice permitting, is going to be a jury trial. As such, and because it is a "Civil" RICO case, I'm not required to provide proof beyond All reasonable doubt (though I CAN do so). The standard of proof and conviction is "preponderance of the evidence" (except in legal issues of Fed.R.Civ.P 9(b) - Mail/Wire Fraud - where I have to give EXACT dates/times - {AND I'm able to do that easily; because they did so in bankruptcy court with time/date stamps}).

Here is Wikipedia explaining Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations {"RICO"} ACT of 1970



Although some of the RICO predicate acts are extortion and blackmail, one of the most successful applications of the RICO laws has been the ability to indict or sanction individuals for their behavior and actions committed against witnesses and victims in alleged retaliation or retribution for cooperating with federal law enforcement or intelligence agencies.

Violations of the RICO laws can be alleged in civil lawsuit cases or for criminal charges. In these instances charges can be brought against individuals or corporations in retaliation for said individuals or corporations working with law enforcement. Further, charges can also be brought against individuals or corporations who have sued or filed criminal charges against a defendant.

Anti-SLAPP (strategic lawsuit against public participation) laws can be applied in an attempt to curb alleged abuses of the legal system by individuals or corporations who utilize the courts as a weapon to retaliate against whistle blowers, victims, or to silence another's speech. RICO could be alleged if it can be shown that lawyers and/or their clients conspired and collaborated to concoct fictitious legal complaints solely in retribution and retaliation for themselves having been brought before the courts.




The Morris Nichols Arsht & Tunnell ("MNAT") law firm is openly representing Bain Capital concerning the $83 million that Michael Glazer paid Bain (when he also paid himself an $18 million dollar bribe) - during the same time that MNAT is represent eToys in the sales of eToys public company and bankruptcy estate assets to Bain/ Kay Bee.

That is a CRIME!

When this was discovered and reported by yours truly;
MNAT responded by stealing my money in Retaliation.

Retaliation against a victim/witness is a Racketeering Crime!

Bankruptcy Fraud is a Racketeering Crime!

The way MNAT stole my life savings and the inheritance of my children/grand children;
is that Greg Werkheiser submitted a forgery to the court purportedly signed by me.

After MNAT had already CONFESSED lying under oath to the court 15 times;
Greg Werkheiser told the court that I "waived" my rights to $3.7 million in fees & expenses.

Then, an MNAT partner who worked with Greg Werkheiser on the case (Colm Connolly);
was arranged to become the Delaware United States Attorney on August 2, 2001.

Romney claims he retired from Bain Capital in August 2001;
back to February 11, 1999 - "retroactively".

Could Al Capone "retroactively" retire from his organized crimes?

OF course not!

Can MNAT benefit from not being prosecuted for confessing to Perjury in federal court;
because an MNAT partner (Colm Connolly) was made to become the U.S. Attorney

who then buried the case from investigation and/or prosecution for 7 years?

Of course not!







All bad faith parties who want to brown nose Romney & his Gang;
avoid these facts that are irrefutable (public docket records).

Please don't let them get away with it;
because they are mean, hateful and have veiled agendas?






Proof that MNAT works (secretly) for Goldman Sachs
(that took eToys public for $85 per share; but eToys got less than $20)
MNAT confessed the secret years later in 2005 during Deposition
http://petters-fraud.com/MNAT_deposition_Feb9_2005.pdf


Proof that yours truly is the one who pointed out the CRIME fact
MNAT works for Bain (that owns Kay Bee)
and Paul Traub (who worked for Romney and Glazer at Stage Stores)
wanted to be the one to Prosecute Glazer and Bain $100 million fraud
and eToys was sold to Bain/ Kay Bee with MNAT reducing prices.
http://petters-fraud.com/ClockedCopyHAASmotionKBcaseMisPrisionFelony.pdf


Proof that the Delaware Dept of Justice had that evidence Stricken/Expunged from the record
http://petters-fraud.com/KenneyKB_Obstruction_2228.pdf




MNAT also (illegally) sought for the evidence in eToys to be destroyed;
like Romney did in the Olympics and Governors computer hard drives.
http://petters-fraud.com/MNAT_Motion_Destruction_Books_n_Records.pdf

So, I ask you - how is it that the naysayers claim there's NO Merits to the case?

If these facts are not merit enough - then perhaps proof that Romney's MNAT law firm;
had one of their own arranged to become U.S. Attorney - is the nail in the coffin of BS.

Colm Connolly was a partner of MNAT from 1999 to August 2001;
and then he became the United States Attorney on August 2, 2001.

Romney claims to be "retroactively" retired from Bain as CEO (when the crimes occurred)
from August 2001; back to February 11, 1999.

Here's the Federal Governments permanent ARCHIVE of Colm Connolly's Resume.
http://www.justice.gov/archive/olp/colmconnollyresume.htm




I'm just sayin......................

Its schemes they be a playin.................


N'est-ce pas!






UPDATE



Links to Court "Clocked" Copies of Amended Complaint.

http://petters-fraud.com/haas_v_romney_1st_amended_complaint_nov6_2013_timestamped_part1.pdf

http://petters-fraud.com/haas_v_romney_1st_amended_complaint_nov6_2013_timestamped_part2.pdf

http://petters-fraud.com/haas_v_romney_1st_amended_complaint_nov6_2013_timestamped_part3.pdf










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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:12 AM

1. Good luck! We're rooting for you!


There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.

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Response to randome (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:18 AM

3. +1

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Response to Scuba (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:26 AM

6. Thanks 'Scuba'

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Response to Scuba (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:32 PM

141. May justice be served by the rule of law prevailing

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Response to indepat (Reply #141)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:40 PM

145. AMEN to THAT!

I wish for nothing more.

Will accept Nothing Less!

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Response to randome (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:23 AM

4. Thanks. Please root (and pray) that I live long enough to go to trial

The evidence is too overwhelming, profuse and irrefutable;
they CAN"T permit this to go to trial.

  1. Only 25% settlement chance (too dumb to settle so far - don't expect smarts now)
  2. 25% Corruption will get case tossed (or forced back to corrupt DE realm)
  3. 20% Chance Feds will wake up and see Billions of $ in Criminal RICO begging
  4. 30% Odds that the messenger will be nixed to quash the message





G-d and his universe got me this far;
in a battle of an amoeba vs a horde of Goliath's.

We'll see!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:33 PM

93. Best of luck laserhaas

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:07 PM

136. 100% chance that motions to dismiss will be made. 100% chance they will be granted, with

 

the final one resulting in an order of dismissal without leave to amend.

100% chance that you will consider an appeal.

100% chance that you will be back claiming that there are naysayers.

On the other hand, if no sanctions are imposed on your and your get publicity, who cares?

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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #136)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:11 PM

138. It would be unlawful to order a dismissal without leave to amend

as for appeal - already prepared (as any prudent person should be)

While your remark about naysay - is the pot calling the cackle????

And obviously, you care enough to try to help the bad guys defeat the message.

Don't wish you success with that bad faith effort....

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #138)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:38 PM

143. Actually, "bad guys" are persons who unnecessarily clog the court system and deprive people with

 

conventional, meritorious cases from going forward in an expeditious manner.

There are bona fide lawsuits involving Civil Rights violations, labor law violations, etc. Yours isn't one of them. That much can be seen from looking at the complaint.

So you are now celebrating that your original complaint is not going forward and you've been allowed to file your first Amended Complaint. Soon, if Judge Wilson is not amused to the point where he will simply allow your case to go forward for a while before dismissing it without leave to amend, you'll have another chance to celebrate.

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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #143)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:43 PM

147. Eaaaannnntttt! Wrong again typo pen! Bad guys/gals are ones who join the mob of bullies

to beat up on a victim; with the veiled agenda of helping career crooks get away with organized crimes!

N'est-ce pas!

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Response to randome (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:21 AM

22. This will not end well.

He's already been barred from MD courts as a vexatious litigant. He misrepresents his role in the eToys BK and his claims of being cheated are nothing more than his own oversights biting him in the butt. Basically his complaint is a rambling, incoherent mess of grandiose claims with no testable substance. His website and "graphics" are the sort of hot mess one finds when dealing with obsessed personality disorders. He needs help, not DU recs.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:26 AM

23. That's the problem with you naysays. Can't get facts straight in your hell bent

desire to destroy the message.

Case was never in MD (Maryland court)

And your the one that needs help - as you haven't yet gotten the memo/message - your guy

Romney - Didn't Make It!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:05 PM

35. Romney wasn't my guy and your claims have been thoroughly

researched and debunked on dailykos, RW bastion that it is.

You need to step back and stop obsessing. This is self-destructive.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:04 PM

76. Romney was your guy.

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:47 PM

46. The term is 'naysayers'

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Response to Richardo (Reply #46)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:17 PM

58. :) - I stand spell corrected...

