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[BeyondGeography]

1. Must be one of those razorback things

Whatever it is, some people just never know when to stfu.

[bigtree]

2. like someone else said

just how lucky is a dog with . . .

[JimboBillyBubbaBob]

4. Yeah,

I can hear them saying such down there. I recall that expression somewhere back in time. I always thought, "Now that's kind of unusual, but somehow I can sense what it means.

[seabeyond]

3. pretty damn stupid clinton... for whatever reason he would say this shit out loud. nt

[bigtree]

11. I'd have thought Halperin was lying

. . . if he didn't write that Clinton was repeating it.

My two cents says this represents the worst of Clinton politics - as lurid as it's nauseatingly superior. Wouldn't be surprised though to find it either utterly true or typically false from Halperin.

[BlueCaliDem]

14. +1 eom

[BootinUp]

21. Yes. Halperin is little better than Drudge

In fact he aspires to drudge.

[monmouth3]

31. I now fully understand why the President stated he can take Clinton in doses. n/t

[fried eggs]

96. LOL. I wonder if he makes a lot of sex jokes?

The "lucky" 2 dicked dog reference is just... odd... but it does provide insight into where his head is at.

[VanillaRhapsody]

77. Why it is said all the time in the south....I have said itself

"luckier than a 2 dick dog".

I don't see the big deal...or are you worried dogs will be insulted...

[NuclearDem]

5. I...what?

Well that may be a contender for stupidest fucking thing I've read in a while.

[TwilightGardener]

6. Ugh. And it's just the beginning of the coming Clinton undermining of Obama.

[IDemo]

9. Sounds more like the Big Dog undermining of Hillary

[Hekate]

45. It's the beginning of the undermining of all things Clinton, i.e. Hillary's run

There are legions of professional Clinton-haters still out there, and they are starting to crawl out of the wordwork in 3....2...1... ah! there they are now.

People -- even politicians -- say all kinds of things in private that they would not say in public. The Big Dog (ha!) saying that about Obama (if he said it) falls into that category. Used to be we'd just say it was "earthy" -- now we get a lot of faux outrage.

[Walk away]

80. The only thing that will undermine Hillary's run will be Democrats cutting...

their own throats.

[Brickbat]

7. Ha! A classic.

I love campaign post-mortems.

[Go Vols]

41. Yep,heard it all my life

when I am living here.

[DirkGently]

10. Clinton projecting his own vision of happiness?

Funny though. Reminds me of a book of colorful Southern expressions someone gave me once.

One was, "Happier than a dead pig in sunshine." Even harder to cipher how that one works.

[BlueCaliDem]

13. "Happier than a dead pig in sunshine."

Oh, I luvs me some Southern idioms!

[arely staircase]

43. two guys are watching a dog, eh hem

well you know what they do. first guy says to the second one, "I wish I could do that." Second guy says "that dog would bite you."

[BlueCaliDem]

68. ROFL! eom

[Whisp]

71. omg. That is one of the very very few jokes I can remember.

I saw this guy called Uncle Dirty in some stand up place in New York, early 80s.

I am soooo bad at telling jokes, but that one works all the time. heh hehe.

[Monk06]

82. It goes, "Wish I could do that" The other guy says, "I you do you best pet him first."

[Eleanors38]

97. Of course, Clinton yaps at the heels of LBJ:

What did the tomcat say after making love to the skunk? "I've enjoyed about as much of this as I can stand!"

Allegedly uttered to a friend who asked him how it felt to "pull out" of his second run for the presidency.

[HappyMe]

12. Heh!

My husband works with a couple of guys from Georgia. They have all sorts of those kind of sayings.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

15. Lucky?

Seems like it would be a burden.

[Motown_Johnny]

16. The thing that bothers me about this quote is the context.

The Big Dog is saying Pres. Obama is lucky because of how inept Romney and his campaign was.

Does nobody remember Sen. Dole and his campaign?

IMO, Bill must have been luckier than a dog with three dicks.

[GoCubsGo]

25. Yep.

Sounds like ol' Bill is projecting here.

