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Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:21 AM

Where were you when they told us the world as we know it is over?

Where were you when they told us the world as we know it is over?
By Michael Collins, on November 5th, 2013



According to a leaked draft of the upcoming Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPPC), http://www.ipcc.ch/ the world as we know it is over. The report presents substantial and well documented predictions of global suffering and massive social disruption resulting from the impact climate change on the water supply, food, and natural resources, and successively mounting human loss. http://www.flickr.com/photos/24662369@N07/5333202438 (Image 11/2013 eclipse)

Oddly enough, the recipient of the leak, the New York Times, http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/02/science/earth/science-panel-warns-of-risks-to-food-supply-from-climate-change.html?adxnnl=1&seid=auto&smid=tw-nytimesscience&adxnnlx=1383469518-lEpf14Q4HkvxnE2HWnGu+g acted like it was a story about the “food supply.” In fact, the totality of the draft makes it clear that we’ve gone too far for too long to avoid the dire consequences of man made climate change.

The documented risks presented include (Climate Change 2014: Impacts, Adaptations, Vulnerability, IPCC, here http://www.themoneyparty.org/main/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Climate_Change_2014_IPCCsmallpdf.com1_.pdf or here, http://www.scribd.com/doc/180989207/LEAKED-DRAFT-IPCC-Change-2014-Impacts-Adaptation-and-Vulnerability pp. 6 & 7):

✓ Food insecurity linked to warming, drought, and precipitation variability;

✓ Death injury and disrupted livelihoods in low-lying coastal zones … due to sea level rise, coastal flooding and storm surges;


✓ Severe harm for large urban populations due to inland flooding;

✓ Systemic risk due to extreme events leading to break down of infrastructure networks and critical services;

✓ Loss of rural livelihoods and income due to insufficient drinking and irrigation water and lower agricultural productivity particularly in poorer regions; and,

✓ Loss of marine and terrestrial ecosystems and the services and livelihoods that they provide

What’s left?

Lots of links:
- See more at: http://agonist.org/told-us-world-know/#sthash.cj6GS3nG.dpuf

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Reply Where were you when they told us the world as we know it is over? (Original post)
kpete Nov 2013 OP
scheming daemons Nov 2013 #1
randome Nov 2013 #4
LondonReign2 Nov 2013 #7
robertpaulsen Nov 2013 #11
hatrack Nov 2013 #2
JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #3
gopiscrap Nov 2013 #5
autorank Nov 2013 #6
bvar22 Nov 2013 #8
Bandit Nov 2013 #9
Quantess Nov 2013 #10
CFLDem Nov 2013 #12
Quantess Nov 2013 #13
CFLDem Nov 2013 #14
WillyT Nov 2013 #15
AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #16
Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #17
Electric Monk Nov 2013 #18

Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:30 AM

1. I still... Despite everything... Have faith in human ingenuity

... To either reverse climate change or adapt to the changes.

As humans, we fucked up by not stopping this earlier.

The next goal for scientists is to find a way to adapt to the coming changes...


This will mean genetic engineered crops that can grow in harsher climates.
Better and cheaper water purification.
Accelerated transitioning to non fossil fuel energy solutions.


We are a resilient species. We will go through some pain for sure, but we will find a way.

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:45 AM

4. I think you're right. We won't go meekly into the night.

Plan B is space mirrors to offset some of the warming. But we also need to move like crazy on reducing the amount of C02 we keep pumping into the atmosphere.

Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 5, 2013, 12:02 PM

7. WE are a resilient species, but the vast majority of species are not

If we break the food chain, it won't matter than we can engineer modified crops or build dwellings that protect us from extreeme conditions; eveything else will die and take us with it. We need to actually reverse global warming, as you suggested, because adapting won't do it.

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 5, 2013, 07:27 PM

11. Human beings will adapt. Just not all seven billion.

Maybe two billion, if we're lucky.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:33 AM

2. But we'll hurl back the challenges, using Twitter, Facebook and some new apps!

Call Of Duty 11 - Planetary Repairmen - coming soon to a Best Buy near you!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:42 AM

3. The end of the world as we know it.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:13 AM

5. in bed

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:58 AM

6. Time to wake up

The people are ready. The leadership needs to emerge. If we wait for a major effort until Bangladesh is underwater or someother mega catastrophe, it will truly be too late.

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Response to autorank (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 5, 2013, 12:51 PM

8. "The People are ready"....

...as long as they personally don't have to give up anything
or suffer the slightest inconvenience.




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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 5, 2013, 12:54 PM

9. I remember when the Cover of Time said "God is Dead"

We survived that....

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 5, 2013, 01:28 PM

10. I think I'll be okay. I and anyone my age or older.

The younger generations are in for rough times ahead, though.

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Response to Quantess (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:30 PM

12. I for one

 

welcome the coming zombie apocalypse.


But seriously, human global warming was never really going to be stopped since all those third and second world countries weren't going to halt industrialization at any cost.

What's likely going to happen is the world will warm through the rest of century until the combination of green tech, frankenmeat, and lower population growth stabilizes what seems to be Armageddon to us.

Not to say there won't be change, but when has the world maintained the status quo?

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Response to CFLDem (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:20 PM

13. Is this comedy? I was actually being dead serious.

Go ahead and laugh it up, buddy.

The fact of the matter is that if your personal expected lifespan is only going to last another 40 or 50 years, then you should be like everyone else: think of the earth like a cheap hotel room you can trash, and never think twice about when you leave.
(edit to add this part is obvious satire)


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Response to Quantess (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 6, 2013, 05:49 PM

14. I'm just injecting a little rationality into the climate madness.

 

There's no denial that humans are dramatically affecting the environment.

The extent and severity of the damage is still unknown. When I was a kid, the same climate alarmists were claiming the Statue of Liberty would be half-way under water by now.

Chances are it's more hyperbole. I welcome the apocalypse because it's not going to happen.

The momentum is behind clean technologies like electric cars, solar panels, and frankenmeat. This hyperbole only serves to distract the grandeur of those up and coming successes and isolate environmentalism from the mainstream.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 6, 2013, 06:37 PM

15. K & R !!!


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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 6, 2013, 06:57 PM

16. "Where were you when they told us the world as we know it is over?" Not the impression I got, TBH...

Same thing also goes for his claim that, "In fact, the totality of the draft makes it clear that we’ve gone too far for too long to avoid the dire consequences of man made climate change.", which isn't, btw actually supported by any evidence, including what comes from the IPCC.

However, though, he does manage to make some good points, and this is perhaps the best one:

The responsibility for the calamities awaiting us needs to be clearly assigned. When you hear pundits talk about how we’re all responsible, that represents a misinformed opinion or propaganda by the elites that enabled this most dismal future. The failure to reach consensus until the apparent point of no return required deliberate denial of the facts as they emerged. The climate change deniers who argue from no scientific basis other than the title of scientist somewhere receive vast support from those who have no desire to clean up cars, factories, toxic waste production, etc. The media that claims that there are two sides to every issue are in the service of the financial and political elite that can only imagine a world with shrinking resources and wealth. Through their lack of imagination, denial, and negligence, they’ve made their vision come true. It’s their fault.


I would add, too, that climate doomsayers also share some of the responsibility as well, in recent years; constant predictions of gloom-and-doom have turned many who would have otherwise been receptive to the science, off from it, and some of them may be hard to recover.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Nov 6, 2013, 07:27 PM

17. Summer of 1987.

Old news.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 9, 2013, 12:07 AM

18. After the 3rd "flood of the century" in two decades.

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