Core wecht lee

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #58)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:51 PM

70. "word corrected", it wasn't a spelling issue just the wrong word completely

FYI

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:20 PM

38. When you pick a fact and offer something valid to the contrary, I'll discuss it with you

Until then - considered yourself as No 1 on the full of bull out to destroy the messenger list

and forevermore - Ignored for your ignorance.

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #38)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:00 PM

49. A compilation of posts from myself and others

My curiosity has been piqued so I've been casually poking around for additional info

This is an outside media article on the initial case --

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/business/news/etoys-investors-claim-conflict-at-law-firm-592819/

It's also made mention in the WSJ. So there's there there, just how much is the question.

Since then Mr. Haas, who apparently files court documents using his superhero name, has produced/utilized other resources --

http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Steven-Haas/1354174894

If I understand this correctly the above link was a pleading filed in New York --

71. TBF's power center to get willfully blind justice in Delaware cannot have reached here in NY...


As of this writing I am unaware of the disposition of this particular case, I only have my assumptions. Still, the pleading at the link is a glowing tribute to undefined complaints written in an untidy amalgam of pseudo-legalese and street vernacular. I beg you, please read it.

And then this ties in, somehow --

The Goal of this Website now - is to assist Tom Petters get a new trial and see to it that the Racketeering evidence of Goldman Sachs, Bain Capital and Paul Traub’s duplicity in the Petters, Fingerhut, Polaroid (and eToys cases) are punished by a Racketeering indictment

http://petters-fraud.com/



One would think that after being on the case for a decade or so a little editing would have come into play. I think the website speaks for itself. Again, please, see for yourself.



A less "busy" and less advocacy-minded summation of Le Affaire d' Petters --

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Petters


BTW -- his press release states he is CEO of Collateral Logistics, Inc. but every reference to CLI I can find outside of this case show CLI as inactive and having no named officers --

http://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Santa-Clarita/collateral-logistics-inc/43407676.aspx

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From DUer jberryhill --

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/30/1242491/-U-S-Trustee-Motion-v-Paul-Traub-Slapping-Wrist-of-Perjury-Fraud


CLI didn't file its claims properly. CLI failed to hire a lawyer, which is required because a corporation has to be represented by a lawyer in bankruptcy court. Because CLI didn't follow the rules, CLI didn't get paid what you thought it should have been paid.

You, as owner and officer of CLI, blew it.

So you've cooked up conspiracy theory in which you play a lead role so that you can claim you were victimized by Bain, Romney, Goldman Sachs, and their law firms.

I've read the relevant court documents. Whatever shenanigans MNAT and Traub were engaged in--and they were forced by the court to disgorge fees--are irrelevant to your postion, because you and CLI screwed up.

Get over yourself.


From the docket of DE BK Bankruptcy Petition #: 01-00706-MFW

12/06/2012
(3 pgs) Order DENYING Motion of Steven Haas and it is FURTHER ORDERED that any future pleadings filed by Mr. Haas in this case shall be deemed STRICKEN and returned without docketing (related document(s)2478, 2481, 2484, 2485, 2486) Order Signed on 12/6/2012. (CAF) (Entered: 12/06/2012)


WHEREAS, to the extent that the Haas Motion is a claim on behalf of Mr. Haas as an individual, that claim is barred because it was filed almost a decade after the Bar Date and Mr. Haas has been actively involved in this case and never asserted any individual claim; and

WHEREAS, Mr. Haas’ numerous filings in this case are repetitive, without merit, and border on harassment; and

WHEREAS, pursuant to the All Writs Act, the Court has the power to bar further pleadings by Mr. Haas in these
circumstances, see 28 U.S.C. § 1651(a); United States v. Gomez-Rosario, 418 F.3d 90, 101 (1st Cir. 2005) (holding that courts have the ability to enjoin a pro se party from filing frivolous and vexatious pleadings); Shafii v. British Airways, PLC, 83 F.3d 566, 571 (2d Cir. 1996) (noting that an injunction is appropriate where a litigant engages in filing of repetitive and frivolous lawsuits); Cok v. Fam. Ct., 985 F.2d 32, 34 (1st Cir. 1993) (“Federal courts plainly possess discretionary powers to regulate the conduct of abusive litigants.”); In re Oliver, 682 F.2d 443, 445 (3d Cir. 1982) (holding that an injunction restricting filings was necessary where the pleadings constituted a continuous pattern of groundless and vexatious litigation); therefore, it is hereby


ORDERED

that the Haas Motion is DENIED; and it is further

ORDERED

that any further pleadings filed by Mr. Haas in this case shall be deemed stricken; and it is further

ORDERED

that the Clerk’s Office is hereby directed to return, without docketing, any further pleadings which Mr. Haas may file in this case.

There is a festival of fun in that case, and in several others, including the one where it finally got through to him that in order to appear as a corporate party, he needed to hire a lawyer. His lawyer shortly thereafter petitioned to be excused because he was driving the lawyer bananas.

So, since he can't file anything in the DE bankruptcy court anymore, he picked up the show and filed this new hot mess in California which, if you read the minimally coherent bits of it, is largely premised on not getting what he wanted out of the court in Delaware.

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I went to your link and clicked on his username to see his profile --


laserhaas's Profile

Fighting Bain & Goldman Sachs, their attorneys and duplicitous federal agents because no one else will. A series of battles that has thrusted my enemies to include a Presidential wannabe. A lonely place - but a very opportune 1!

Real Name: Laser the Liquidator

DOB: 10-31-19sumthin

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Occupation: Get Bain & Goldman Sachs Investigated

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Home Page: http://www.laserhaas.wordpress.com

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"Laser the Liquidator"

I trying to imagine if that is with or without a cape.

Anyway, about half way down you see the link for his homepage -- http://www.laserhaas.wordpress.com

So, I went to his homepage. In the masthead he quotes the Declaration of Independence. No real harm in that except the passage he selected is rather...militant --

When a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.


It seems "troubling" that a person seeking judicial relief has an unction to armed revolutionary action.

================

Then I started to have serious misgivings about your well being --


This is no longer fun. The more I read of his writings and bizarre organizational charts the more convinced I am that we are dealing with an obsessive personality with delusions of grandeur and feelings of persecution. I honestly, honestly worry he may not accept the inevitable peacefully.

But the Delaware Department of Justice and Federal Court’s are damnation bent to break all Laws and Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, destroying the Public’s faith in the integrity of the Judicial Process.

For the sake of cronyism, tyranny and corruption to protect MNAT and its clients.

As a result – the Dept of Justice rogue elements have broken the Law so profusely and docket record substantiated overwhelmingly – that MNAT’s secret clients Goldman Sachs and BAIN are getting away with organized crime.


UPDATE Aug 31, 2011

WARNING – there are rogue elements within the Dept of Justice – seeking to subvert the Constitution of the United States for veiled agendas sake – contrary to Congressional Law! During his tenure at the Delaware Department of Justice, US Attorney Colm Connolly’s office repeatedly declined to investigate and prosecute the MNAT law firm.


Keep in mind, Haas' only role in this was to provide transportation and security for the as yet unsold assets of eToys, i.e. product and later office furniture. In other words, he was to hire and administrate the elderly security guard napping at the warehouse every night as well as procure the occasional moving van.

Kossack, VetGrl, has an excellent summation -- http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1167910/48680260#c39

But this has been gnawing at him for over a decade. He has lied about his role in the eToys liquidation and is saying that the rule of law has been so deeply subverted with veiled agendas he's quoting the Declaration of Independence about the duty of throwing off the bonds of government.

And for what?

A website that sold Bob the Builder toys and ant farms. That's what all this is about. This is the deepest deep conspiracy that almost ruled the US that is worthy of a James A. Michener novel.

People need to stop cheering this. He doesn't need applause, he needs help and those who are egging him on my soon find they have cheered for a tremendous tragedy.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #49)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:09 PM

52. Very illuminating

Thanks.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #49)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:01 PM

73. Damn that's almost a B movie by itself!

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:10 PM

53. +1000


You are bang on correct. Although it was the DE federal bankruptcy court which barred him from filing as a vexatious litigant.

A good chunk of this "complaint", such as it is, relates to the DE court proceedings which, as you probably know, cannot be challenged in a CA court.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:09 PM

137. Maybe the judge will help him with some Rule 11 experience.

 

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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #137)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:16 PM

140. I welcome a Rule 11 Sanctions hearing; because the FACTS become the issue

and that does NOT bode well for your defeating quest

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:18 AM

2. And so -- we learn that Racketeering is yet another Republicon "Family Value"

The RepubliWankers really need to abandon their wicked ways, and try embracing American values like honesty, integrity, respect and personal responsibility.

Otherwise they will roAst in teh fiery pit O' Hell for alL eTerniTy, as the Preacher Men hath wArneD all mortal siNNerS. You kNow.