[MADem]

29. Bob Dole's campaign may have been inept, but Bob Dole was not an inept speaker.

In fact, in the right circumstances, Bob Dole, with his Boardwalk Empire-like "Remus" way of referring to himself, was an absolutely riveting speaker. He had a wit that was sharp as a damn razor.

Clinton's luck came from the fact that, good as Bob Dole was at spinning a yarn, Clinton was way, way, WAY better, and his message of empathy and mitigators for those who were caught in the whole "outsourcing" trend, was what did it for Clinton.

I haven't heard that expression in forty or fifty years, but I have heard it. I think people getting "outraged" about it are being silly. He's making a comparison that is apt, given the circumstance. Dogs who have not been neutered LIKE to reproduce. Their enthusiasm and joy for the practice knows no bounds. They'll do it as often as they're physically able, to the point of staggering and falling down, if left to their own devices. It's simply an acknowledgement of a fact of bygone country life (sex education classes, back in the old days before the schools took that on and taught "Just say no" as a strategy). Bill, as we all learned years ago, was "a hard dog to keep on the porch" so he should know how a lucky dog feels.

[Motown_Johnny]

30. Even so, he should not have gone there.

The idea that somehow Pres. Obama just got lucky is not one that I give any credence to whatsoever.

Pres. Clinton easily got just as lucky, if not more so. Dole's campaign was a shambles.

[MADem]

48. I did not take what he said as "Obama just got lucky" at all.

First, take out the "just"--because in no way does that come across in his comment.

And there was nothing wrong with "going there" because it's a funny old saying, and only a prude would take issue with it.

I took it as him saying "How wonderful for Obama, he got a good hand, for a change!" Not "I hate and resent that man."

Look, if Bill Clinton really wanted to fuck Barack Obama over, he wouldn't have served as "Explainer in Chief" and helped POTUS over that rough spot during the convention.

How soon some people forget!!!

I also think that some people, not just here on DU, but everywhere in the anonymous virtual world, don't get their jollies unless there's a perception of a knock-down drag-out, a catfight, a hissy fit, or some kind of pointless venality.

My attitude towards Clinton's comments are this--he was glad that Obama was able to get his second term, and pleased, too, that he didn't have an opponent of the McCain-Palin caliber (in terms of gloves-off viciousness and willingness to play dirty, not in terms of quality of nominees). He knew that with the GOP vote rigging and other shenanigans, that if it had been at all an uphill climb, they might have muddied the waters, and he was pleased that it went the way it did.

I think people should read carefully, contextually, and not assume the worst. Obama WILL be helping Hillary Clinton in her campaign, you know--one hand washes the other. HRC and WJC have helped him plenty over the past eight years, and he will--with open heart and pleasure-- return the favor. It's what people on the SAME TEAM do.

[Motown_Johnny]

58. I don't care about the two dick thing

But to me it really does sound like Clinton was saying that Obama just got lucky.

It is right up there with "Jesse Jackson won South Carolina too".

It is diminishing Pres. Obama's accomplishment.

[MADem]

62. We're just going to have to agree to disagree.

I saw it as nothing more than accurate political analysis. Obama did get lucky--he could have had someone who was more charismatic, competent, and a better public speaker than Dinky Mitt as his opponent. Someone who was a bit more slash-and-burn. Imagine Obama running against someone like Christie, who likes to get in people's faces? It wouldn't have been pretty. It could have gotten messy, indeed.

That Mitt actually managed to con the RNC was pure LUCK--along with the dogged hubris and cash of Mitt and his money pals pushing that dumbass dressage-horse-dork to the nomination. Thank heaven for a wingnut party in disarray.

[Motown_Johnny]

67. Who would that have been? Perry? Cain? Bachmann?

Romney was the best they had and they gave it their best shot.

Your point of view makes no sense. The term "got lucky" implies that skill was not involved.

I guess agreeing to disagree is the best possible way to go here.


Edit to add: Colin Powell was a possible candidate back in "96, Want to talk about getting lucky on who the opponent was.....

[MADem]

69. The term "got lucky" does NOT imply that there was no skill involved. That's in YOUR head.

Bill Clinton "got lucky" having a three way race in 92 and 96.