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Response to Berlum (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:25 AM

5. Bible thumping actually means

I'm going to hit you over the head with this book and my babbling Bull hit;
until I've taken everything you own and made you my slave for all eternity.

You know - in that 'Magic Underwear - I'm going to be a god someday - kind of way'

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:27 AM

7. Best of luck to you!

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Response to myrna minx (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:36 AM

9. Thanks 'myrna minx'

Much

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:33 AM

8. too cool good luck

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:38 AM

10. Yep - I've been the hockey puck for a decade plus now

Let's see how much Pitten's likes it rubbed in his face - that he lost because of little ole truths;
and his getting slapped/"puck'd around with...



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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:46 AM

11. I learned RICO charges are possible against corrupt politicians....

.... Wisconsin has a lot of it own very special corrupt politicians. I hope that the new John Doe II investigations leads to RICO charges.

Here are some places to start:
http://cognidissidence.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-return-of-walkergate.html
http://expressmilwaukee.com/article-22099-the-new-john-doe-investigation.html
http://www.prwatch.org/news/2013/11/12293/kohler-heir-walker-supporter-plunges-dark-money-depths

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:53 AM

14. RICO lawsuits can serve U.S. well (if you take time to study and LEARN)

I took months to learn and review

and still continue to learn more.

The LAW is our friend;
it is the keepers of the law that is our enemy...

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:15 PM

139. There's a world of difference between cases filed by govt prosecutors and pro se litigants.

 

If he's lucky, he'll merely have his case dismissed without having Rule 11 sanctions imposed on him.

Watch, he'll be back to tell us about the motion(s) to dismiss and how unfair the judge was to him.

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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #139)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:38 PM

144. Watch how you know very little about the Law. RICO was provided for cases just like this one

To fill in "Prosecutorial Gaps" of syndicated criminal efforts too powerful to be prosecuted regularly.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:49 AM

12. Excellent stick it to that fucker!!!

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:54 AM

15. I;m trying, I am Trying.....

Thanks much - for stopping by.....

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:51 AM

13. I must say I don't think I have ever rooted as hard

as I will be rooting for you

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Response to rurallib (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:54 AM

16. Really appreciate that 'rurallib'

Very, VERY - Much!

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:59 AM

17. Good luck

And people say there are no such thing as dragonslayers.

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Response to Half-Century Man (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:02 AM

18. Awh [c]hit = they are dragons too - Damn!

Now I gotta go find that inflexible sword of truth;
and fry Romney's but hole with it.

Kinda in the same way Matrix 1 - made Mr. Smith end

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:14 AM

21. I am worried about that "inflexible" part.

As a student of the mechanics of swords I have to say inflexible equals brittle. The best swords (ie. Katana's, Damascus steel scimitars, Norse, etc) used a blend of, or stacked different tempers to get the best of flexibility and edge retention.

Be strong enough to survive impact, flexible enough to resist stress, keen enough to bite deep, and have enough spring to return to true for the next stroke.

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Response to Half-Century Man (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:02 PM

34. You have pointed out a flaw and I'll adapt (somewhat)

It is an immortal sword of truth.

I'm never "flexible" on verity;
but I'm always willing to settle this - as long as certain conditions are met - to assure it's not bribery.

Capone can't write me a "cost of doing business payment" to make me rich;
and continue to steal from everyone else!

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:02 AM

19. K & R

Give the scum hell!

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Response to TheJames (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:03 AM

20. Thanks (and scum is too good a word for him)

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:30 AM

24. good luck !!!!

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Response to unionthug777 (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:35 AM

25. LOL - Greatly smiley. Thanks

I'm going to need help to see this through.

That being said, thus far, the Judge has been 100% kosher;
and that is ALL I've ever needed - is just one pure day in court.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:37 AM

26. Good Luck

and thank you for keeping his bad side in the public eye!

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #26)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:53 AM

30. Your welcome

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:39 AM

27. here's to the end of corruption

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #27)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:54 AM

31. Not the end; but at least a huge dent

G-d willing....

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:40 AM

28. gigantic rec and kick!

May the Force be with you, laserhaas!!!!

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #28)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:55 AM

32. Love Star Wars - and the force of truth has Always been with me

that is how we've gotten this far.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:52 AM

29. Here's the LINK to the new (amended) complaint.

It was true - I had to rush in the first filing and it was a bad rant.

This one - took a week - and I've tried my best to "tell the story"

the proofs will come out at trial (if I'm ever allowed to have one).

Please review it and give me an honest appraisal of what you think?

http://petters-fraud.com/haas_v_romney_1st_amended_complaint_filed_november6_2013.pdf


(NOTE: - Romney has billions of dollars and Mitt owns 800 Clear Channel stations - chances are, as this case progresses forward and gets more attention; Rush Limbaugh and gang will probably show pictures of me (like Schwarzenegger's "Running Man" film) - of having sex with Bambi while in Transylvania castle's.

Of course it won't matter that I've never been to Transylvania and Bambi is a fictional character; 47% of the country is going to believe what Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck say).

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:00 PM

33. Is this for bankruptcy fraud?

That is how he made his money. He would take controlling interest in a company, max out their credit cards, then strip and sell all of the assets. The company, unable to pay the debt, would go bankrupt and either the taxpayers would get stuck with the bill or the company would fold.

Busting out companies is how the mafia make money. It's what the do in the movie 'Good fellas'. It's racketeering.

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:06 PM

36. If you read my Amended Complaint - it shows that part of the Racketeering scheme

is the fact that Romney is the "boss" of the BANKRUPTCY RING of fraudsters.

And YES - they get their hooks in a company, bleed it out and then file bankruptcy.

They have also found a way to even loot Federal Bankruptcy Estates;
by keeping them open for years.

As a matter of fact, the original Kay Bee and eToys cases;
have been open for more a decade now.

PLUS - Kay Bee and eToys have been in bankruptcy multiple times;
and wound BACK at Bain (now under Toys R Us).

HENCE - Toys R Us is in possession of the stolen property of eToys!

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:17 PM

37. Is it possible that Rachel or Big Eddie, or even Tweedy could see this?

A little exposure of the former sewer dweller candidate couldn't hurt. And please believe me, I mean no offense to rats living in sewers.

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Response to Left Coast2020 (Reply #37)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:25 PM

40. NBC Universal is partners with Romney's Bain Capital entity

in stations like The Weather Channel.

Spoke directly to Rachel's staff - they won't let her air it - until some other media "makes" the story

Also had several conversations with James (Ed Schultz's Producer);
they want to do the story; but NBC's GC won't give it clearance.

Be patient - the closer we get to trial - the more anxious the media will get to tell the story.

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Response to Left Coast2020 (Reply #37)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:15 PM

57. No, they are all part of the gigantic conspiracy against this pro se litigant

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #57)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:21 PM

60. ABC is on the dial right next to NBC! They must be involved too!

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:21 PM

39. It's a two-fer! Romney AND Goldman Sachs!

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Response to Demeter (Reply #39)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:26 PM

41. A 4-fer

Romney and BAIN Capital

Goldman Sachs

and Paul Traub.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:42 PM

42. Why are you picking on this poor, beleaguered mutli-millionaire?

Best of luck to you! I've been following your story for some time and am glad to see it coming to a head!

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Response to Orrex (Reply #42)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:21 PM

61. Appreciate the patience "Orrex"

Hopefully, it is well worth the wait.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:45 PM

43. Excellent!

Best of luck in taking on McBain and the plutocracy.

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Response to Dopers_Greed (Reply #43)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:22 PM

62. I'm the Bane of Bain

and RMoney's number 1 pain....

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:46 PM

44. you had me at Romney lawsuit

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Response to grantcart (Reply #44)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:24 PM

64. Cool -- They had me (frkd) at his team saying hello

If you have time to read the Amended Complaint

you'll see what everyone heretofore - didn't know.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:46 PM

45. I hope the filing is more coherent than the press release.

Good luck with it... to my eyes the filing (at lease the first 8-10 pages) reads more like a DU post - complete with awkward neologisms like 'Dealaware', inexplicable font changes, and provocative references to Frank Nitti, fraudsters, etc. Most legal filings I've read are more dry and objective-sounding recitations of facts.

As I say, good luck with it.

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Response to Richardo (Reply #45)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:07 PM

51. No, it's not

It's a crank lawsuit.

Nobody said it "couldn't be filed". For $300, anything can be filed in a federal court.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #51)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:10 PM

54. Yes, I could not help thinking 'Orly Taitz' throughout the 8-10 pages I could wade through.

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Response to Richardo (Reply #54)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:12 PM

56. Pretty much the same syndrome, yes

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Response to Richardo (Reply #54)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:18 PM

59. +1 N/T

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #51)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:11 PM

55. Exactly. 90 recs? Really DU? Wishful thinking.

Nothing more than DU's own version of Orly Tai... (I better not say it)

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Response to FSogol (Reply #55)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:52 PM

71. You may be right about the potential of the lawsuit but I think that your comparisons to

OT are off base.

The facts are that Bain's raid on KB Toys was highly unethical if not illegal.

KB Toys had already gone through a buy out with a private equity firm.

They went through 'creative destruction' in 1996 Melville Corporation sells the company to Consolidated, and they strip it down:



In 1996, after an aborted attempt in 1995 to spin off Kay-Bee Toys, the Melville Corporation decided to sell the chain of 1,045 stores to Consolidated Stores Corporation for about $300 million. Consolidated already operated Toys Liquidators, Toys Unlimited, and the Amazing Toy Store close-out stores, as well as general retailers Odd Lots, Big Lots, All for One, and the It's Really $1.00 stores. William Kelley, chief executive officer and chairman of Consolidated's board, said in a New York Times article that he expected the combined businesses to offer 'a great deal of synergy.' Kay-Bee, under the direction of president Michael Glazer, continued to be run as a separate business within Consolidated's new Toy Division despite talk of its merging with their Toy Liquidators chain. Immediately after the sale, the stock of Consolidated surged upward. (my comment: hardly the sign of a company in trouble or needing further creative destruction)



Enter Bain Capital who papered the purchase of $ 300 million with only $ 15 million cash and then pull out $ 85 million cash in dividends. They load KB with unnecessary debt to finance their cash depletion and this takes a perfectly healthy company into bankruptcy only 4 years after Bain purchased it.

Who is left with the debt? Probably suppliers, landlords and employees.

If you rob a liquor store you will get 5 years but when you take a healthy toy store and take all its cash drive it into bankruptcy and leave a bunch of other people holding the paper there is no accountability.

Again you may be right in that the legal challenges may not bear fruit, but they should. What happened here should have merited severe civil penalties at the least.

This isn't even in the same universe as OT.

I rec'd it not for where the legal issues are but where they should be. There should be legal accountability for what Bain did at KB.

More details here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511407

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Response to grantcart (Reply #71)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:01 PM

74. I've read all your KB Toys articles and do agree Romney is a despicable person

following a destructive business model. This case against him is pure nonsense and will be quickly thrown out.

Have you seen this on the case:

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1167910/48680260#c39

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Response to FSogol (Reply #74)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:16 PM

87. Thanks for the link


Seems to be a credible source.

This appears to be the meat of it:



Again, transportation and security services and managing the sale of FF&E and inventory that hadn't been sold at auction. This narrow range of authority comes nowhere near the claim that Haas was the head honcho at eToys. More to the point of the Haas story, the agreements make clear that Haas was without authority regarding the auctions, the terms of the KB Toys bid, or the investigation into the financial affairs of eToys.



My point is really only about comparing Haas to OT. She is a lunatic that simply makes things up that rational people know to be true.

The charge here is that Haas is exaggerating his role and doesn't have a claim. Could be true but isn't in the Orly neighborhood.

Moreover the basic 'crime' remains; Bain took a profitable company, pumped the cash out and left creditors with worthless paper. This may not be the right lawsuit but there should be A lawsuit by those whose pockets were picked.

I assume that all lawsuits against Bain will fail because they paid good money for their legal advice and I am sure stayed within the law.

(I also assume that George Bush never signed a single document that could get him in legal trouble for the same reason, his father made sure that he had a legal authority giving him sound advice for everything he signed. I wonder when Cheney realized that Bush who he considered a light weight had delegated all the dirty work to him and that if there was a legal prosecution it would be Cheney holding the bag)

Bottom line the suit may not be legally viable but it continues to shine a light (even indirectly) on something that should be a crime and in that way should not be lumped in with OT.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #87)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:20 PM

90. "The charge here is that Haas is exaggerating his role and doesn't have a claim." ... Right, lol?

And, yet, over 105 recs and counting! It's nearly the #1 story on DU!



ETA: How absurd is that considering absolutely anything else that could have that exposure on DU's Greatest Page and probably home page too, though I haven't checked that.


COME ON PEOPLE, REALLY???

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #90)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:34 PM

95. lol


Shocked that a highly rec'd OP is based on a factual inaccuracy?

It happens quite a bit.

Here is one that defies math:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3974549

This may not be the right lawsuit on KB Toys (a point I already conceded) but when Bain pumped cash out of a healthy company and drove it into an unnecessary bankruptcy there should be a lawsuit, but as we all know guys like Romney always have the best lawyers and are never held accountable.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #95)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:39 PM

97. Yea, yea, I'm familiar with the story. And Im not shocked. It just struck me is all...

and I decided to be the board jester for this useless OP.

That Bain and Romney have not been held to account for their predatory practices is as absurd as "Laser the Liquidator" ( ) winning his de-barred case-without-merit, itself a warped attempt at extortion, I would think.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #95)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:47 PM

102. Holy...

Again, I admire and respect you greatly, which is why I have to point out that this guy's claim is premised on an expectation he would profit FROM THE BANKRUPTCY.

If someone sued Germany for unpaid wages as a concentration camp guard, I would not be saying, "It's about time this injustice was addresssed."

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #102)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:54 PM

106. lol


you do realize that I have conceded the point just didn't like the OT link?

The irony is that our friendly discussion has kept kicking it and the link got another 15 kicks, lol.

You may appreciate comment on #100

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Response to grantcart (Reply #71)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:07 PM

78. You don't seem to have the faintest idea what the OP's claim is about

You are one of the most intelligent people on DU.

Do you know why this guy has been engaging in these ridiculous legal gyrations for most of a decade? Have you asked yourself that question?

He's not upset about the bankruptcies.

He's not upset about the people thrown out of work and the companies destroyed.

He is not seeking "legal accountability for what Bain did at KB".

His company was hired to move some furniture during a bankruptcy. He had a one or two month contract (I'd have to go back and check, but it's a minor detail), to move some furniture. That's what he was in the business of doing.

He claims he didn't get paid, and he's trying to recover on a weeks long contract from 2000 - a claim long past time-barred now - because he was looking to make some money from what Bain was doing to KB Toys.

Get a grip on reality, Grant. The OP was one of the vultures who wanted to feed on the carcass.

On edit: Yes, the link to the original contract is posted above. He was hired to move furniture for 60 days as part of the liquidation.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #78)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:27 PM

91. A 'crime' was commited by Bain with KB Toys

A healthy company worth $ 300 million was paid for with $ 15 million cash and Bain pumped out $ 85 million in cash dividends.

The added debt forced the company into bankruptcy.

Creditors (I am assuming landlords, employees and suppliers) were left with worthless paper.


You are probably right about the legal standing of this particular lawsuit, I welcome any effort to bring to light the actions taken by Bain against KB Toy and the creditors they robbed.

I also assume that Bain paid well for the legal advice for their actions and will prevail.

My comment wasn't about the validity of the lawsuit (I concede that point) but



You may be right about the potential of the lawsuit but I think that your comparisons to OT are off base.



Do you really think that a lawsuit that apparently exaggerates the plaintiffs contractual role in an auction is the same as Orly Taitz manufacturing lies about the President's country of birth?

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Response to grantcart (Reply #91)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:29 PM

92. Nevermind the OT thing, I just want to know why you rec'ed this big nothingburger, as it's

racing to the top of the Greatest Page.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #91)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:41 PM

98. It's not merely a matter of exaggerating his role


A crime is committed when a bank is robbed too. But if the getaway driver doesn't get his fair cut of the proceeds, we don't ordinarily rally to see that "justice is done" so the guy gets paid.

When the guy at the impound lot sues the city for uncollected payments, he is not the hero of people wronged by draconian parking laws.

Again, you seem not to understand the OP's (very minor) role in the Bain shenanigans.

Repetitive frivolous litigation undertaken by obsessive pro se litigants for no valid reason other than to grandstand on the Internet is exactly what Orly Taitz, Larry Klayman, and other similarly disturbed individuals do.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #98)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:43 PM

99. Can I get an...

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Response to grantcart (Reply #71)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:13 PM

82. I'm surprised at you, grantcart. Are you ok? n/t

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Response to grantcart (Reply #71)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:21 PM

109. The information provided to Rolling Stone was good enough for Taibbi's cover story

on September 2012

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829?page=3

You have hit the nail on the proverbial head 'grantcart'

As Taibbi reiterates what I pointed out in 2005;
again in 2012 (but to a MUCH larger audience)

At the time of the KB Toys deal, Romney was a Bain investor and owner, making him a mere beneficiary of the raping and pillaging, rather than its direct organizer. Moreover, KB's demise was hastened by a host of genuine market forces, including competition from video games and cellphones. But there's absolutely no way to look at what Bain did at KB and see anything but a cash grab – one that followed the business model laid out by Romney. Rather than cutting costs and tightening belts, Bain added $300 million in debt to the firm's bottom line while taking out more than $120 million in cash – an outright looting that creditors later described in a lawsuit as "breaking open the piggy bank." What's more, Bain smoothed the deal in typical fashion by giving huge bonuses to the company's top managers as the firm headed toward bankruptcy. CEO Michael Glazer got an incredible $18.4 million, while CFO Robert Feldman received $4.8 million and senior VP Thomas Alfonsi took home $3.3 million.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829page=3#ixzz2jzd1IA76
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook




You are also correct that if anyone else did this - they'd go to jail for 100 years;
but not Above the Law Mitt the Pitts Romney & Gang

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Response to FSogol (Reply #55)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 04:36 PM

120. It's like when someone posts some bad satire from a non-Onion gag site

....and it just turns into a wishful thinking shitshow

Remember the time Paul Ryan beat up a woman in a restaurant in Cape Cod? When the House was debating the debt ceiling?