Are you saying he is an unskilled politician because he "got lucky?"

Stop being so painfully obvious.

Romney was not the best they had, even that nitwit Pawlenty would have run a better campaign--he was the one with the most money and drive (to avenge his "deddy" and we've seen that before). He bigfooted his way into the nomination by sheer force of will and cash; no one else had the money he had, he had the business connections to whom he made promises, the party was in disarray, and he took advantage of that.

Colin Powell was NEVER a potential candidate. He was talked about, but he never had any intention of running--he was uninterested in getting killed, for starters (I guess no one remembers the jokes that so many comedians made, about a possible President Powell picking a Mexican American VP to keep the hating racists from shooting him?), and second, his wife wouldn't let him. Spend five minutes with Alma and you'll understand that, clearly. And mark my words--she's the boss in that household. If she says NO, the answer is NO.

[arely staircase]

44. I felt started feeling sorry for Dole

[Drunken Irishman]

53. Bill Clinton was the luckiest politician ever...

1) All the big hitters on the Democratic side in 1992 decided to bow out of the primary with Bush's approval soaring. Mario Cuomo certainly would have handed Clinton his tail in that primary had he run - but alas, the biggest competition was the boring Tsongas, who had questions about his health, and an odd Jerry Brown. Clinton fantastically came back from the brink - but the field in '92 was weak and he benefited from it.

2) Bush had an approval rating in the 30s. Republicans had controlled the White House for twelve years. The economy was in the tank. Crime was high. The deficit was high - and he still couldn't muster 50% of the vote.

3) As you said, Bob Dole. Dole was as inept as Romney - but also proclaimed to be out of touch, too old and too tired to serve as president. Hell, Dole made McCain look young, even though I suspect McCain was probably older when he ran for president?

Clinton lucked out - and even then, in both his elections, he still couldn't break 50%.

[MADem]

63. Clinton will be the first to tell you that, if not for Ross Perot, his life might

have been very different indeed. He knows he was a lucky dog, too.

Bush's flash of "popularity" was a transient thing, having to do with Desert Shield/Desert Storm. He couldn't run on "brave Kuwaiti people" and babies in incubators. It had no staying power.

People forget that there were THREE people in those two Presidential races, not two. It's hard to break fifty when there's three people running. And Clinton took the lion's share in 92--the breakdown was Clinton: 43.0%--Bush 37.5%--Perot 18.9%. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1992

He IMPROVED his percentage of the vote four years later--again, in a three way field, and took 49.2 percent of the vote in that 1996 contest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1996

[bemildred]

17. Kind of lets you know where his "head" is at. nt

[mitchtv]

18. Ho Hum

not particularly on point,nor funny, certainly nothing to read into, nor does it portend anything. BFD, colorful is about all I can say.

[roamer65]

19. Sounds like Hillary is gonna run in 2016.

He wouldn't be talking like this unless she was planning on running in '16.

[backscatter712]

20. I know, I'm a horrible person... but I laughed! n/t

[stillcool]

22. typical.

[tularetom]

23. Sorry, I don't get it

Why is a dog with two dicks lucky?

Or is this just another case of Clinton trying to be clever?

It might be helpful if he'd just shut the fuck up.

[GoCubsGo]

26. Consider his history.

It shouldn't be surprising that a guy who can't keep his own dick in his pants would think that having two of them is somehow "lucky".

[La Lioness Priyanka]

35. did you think he should have just shut up when he spoke for obama at the dem convention?

or campaigned for him till he lost his voice in 2012?

[MADem]

49. Because un-neutered dogs take great joy in the opportunity to reproduce.

The force is strong with them, to the point that they won't eat, sleep, or rest while the iron, as it were, is hot.

No one wanted Clinton to "shut the fuck up" when he was playing "Explainer in Chief" when his speech revitalized Obama's campaign at the convention, now, were they?

I think people would do well to not assume the worst about a leader who had two Peace and Prosperity terms and is one of the greatest humanitarians in recent history. This is not the "Twilight" series, only with Presidents instead of vampire heart-throbs--they are on the same damn team.

[arely staircase]

50. well put

your explanation of horny dog metaphors and politics.