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #120)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 06:26 PM

130. Merle Haggard is probably rolling over in his grave

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:49 PM

47. Good thing;

The Romney camp won't spend much money on lawyers in this case!

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:50 PM

48. Fingers crossed! n/t

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Response to proReality (Reply #48)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:28 PM

67. When one is an amoeba fighting a horde of Goliath's

we need fingers crossed and a whole bunch of people paying attention to the one thing the RWNJ and naysayers never want one to see

FACTS

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:03 PM

50. How splendid!

I look forward to updates as you move forward on this! Please do let us know how it plays out!

Your tenacity and determination will get you through!

Julie

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #50)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:26 PM

65. Thanks Julie.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:23 PM

63. Knock him out!!



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Response to Segami (Reply #63)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:31 PM

68. Great PIC 'Segami'

Thanks


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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:28 PM

66. This bullshit has gotten nearly 100 recs? Seriesly???? And LOOK, the dupes

who recced this are all listed for all to see!

Hahahahahahahaha!

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #66)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:48 PM

69. You mean "again"


Granted, most folks don't wade through any of this to figure out what it is about.

But since the OP comes back every couple of months and weeks with new tales of derring-do, you'd think there might be an inkling of recognition of Baron von Munchausen after a while.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #69)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:54 PM

72. I just cannot believe the names on that DU Rec list of people who are usually

not so duped and gullible as to fall for this neurotic crap.

"Laser the Liquidator" !!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! Look out Mitt & Company, the Laser is about to Liquidate you!!! Hahahaha!

I'm going to save that DU Rec list for future reference! Apparently I don't know some of those like I thought I did!

LOL!

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #72)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:03 PM

75. Con men usually call those "marks"

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Response to FSogol (Reply #75)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:07 PM

77. And it's still getting recs!!! LOL! Even after this bullshit has been soundly debunked and

exposed as being baseless, obsessive tripe.

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #77)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:09 PM

79. If I was the Finance Minister of Nigeria, I would send them all an email, stat!

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Response to FSogol (Reply #79)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:09 PM

80. Bwahahahahahahahaaa...

...hahahahahahaaa!

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Response to FSogol (Reply #79)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:12 PM

81. Have you read up on all the latest risky-free modalities?


http://j-walk.com/other/conf/

The 3rd Annual Nigerian
EMail Conference
"Write better emails. Make more moneys."

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #81)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:13 PM

83. OMG! ROFLMAO!!! You guys are killing me! Thanks for the belly laffs today, I needed it!! LOL! n/t

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #81)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:14 PM

84. Hilarious. Everyone here is wondering why I'm crying.



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Response to FSogol (Reply #84)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:15 PM

85. If I wasn't working from home, everyone would be wondering the same about me! ROFL!

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #72)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:44 PM

100. Well I have to say I can't think of anytime one of my rec's ever generated so

much mirth and laughter



Ironically it may the most useful thing I do today.

With the additional details from the dailykos link I considered taking my rec back, but now feel that I have to keep it up as a public service!!!

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Response to grantcart (Reply #100)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:46 PM

101. I love it! Frequent listener, first time caller here, love your stuff, grantcart. Hee-Heeeeee! n/t

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #101)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:48 PM

103. Thanks but can I get an "AMEN" ?

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Response to grantcart (Reply #103)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:50 PM

104. Sure...

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Response to grantcart (Reply #103)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:52 PM

105. I gave you half a "Holy shit", will that do?

How about a facepalm?

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #105)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:54 PM

107. depends which half. Big difference between the 'holy' and the 'shit'.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:16 PM

86. Be still my heart!

 

oh my. oh oh oh oh. please please please please make Romney give up some of his precioussssssssss.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #86)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:17 PM

89. Really Whisp? Did you read the thread? ....

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #89)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:33 PM

94. thinking of Romney in trouble brings me joy.

 

True or not, false or what, it made me feel happy and it is not impossible that one day these fucker grand thieves like Romney get caught and pay. Laugh away...

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Response to Whisp (Reply #94)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:35 PM

96. Well, I guess if you put it that way, it's easy to leap before you look, lol. Hope you're

not butt-hurt, I'm just having a rare moment of fun.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #86)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:26 PM

110. Luv 'Lord of the Rings' and you've given me an idea for a new title

Lord of the RICO'fings

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)


Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #88)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:59 PM

108. I understand your wanting to find humor in this but

that site, along with his court filings, seem to speak to a manifestly disordered, obsessive mind. The result in inevitable and he will only grow angrier and more delusional. Coupled with the fact he has made allusions to violent acts he could hurt himself and others.

This is very serious and very dangerous.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:30 PM

111. Good for you

Hope you win

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Response to malaise (Reply #111)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:33 PM

112. Thanks 'malaise' - I've won many battles in this case

and I'm close to winning the Civil War.

Stay Tuned!

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:38 PM

113. hope it goes well!

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Response to blackspade (Reply #113)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:47 PM

115. Thank you 'blackspade' and a Hat Tip back to ya

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:46 PM

114. What the heck does it mean for a lawsuit to become "official."

I've been a practicing attorney for 35 years and I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. I suppose it means that the case has been docketed, which means that it meets the requirements (which have absolutely zero to do with the substantive merits of the claim) for filing --signature, filing fee or pro se declaration, etc.

As for the "New Case Order" -- that is a pro forma procedural order issued in essentially that format by certain district courts (including the court with which the OP filed his/her complaint. It signifies nothing about the merits of the case.

I'm not excusing anything that romney and/or bain may have done, but based on my experience, and reading this complaint, I'would not be surprised in the slightest if the complaint is tossed out on the merits in short order.

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Response to onenote (Reply #114)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:53 PM

116. Yeah, good luck with that wish counselor. If you don't comprehend the word "official"

I'm sure this stuff is way above your head.

Except for the want of circling the wagons to protect attorneys benefiting from;
corruption, power and money.

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #116)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 04:23 PM

119. In other words, you don't have a clue what you're talking about

If you did, you could explain to me and the rest of DU what made your case "official" and what its status was before it was "official".

And if you think that anything that has been done with your complaint up to this point has any bearing whatsoever on its merits or lack thereof, you are very misinformed.

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Response to onenote (Reply #119)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 04:38 PM

121. Evidently, you find attorneys at law lying under oath and betraying their clients as Okay!

As your words are verbatim;


I'm not excusing anything that romney and/or bain may have done, but based on my experience, and reading this complaint, I'would not be surprised in the slightest if the complaint is tossed out on the merits in short order.








You are touting to this community that you are an attorney for 35 years.

Thus (apparently) you are implying that you are an expert of the issues at hand.

While your reflection "complaint is tossed out on the merits in short order";
infers that my Complaint has no merits whatsoever.
(After it was officially docketed after being held under review for a week)

However, being that the attorneys have confessed lying under oath;
and you've offered no evidence to the contrary of such
- Nor have you (counselor) provide a "legal"/proper foundation for why they should get away 'Scot Free'.

Thus, having documented all your expertise and "your" case against "the" case;
how would you grade your chances with the jury?

Especially given the fact that no party has filed any motion to quash, Demurer or Summary Judgment - YET!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #121)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 05:06 PM

123. All I've done is offer my opinion based on years of experience.

While courts, including the court in which you filed, generally say that they will offer pro se litigants leeway in formulating a complaint, my experience is that courts really don't have a lot of patience with long, rambling complaints, which I think is an apt descripton of your complaint. It is a fact that such complaints get tossed out more often than they proceed to trial.

By short order, i did not mean to suggest that the court would throw out the complaint before a motion was filed, although the courts have such power if they choose to use it in circumstances where they feel it is an appropriate use of their inherent authority to manage cases.

In your case, I have no way of knowing whether the court has reviewed your complaint for anything more than its compliance with the minimal procedural standards applicable to pro se complaints. They may well have engaged in a preliminary screening to determine whether it meets the courts substantive pleading standards (e.g., does it provide sufficient notice to each defendant of the basis of the alleged liability and not rely on legal conclusions in lieu of factual allegations) and decided it should be allowed to proceed to the stage of service of process and answer/motion to dismiss. I would expect the defendants' to move to dismiss and, as I said, I wouldn't be surprised if the court, at that juncture, tosses the complaint. I think if you checked, you would find that the won/lost record of pro se litigants is not very good.