[Throd]

72. I think having two dicks would be problematic. I like having just one.

[arthritisR_US]

24. A dog with two dicks will need a female with two

vagina's so I don't think it's too damn lucky...

[Frustratedlady]

27. I suppose two females would be a stretch?

Shades of ornery Bill pop out from time to time. I hope he doesn't continue that type of rhetoric during the campaign if Hillary runs. It might backfire on him.

[arthritisR_US]

28. I agree, I think it would backfire royally! nt

[obliviously]

56. Apparently

You ain't been around much.

[arthritisR_US]

59. Clearly! nt

[MADem]

70. No. The idea is that the dog can continue on with other girlfriends without the

necessity to stop and "recover," as it were.

Un-neutered dogs are quite promiscuous; what with all the spaying and neutering in USA now, children don't get those rather shocking "countryside" lessons that used to be common even in more settled and urban communities.

I can remember neighbors "turning the hose on" dogs engaged in coitus in their front yards when I was a kid, and telling the curious chidren gawking to "Run along now, go play---pay no attention to that...." Now, with leash laws and spay/neuter, children don't see that kind of thing anymore.

[arthritisR_US]

73. Thanks, his meaning was completely lost to me. nt

[Eleanors38]

98. That puts Hillary into a whole new light!

[Whisp]

32. More like hard work and not luck, Mr. Bill.

Your hardest work was sweating and lying about where your dick was, for a year long nonsense that didn't have to happen.

Dickhead.

[B Calm]

33. For Bill would that mean the dog has two brains?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

34. anyone who becomes president is luckier than a dog with two dicks

personality/ambition etc doesn't cut it, a certain amount of right place/right time is necessary

i dont know what this big controversy is but then again i think you add the word clinton before any sentence and some people will find something incredibly objectionable about that sentence

[wyldwolf]

37. exactly

Some of the vitriol in this thread comes from the fact a Clinton said it. Some comes from a knee-jerk reaction to a southernism. And some from the fact President Obama WAS lucky in how certain things broke his way and how Romney and the GOP kept shooting themselves in the foot. No amount of political skill could make those things happen.

[Beacool]

76. Of course, if any other Southern democrat was alleged to have said it,

they would be laughing.

This place might as well be called "Almost Democratic Underground, unless you support anyone named Clinton".

[Nine]

36. Why is everyone jumping on Bill?

He didn't say it as a put-down. He was trying to help Obama's team, and he gave some good advice:

Though the first debate brought the incumbent’s streak of good fortune to a crashing halt, Clinton was insistent that the Obamans not overreact.... Clinton huddled with Obama and repeated the instructions.

Don’t try to make up the ground you lost, the Big Dog said. Just be yourself.

[MADem]

64. Exactly.

It's because some folks just NEED a cage match, even if it is invented in their own heads. It's possible that there are two good guys, as well as two lucky guys, in this story line.

Bill Clinton is an astute politician. He's also a good guy, notwithstanding his intemperance in his younger years. If he weren't a good guy, HRC wouldn't continue to put up with him.

He's no saint, but who is? The minute you canonize someone they're bound to disappoint you...!

[penultimate]

38. Wait. Whaaa? That's one of the strangest sayings I've ever heard.

[Iggo]

39. So?

[panader0]

40. A guy goes to the doctor for an exam.

The doctor says, "Do you realize that you have five penises?"
The guy says "Yeah".
The doctor asks "How do your pants fit?"
"Like a glove."

[PragmaticLiberal]

42. I think you guys are blowing that one Clinton comment way out of proportion.

Personally, I was much more interested in how this piece "humanized" the President.

[HipChick]

46. It's the truth...I thought it was funny..

[NightWatcher]

47. I thought the phrase was "happier than a puppy with two peckers"

oh well, live and learn

[Deep13]

51. What the hell does that mean? nt

[msanthrope]

52. Christ, I love BillClinton. I hope Hillary runs just so I get to see him

on the campaign trail again.

[Drunken Irishman]

54. This entire piece shows how amazing Obama is as a human being...

And why we're lucky to have him as our president.