Please keep us informed as to the case's progress (i.e., if/when the complaints are served and what response(s) the defendants make,etc.).







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Response to onenote (Reply #123)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 05:11 PM

124. It is my intention to keep all informed

As for the "factual allegations" - as the judge said in Host Hotels sanction of Boies

This is not ethical rocket science!

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Response to onenote (Reply #123)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 05:36 PM

127. So, based on your experience...

What odds would you give a complaint filed in the USDC for the Central District of California, wherein the primary cause of action relates to having been barred from filing papers in the US Bankruptcy Court for the District of Delaware as a vexatious litigant?

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #127)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 05:53 PM

128. Not so good, obviously

I handled a case for a client in a different district court (District of Mass) in which a pro se litigant with a litigious history, filed a complaint alleging RICO, fraud, Sherman Act and other violations against a list of individuals and companies that included his cable operator, ebay, google, paypal, and some banks. I never got a chance to file a motion to dismiss on behalf of my client. First the court ordered the complainant to amend his complaint to comply with the substantive pleading standards of the court. Then after the plaintiff filed an amended complaint that was only slightly less rambling, the court, citing its inherent authority to manage cases, dismissed the complaint with prejudice on its own motion.

Judges don't like these sorts of unmanageable complaints that throw around broad conspiracy allegations that would be nearly impossible for a defendant to respond to cogently.

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Response to onenote (Reply #128)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 06:00 PM

129. First of all counselor, a RICO Complaint, by its very nature, is an allegation of a Conspiracy.

It requires 2 or more "predicate acts" (as per 18 USC 1961) during a "protracted" period of time.

Though it is not a requisite, I started the beginning of my Amended Complaint signed "Under Penalty of Perjury"; because - EVERYTHING stipulated therein is the Truth. I won't mix bullhit with ice cream.

It would serve justice and DU well that (instead of just tossing out general allegations) - you were to be case point specific on the individual points of contention (allegations).

I challenge you - or ANYONE - to be fact specific and find one single, solitary contention to be untrue!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #129)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:43 PM

146. Too funny.

 

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Response to onenote (Reply #128)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 05:51 AM

162. "First the court ordered the complainant to amend his complaint..."

Then after the plaintiff filed an amended complaint that was only slightly less rambling"the court, citing its inherent authority to manage cases, dismissed the complaint with prejudice on its own motion.



HINT -- His initial filing was 2 hyperlinks at 50 pages a link. His amended complaint, shown in post #159, now requires 3 links.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #162)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:50 AM

170. You are babbling B.S. with no foundation. The court Did NOT order an Amended Complaint!

A Racketeering Case, by its very nature - is a Conspiracy Complaint.

The COURT has a standing RICO Case Statement Order that one details the conspiracies in full.

IT IS REQUIRED - that one delve into every Defendants scheme and even detail "co-conspirators" and their schemes!

Chevron RICO Complaint against other attorneys was 265 pages....

This is why you and your band of snide victim abusers won't stick with the facts;
you are too happy being with the mob and kicking someone when they are down.

Can't do that - if you permit everyone to look at the true picture of the civil beatings.

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #170)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:04 AM

174. I was quoting OneNote's reference to his own client.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #162)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:51 AM

171. Wikipedia could help you improve upon your ignorance. As it states that RICO is to stop conspiracies

by attorneys who use the courts to abuse a whistleblower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

Anti-SLAPP (strategic lawsuit against public participation) laws can be applied in an attempt to curb alleged abuses of the legal system by individuals or corporations who utilize the courts as a weapon to retaliate against whistle blowers, victims, or to silence another's speech. RICO could be alleged if it can be shown that lawyers and/or their clients conspired and collaborated to concoct fictitious legal complaints solely in retribution and retaliation for themselves having been brought before the courts.

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #171)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:08 AM

175. No one questions the existence of the law.

We question you having any evidence that this law was broken WRT your stated complaint. Your filings are nothing more than hundreds of pages of you reciting "They're bad people" with as much verbosity as possible. That's not evidence, it's just rambling.

Question -- if the case goes as I and several others suspect will you accept the decision or will this just deepen the conspiracy?

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #175)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:54 AM

180. Yeah - good luck with that wish Tish! - LOOK UP you ------ and see the FACTs already in Evidence

You ARE on the WRONG side of the FENCE here;
and losing/digging a deeper hole for yourself

with every false type and veiled agenda worthless.

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #180)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:58 AM

182. Again, what facts? Provide a testable assertion.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #182)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:10 AM

189. Look UP ^^^ duck! - And then forever more be silent - or apologize. (again)

Cause the FACTS have you by the proverbial's....

Do you like to eat crow al dente or ala mode?

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #189)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:03 PM

202. I'm reading your motions.

Page 4. Para (5)(f), excerpted

...I offer as Proof Positive (PROVES) evidence of Fraud and Corruption, and ask all to review such. For every time I, or the eToys shareholders, offer a document, they state it is not documented correctly and seek to "Strike" such statements of fact: review of the eToys Court Dockets as listed on Pacer will establish this. Such collective documents shall be labeled as PROOF Positive since FACTS are admissions that PROVES that GOLD and TRAUB are related, that MNAT defends GOLD & TRAUB to the detrement of their own client(s), that KENNEY and the US Trustee office in Wilmington Delaware sit idle in light of 50 different incidents of False Oaths, False Declarations, Failure to Disclose, Scheme to Fix Fee's, and more. That the this KB case needs to be aware of such FACTS as GOLD is directly tied to Bain Capital & KB and the subterfuge, the specious activities, occurring repetitively as habit and nature of this group/associates and the Public appointed WATCHDOG of KENNEY as US Trustee representative which are materially adverse conflicts to the KB case.

http://petters-fraud.com/ClockedCopyHAASmotionKBcaseMisPrisionFelony.pdf


Emphasis added.

Disregarding the run-on sentences, bad spelling, random capitalization, bad syntax, verb-noun confusion, argument by assertion and disconnected statements all we have is: you filed an unsupported rant and it was struck down as such. You then claim the fact that it was struck down makes it proof and demand the court admit as evidence what it had already dismissed as lacking evidentiary standing.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #202)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:19 PM

204. Once again you are Bogus and full of bull. WOW - you point out the fact that I'm NOT an attorney

GENIUS move on your part!

WOW - you point out the fact that I'm not a good writer as a pro se - party;
again how great a GENIUS you must feel like and be.

WOW - you have to go WAY BACK from 2013 and completely DODGE the Update above ^^^^

that gave you not just One (as you double dogged dared);
but a plethora of valid points.

All of which is moot to a person such as you with a veiled agenda.





What you are doing for me - (and whom ever you are working with digging up your bologna);
is encouraging me (and all readers here) on how strong the evidences are.

You simply CAN"T dare (double dog dare) - address the fact that this case is about attorneys at law who SOLD OUT their Court APPROVED clients for the sake of their (secret clients) friends Goldman Sachs and Bain Capital.

Because, once you do that - you validate the legitimacy of this entire case.

As there is NO GREATER SIN for an attorney at law;

Than that of Betrayal of a Client's trust/case.

Attorney's at Law oath to the BAR, the courts and clients;
is that LOYALTY to the approved client

is SACROSANCT!







I've relented on my stance that I would not speak with you;
because it did appear (for a second or two) that you had "some" good faith intent.

Now that you have revealed your colors - we are completely DONE;
until you capitulate to the paramount issues of lying under oath and duty of client loyalty!

WHEREAS if you can't address those facts (already in evidence Confessed);
you have NO good faith intent!

And are a waste of everyone's time!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #204)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:29 PM

205. Again, argument by assertion.

Accepting that the execs failed to disclose their conflict of interest that does not prove

* there was another settlement worth tens of millions of dollars

* you played any part in securing such a settlement

* the conflict of interest impacted this settlement or your alleged part in it

* Romney directed such a conflict to occur

* the US trustee abetted the conspiracy

* the court abetted the conspiracy

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #202)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:39 PM

206. And into the rabbit hole you go...



On the amended complaint, though, it looks like he burned his one amendment-by-right opportunity unprompted.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #206)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:43 PM

208. "it looks like he burned his one amendment-by-right opportunity unprompted."

May the end come quickly and mercifully. He's taking confederation with someone who murdered a man and was Baker Acted for it.

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Response to onenote (Reply #119)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 04:50 PM

122. Too late, you are already part of the conspiracy...

You missed the previous threads?

He filed the complaint:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=625621
Romney Sued for RICO in Fed Court

The complaint was docketed in PACER:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3892846
Goldman Sachs, Bain Capital & Mitt Romney Sued for Racketeering By ME!

And now, lo and behold, a summons was issued.

I expect a summary judgment brief will be filed on Monday, and a judgment by Friday at the latest!

(also see my notes in those threads - it's a classic pro se crank litigator)

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Response to onenote (Reply #114)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 04:22 PM

118. Official = his "filing check cleared"

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 05:31 PM

125. Best news I've heard today!

Good luck and God speed!!!!!

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Response to JustinBulletin (Reply #125)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 05:33 PM

126. Thank you 'JustinBulletin'

Very Much!

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 06:46 PM

131. Wishing You laserhaas a nexus of good forces!! Thanks for Your courage & fortitude!!!

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Response to hue (Reply #131)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 07:02 PM

133. Thanks MUCH

Not courage - Just pissed....

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 07:00 PM

132. So you want Romney to pay you for moving stuff out of KB toys when Bain gutted them?

Well, expose the Delaware Atty General again. But you're not gonna get anything. Expose Romney for killing a toy store again, especially at Christmas. But it won't get you any money. And stop working for vultures. They screw everyone.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 07:48 PM

134. I knew you'd do it!

Way to go Laser.

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Response to TxDemChem (Reply #134)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 07:52 PM

135. Thanks MUCH 'TxDemChem'

Appreciate it most kindly!

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:37 PM

142. Tons of luck Sir, tons of luck and good vibes....

God how I hope you win. I do not have much hope left, but what I have is yours.
Do not let the naysayers bring you down.

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Response to Hotler (Reply #142)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:46 PM

149. Ha Ha - if Romney and his RICO gang of organized/corrupt crooks can't stop me

you think a bunch of Mitt-Twit sucker uppers has a hair balls chance?

Appreciate your FANTASTIC support of good faith efforts for justice.

It will get much worse with the naysayers;
once Limbaugh and Beck start beating their Laser hater drums.

I'm ready for them!

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:44 PM

148. It would be cool if Romney loses, and has to sell a few of his mansions.

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Response to JEFF9K (Reply #148)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:52 PM

150. He's losing more and MORE each and every day he fails to give us back eToys

that he and his RICO Gang stole by fraud & corruption.

But what I'd rather do, is making him open up those Off Shore books;
and reveal exactly how much is there and how much arrived there fraudulently.

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #150)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 05:41 AM

161. "He's losing more and MORE each and every day he fails to give us back eToys"

Who's "us." You were never an owner of eToys, you were part of the flock of buzzards picking the bones clean; you're just alleging you never got your fair share of the gristle.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #161)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:29 AM

164. Show how much you babble like a schmo about facts you don't know.

Our job was to "Maximize returns at minimum expense"

They were selling everything to Bain/Kay Bee for $3 to $5.4 million.

We put up a guarantee and compelled those prices to tens of millions.

Turning down a bribe of nearly a million, CEO positions on 2 others companies;
and the chance to be a partner of a "very important person" (who was only seeking Governor at the time).

And the man who stole my chair by fraud & corruption; owns eToys
(renamed ebc1 after Bain/Kay Bee stole the eToys.com domain name).

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #164)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:42 AM

169. "We put up a guarantee and compelled those prices to tens of millions"

YOU did no such thing and I defy you to provide evidence of such.

Your job was to secure and transport specified assets. You have presented nothing but unfounded assertions about tens of millions of dollars in offers. No evidence you were offered a chair. You failed to properly file your claims, stating you believed another party was responsible for doing so on your behalf.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #169)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:54 AM

172. Fortunately, I don't have to hop through your hoops of BS

And we can engage in further conversation - once you admit the attorneys lied under oath.

For that is where this case begins and ends;
with attorneys who sold out their court approved clients for the sake of their secret ones
(Bain & Goldman Sachs).

Until then - I'm finished with you!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #172)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:15 AM

176. I ask for evidence. You claim you aren't required to present evidence then demand I

render an admission -- sans evidence.

This may come as a shock to you but you will be required to present evidence -- if this actually makes it to trial -- and if that time ever comes the defense is also entitled to discovery. The burden is on you. That's how it works. You don't get to stamp your feet and demand things go your way.

Demanding verdicts without evidence is an admission you have no evidence.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #176)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:56 AM

181. Look UP ^^^ duck! - And then forever more be silent - or apologize.

Until you address the core issue at hand;
that Romney/Bain law firm already CONFESSED lying under oath.

You are guilty of dodging the Facts!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #181)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:22 AM

196. I have read you filings, at length

I have more genuine concern for you than the dozens of people egging you on for their own emotional purposes.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #196)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:40 AM

197. If you truly have read the filings at length - then you "dare" / "double dog dare" to find validity

is disingenuous at best!

No one can egg me on - nor can anyone persuade me off - this case.

They are harming tens of thousands of people;
and the eToys shareholder who did join me in 2004 - had to shoot/kill a co-conspirator's agent.
(Robert Alber - Kingman Arizona, shot/killed Michael Sesseyoff in 2010 - after one stalwart was released from prison)
You can look it all up online yourself.

What you and the others here can't see - is that MNAT is partners with Johann Hamerski.

That Johann was a (self professed) partner of Abramoff's

Who offered Alber a Bribe and was turned down.

Johann Hamerski spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to fight Alber over a $14,000 land deal;
and it is also a fact that Johann owns the same amount of stock as Robert Alber.
(because Hamerski asked Alber for half his stock in eToys to pay the $14,000 for land Johann (turns out) did NOT own at the time).

Alber (by accident) found a paper from MNAT stapled inside the AZ State Court folder;
to keep MNAT (secretly) informed about the Alber v Hamerski case.

That is a crime - in and of itself!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #197)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:15 PM

203. ADMINS -- how long will this go on? This is who he is claiming

is his friend who had to kill someone over this absurd case --

Sessoyeff died from a single gunshot wound to the chest after he and Alber got into an argument over a locked front gate. Sessoyeff had been staying in a trailer on Alber's property.

Alber contends that he shot Sessoyeff in self-defense.

According to Sessoyeff's girlfriend, who was standing next to her boyfriend when he was shot, Sessoyeff was unarmed during the argument, which lasted about 45 seconds.

The girlfriend, Misty Power, said she is concerned that no charges will be filed because Sessoyeff had an extensive criminal history. She said that Sesseyoff was in the process of turning his life around, even beginning an online college course the day he was killed.

Schoppmann said his office has received new information this week and has not yet decided whether to pursue murder charges.

The same day of the shooting, Alber was arrested and charged with felony trafficking in stolen property for allegedly selling a Department of Public Safety Taser which had been reported stolen out of a squad car the week before. A shotgun and other items also stolen from the car, which was parked in front of the officer's home, have not been recovered.

Alber was in court Thursday for the stolen goods charge. His attorney, Art Higgs, petitioned for a mental health examination of his client, which Alber objected to. In a motion to the court, Higgs said Alber has made disjointed statements about the law and has made "paranoid reports about unrelated and irrelevant facts."

Judge Steven Conn granted the request, referred to as a Rule 11 examination.

http://kingmandailyminer.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=797&ArticleID=39481

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #203)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:56 PM

211. Whoa... I missed that part of the general tangled mess

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #161)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:33 AM

165. Your being petty, snide and down right ebol is helping the dark side and they applaud you for it

You are being touted as a hero on conservative websites.

Are you proud of yourself?

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #165)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:36 AM

166. What are you on about?

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:23 PM

151. Best of luck, sir! No matter what your shortcomings, I'm proud that you're at least trying!

Give the racketeers holy hell!

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Response to ancianita (Reply #151)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:03 AM

155. Thank YOU 'ancianita' - very, Very, much!

And, I'm doing my best to give the RICO crooks no rest.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:30 PM

152. You and a motion for Summary Judgment will soon meet.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #152)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 10:50 PM

153. 12(b)(6), more likely

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:16 PM

154. Wishing you the best!

Very thrilled you are doing this! Hope they all get caught in a "Cover Up" and go to prison for many, many years! Good luck! Rooting for you 100%

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Response to connie111 (Reply #154)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:05 AM

156. Thank'ee U U U ...

I don't care if the white collar fraudsters go to jail or not;
just want to take back (with much penalty and interest) what they stole.


HOWEVER,

for the autocrats like Colm Connolly, who betrayed their positions of public trust

JAIL!


for those who did the abducting and involved in the physical harm resulting in homicides

JAIL!

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Response to connie111 (Reply #154)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:28 AM

179. welcome to DU

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #179)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:58 AM

183. Wow - decent persons among U.S. (Please be careful - being on the lawful side bodes bad here)!

But - nice to see yah - being friendly and all!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #183)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:59 AM

184. why do you say that?

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #184)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:07 AM

187. You just stepped into a thread - with a lot of meanness going on - and said to another Welcome

Takes big heart of kindness to be So COOL!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #187)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:10 AM

190. I didn't think it was a big deal

I know I appreciated folks welcoming me when I got on here and feel it's important that new people to the community know they are appreciated both for solidarity and also for what they can teach us!