[Drunken Irishman]

55. [Michelle] pronounced that Barack had lost only because “Romney is a really good liar.”

God, I love Michelle!

[Uben]

57. How bout this?

He's luckier than a dung beetle in a room full of republicans.

[bigtree]

60. lol

[Jamaal510]

61. I get the context,

but I don't get why a dog would want more than 1 genitalia.

[Warren DeMontague]

65. Dude certainly has a way with words.

....





Beyond that... I'm just not feeling the outrage, sorry.

[Hobo]

66. Haters are gonna hate, and there are a lot

of haters for the "Big Dog". I didn't see the outrage when the "Big Dog" went to the convention and saved the president's campaign.


Hobo

[Beacool]

78. This...............

[Little Star]

84. Bingo

[Enrique]

74. he's no Dan Rather

[Beacool]

75. I would like to know why do people take hearsay as fact???????

I'm so tired of this bullshit!!!!!!!!!

If there's anything that anyone thinks that X person said, let's tar and feather that person without an iota of proof. Of course there's an added incentive if that person happens to be a Clinton.

This damn place feels like a RW site most of the time when there's a whiff of anything Clinton in the air.

Sickening............

[MADem]

81. What's worse is when people take a cheerful, well-meaning remark, the equivalent of

"He caught a lucky break, he could have faced a worse opponent, he dodged a bullet" and twist it mercilessly to try to make it seem like he is saying "The guy was stoooooopid, good thing he got a lucky break, otherwise he wouldn't have prevailed."

It is sickening. It's shameful. It's pretty obvious, too.

Oh well. The admins have some meat to sink their teeth in, once election season starts.

[Beacool]

86. Exactly!!

If Bill did say it, he meant that Obama got a break, not that he wasn't capable or smart. Everybody knows perfectly well that to be successful one needs not just to be knowledgeable and hard working, but also to have a modicum of luck. I think that Bill felt sorry for Romney, he felt that he shouldn't be in politics. Of course Obama was the superior politician, Romney always sounded stiff and unnatural.

I'm tired of reading in a Democratic site so much crap against a couple who have wide support nationally. They are treated here as if they were members of the Tea Party. An 8 page article and he finds the quote about a joke that Bill supposedly said. Their words and actions are always twisted to give them the worst interpretation. I'm fed up with it!!!!!!

[MADem]

88. There is this false, dumbass narrative that it's CLINTON v. OBAMA.

That the primary continues, some how....

Of course, one has to ignore that HRC was Obama's SECSTATE, and Bill Clinton really helped energize POTUS's 2nd term campaign.

And then, there's this: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/11/03/obama-virginia-campaign-terry-mcauliffe-ken-cuccinelli/3412767/

McAuliffe is a Clinton stalwart from way-back-when, yet here's Obama, stumping for him....

[Beacool]

79. BTW, why did you post this, to be divisive?

I just went to the article and it's called "Intervention". It's also a very long piece, 8 pages to be precise. Out of all that the one thing you chose to post is an alleged joke made by Clinton?

If he did say it, it's a version of a Southern colloquialism:

"Happier than a puppy with two peters."

http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_sep2011/Redneck_Quotes.htm



Comment on this, it's far more consequential than Clinton's joke:

'I'm really good at killing people': New book claims President Obama bragged to aides about using drone strikes

President Barack Obama bragged to his aides that he's 'really good at killing people,' according to explosive claims in a new book about the 2012 presidential campaign.

The revelation comes at a time when Obama, who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009, has faced increasing criticism for his use of drones to target insurgents and terrorist suspects, particularly in Pakistan and Yemen.

The London-based Bureau of Investigative Journalism estimates that Obama has authorized 326 drone strikes. Since 2004, CIA unmanned aerial vehicles have killed 2,500 to 3,600 people - including up to 950 civilians.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2486809/Double-Down-Game-Change-2012-Obama-bragged-Im-really-good-killing-people.html

[Walk away]

83. It's just some early, misdirected Hillary hate...get uset to it.

I am actually thinking of dropping my DU contribution for the year and checking out until after the primaries. It got pretty crappy around here the last time Mrs Clinton ran.