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #190)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:13 AM

192. There are way too few good people in this world, willing to be "openly" kind. THANK YOU

for being one of those people.

And it is such a RARE deal in my threads;
it is a real big deal.

KUDOs to you - and here's your 3 smiley Award!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #192)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:15 AM

193. thanks

I am so psyched about Romney getting sued!

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #193)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:41 AM

198. Hey, then it should really get you excited - that Summons's are issued

and they (all of the NAMED defendants)

Have to respond within 21 days - after I serve them,,,,

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #198)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:45 AM

200. Link to the Summons issued (NOTE - I had to cross out stuff to make the Complaint and

Last edited Sat Nov 9, 2013, 04:35 AM - Edit history (1)

Summons read exactly the same)


http://petters-fraud.com/haas_v_romney_clocked_copy_summons.pdf

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #198)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:00 PM

214. Excellent!

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #214)

Sat Nov 9, 2013, 04:34 AM

215. We'll see what will be...

as time marches closer to an actual start of the trial

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:48 AM

157. So, Mr. Mitt isn't TBTF???

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #157)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 02:24 AM

158. Not YET; but his house of Racketeer cards is visibly untenable.

and his Too Big To Fail - Too Big to Jail premise - is going to be put to the test!

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 04:28 AM

160. Wow I have a lot to learn

This is great, especially to be in the follow up tracking a law suit against a former presidential candidate. A different level than John Edwards being close to the top layer but that upper law area to the “Hoi polloi” to the riff raff citizen, or the ignorant like me is tabooed and mystified by the media, loaded with free speech money, always confuse by the famous phrase journalist use “ that begs the question.” Or “with that said” is my favorite.

The game is played in what I call a pseudo social legal immunity far from being fair. The actions are like a Constitutional polo game, with sublime arrogance judges invoke legal ease to curtail rights or privileges. From my view this legal stuff is hard to get through because more than we know in the legal community it is the shuffle board of soft money that wrench the Constitution.

From my view, and I know nothing about legal mechanics however at this time in my life drawn to it. This Romney does appear to be a hardened flim flamer of the worst science called greed. Romney very obtuse in empathy for the average citizen yet knows the bell pull to free speech money the high rollers play shuffle board with.

What really jumped out at me

“Whereas plaintiff alleges the parties named in this Complaint are “culpable” persons “corrupting” interstate commerce via “patterns” of “racketeering”.


That part of the community of legal people that knows enough to tap the system at a distance but get around the monopoly Go plate to collect a stay out of jail card. Free speech money really talks.

Another phrase jumps out to me:

“Congress provided a solution whereby citizens can become “Private Attorney Generals” if such need should arise.”

Certainly would like to know what congress made that ruling. This system and its corruption make me so angered that if I had the money my time would be spent in a perpetual legal chase. I might have that chance. I just signed a contract with a legal firm to file a whistle blower complaint to the government but do not have the money that might be needed.

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Response to polynomial (Reply #160)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:37 AM

167. Please feel free to PM your issue and I'll be happy to assist you in avoiding my hard knocks

It is what I do with my crunched time that can help others;
as I've been battling this horde of Goliath's in the form as an amoeba to them.

But have WON many a battle.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 07:01 AM

163. Congratulations!

So jealous!

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #163)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:42 AM

168. Ha Ha - you crack me up. "so jealous". Ummm, let's see; R U jealous of being homeless?

R U jealous of being abused by federal corruption?

R U jealous of having your very own gang of Laser haters?

R U jealous of the fact that anyone who Google's your name on the web;
will think you are out of your mind?

Or R U jealous of not being able to have your back stiffen every time you hear a bang or boom?
(Where I've have dived behind shielding in fear of my life).

I just walked up as an amoeba and kicked one of the most powerful men in this country in the proverbial's; I'm not envious of this position and would never wish this state of affairs upon ANYONE (even my enemies)!

But thanks MUCH for the chuckle;
you damn near floored me!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #168)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:01 AM

173. Hey, try to remember, I'm on your side.

You're not taking it lying down. That's what I'm jealous about.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #173)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:03 AM

185. I know 'Baitball Blogger' - I was making a point to those who would read it and might ????

Thoroughly enjoy the fact that you and others brave the storm of hate around U.S.

Daring to cross the line in the sand!

They (the nefarious hordes) went the wrong way when they abducted my daughter.

After that, no amount of money and/or time;
could ever assuage me from the quest for justice!

They are SO Stupid - but I'm glad.

As this case guaranteed Obama would never lose.

When I told everyone Romney lied about his Bain CEO tenure;
no one believed me - until the POTUS put it on his campaign debate websites.

If the POTUS is ever asked about this case;
what do you think he will do?


I've already told him (by Twitter) - in advance;
that I know he MUST commute Romney's sentence.

So the RWNJ cannot claim he was vindictive winner;
and the POTUS will be immortalized as the most magnanimous ever!

That's assuming no one shoots me in the meantime...

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:16 AM

177. Well you caused the DU

armchair lawyers to light their hair on fire! So you must be doing something right!

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Response to Rex (Reply #177)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:24 AM

178. Have you read his actual filings? I defy anyone

to present a passage that has any provable assertion with relevance to his claims let alone sift through the hundreds of pages to find enough contentions to merit the court's attention.

I double dog dare you.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #178)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:08 AM

188. Ummm - what flavor do you smother your crow with - when you eat it? LOOK UP at Update^^^

And sit down - be quiet - or apologize!

Cause you've just been served!

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Response to Rex (Reply #177)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:06 AM

186. Hey - here's a thought for you. My CLI contracts guarantee Legal Fees & they Confessed

lying under oath.

Why is it that a court order guarantee of legal fees;
and confessions by opponents to Perjury & Fraud

has never been addressed properly?

Cause attorneys at law would rather circle the wagons around each other;
(like the Blue Wall of Silence) - then see one of their ilk - Punished appropriately!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #186)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:11 AM

191. I look forward to the results!

Should be very interesting.

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Response to Rex (Reply #191)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:16 AM

194. Odds are against me - as they always have been. However, if nothing else

(even if corruption should come again and the day in court be denied)

they are spending much money on legal eagles;
and running around spending vast monies on destroying evidences.

Which means they need to take meds - in order to sleep at night.

That thought keeps me happy often!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #194)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:19 AM

195. Couldn't happen to a bigger group of greedy assholes.

I hope they waste every penny they own!

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Response to Rex (Reply #195)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:43 AM

199. That might be improbable -as they own (have stolen billions); but not impossible.

Especially if the feds wake up and realize that I'm serving up $100 billion of Bain Capital RICO

on a silver platter for them!

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:56 AM

201. Note the silence of the adversarial's when they ask for 1 proof - and are provide MANY!

So Cool huh!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #201)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:42 PM

207. I get the sense that this forum is the court you're trying to convince

why not, oh, shaddup until your case is heard on its merits, and report back?

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #207)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:50 PM

209. It's a deeper issue than that


The OP's periodic posts to DU about his imminent victory have been going on for a couple of years. It is part of the syndrome.

http://wtsglobal.com/newsletters/the-vexatious-litigant/

Anyone in the professions concerned with dispute resolution will eventually encounter the claimant – rigid and suspicious but perhaps initially ingratiating – who often appears with many documents, pleading or demanding that they be read. On inspection the arguments are poorly constructed and often confusing and rambling. Excessive highlighting and underlining are common, as well as many attachments, often of no relevance to the case or touting broad principles of human rights. They may utterly deny obvious undisputed facts known to others. Although they certainly may engage in conscious lying, fundamentally it is more the case of a passionate belief in the truth of their perceptions. Personal blogs, chat room dialogue reinforcing their perceptions, and other internet activity will accompany their quest.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #209)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 12:54 PM

210. Oh. Well, in that case...

...why not sue for something like a bajillion dollars? You know, a fictional amount for fictional claims?

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #210)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:30 PM

212. It's actually difficult to tell what he is asking the court to give him


The prayer for $100M is tucked away among a bunch of odd rhetoric.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:12 PM

213. Have a great weekend everyone - thanks for stopping by. - And Stay Tuned.

More to come soon!

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 9, 2013, 09:09 AM

216. What is due next - are a couple of Motions and a RICO Case Statement

Being that this plaintiff have filed a "Civil" Racketeering case;
as a "Private Attorney General" - the court compels one provide an outline of case

just as any prosecutor would have to do.


Hence - the "RICO Case Statement" is due next.

As anyone can see by the outline;
one is required to detail the entire conspiracy.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 9, 2013, 08:04 PM

217. Romneyworld Reckoning Imminent as Supporters Figure Out they Were Ripped OFF!

This is a rich one, making rich one's poorer;
as the flip flopper got richer by losing.

Politico points out Romney supporters are miffed.

Ha Ha - the spankin's keep on coming.




http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83549.html

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