[Beacool]

87. I think that the reflexive negative comments by the same crowd are beyond irritating,

they are disgraceful.

Please don't leave, otherwise this place would be even more barren of Clinton supporters. Far too many left in 2008 and never returned.

[bigtree]

90. you need to dig a little deeper before you make accusations like that

I challenge you to find more than a handful of folks here who have been as steadfast in my support of BOTH Clintons in my posting history here.

It's actually snap judgments like you've made here that contribute to and fuel the reactionary and divisive atmosphere that regularly infects our discussions.

[Walk away]

92. You may be Hillary's biggest fan but.....

you are doing a terrible job at fandom if this is your idea of being supportive. I'm sure you were sooooo surprised at the little mess you made!

And if you think that my calling your post a hateful attempt to stir up the old meme of "the Clintons are at it again dissing Obama", is some kind of outlier then check your responses.

[bigtree]

100. I've posted a huge amount of favorable Clinton stuff here over the years, to the displeasure of many

. . .and it's just pure bullshit to make up your own 'shitstirring' premise about why I posted this to call it 'hateful'.

Who made the statement? It's been defended, derided, laughed at, and celebrated in this thread. What did Clinton mean for folks to think when HE made it?

Is it your intention that folks should put their heads in the sand and ignore such profanity from a former president? Maybe you want me to ignore the fact that he's describing our president as a dog.

Fine. I did. I addressed the premise directly - several times here. Obama hasn't been 'lucky' as Clinton contended, as much as he's been an adept and often adroit politician. Clinton's statement is demeaning and self-serving to his own ego. It's also reflective of the worst of his politics and the worst of his personality.

Now, if you can't accept the myriads of supportive posts I've made on behalf of the Clintons, and, accept my criticisms of them, as well, then it's just going to be tough shit for you.

[Beacool]

93. Then why did you post something that you had to know would cause division?

The Clinton haters almost break their fingers running to their keyboards the minute there's a Clinton thread that gives them a chance to trash them. Why give them the opportunity?

BTW, I didn't contribute to the "reactionary and divisive atmosphere that regularly infects our discussions". I responded to the nasty crap that others wrote about Bill.

[bigtree]

99. cause division? A former president (apparently) made the statement about a sitting president

. . . I didn't invent it.

It's a bit of acrobatics for you to both defend the statement and then claim it's divisive to post it.

[Beacool]

101. There's nothing to defend.

IF he said it, which you and everybody has no clue whether he did say it, it was a joke. Nothing to cause this flurry of activity.

[Whisp]

102. but yet you are so sure that Obama said he is good at killing people.

and what Bill said could possibly be untrue.

Taken as one incident, what Bill said is not a big deal - there are all sorts of strange sayings in different parts of the world and different countries. But Bill has a problem with Obama, it's been shown many times that his 'big dog' status is threatened because the President is truly admired and respected in a way Mr. Clinton can never be. Ego is what it's mostly all about for Bill. He is getting pushed off the king of the hill and he doesn't like it.

[Beacool]

104. No, but if he wants to post something that really is worrisome,

What Obama allegedly said about being good at killing people is far more disturbing than Clinton's lame Southern joke.

Bill doesn't have a problem with Obama. On the other hand, you have problems with the Clintons. You spend a considerable time here bashing them.

[bigtree]

103. “Some jokes are less agreeable than others”

― Harriet Beecher Stowe

[Beacool]

105. As with most things, it's a matter of opinion.

[bigtree]

89. odd? Clinton sure made an effort to drive that point of his home

I don't personally believe Obama has been 'lucky', but I'm sure someone will take pains to defend that pov of Clinton's. I didn't happen to think it was such a big deal that he 'lost' that first debate, and I think all of the handwringing from the campaign and others was unnecessary and absurd. Politically, Pres. Obama has far surpassed Clinton's self-sabatoged presidency in accomplishment and dexterity. Attributing that success, generally, to luck is just sophistry; as false as his comment is lurid.

That's what compelled me to post this, aided, of course, by the very profane analogy Clinton was trying to make between a deformed dog and our nation's first black president.

The rest that you're detracting from his comments with deserves it's own thread. Silly really to assume that one comment or one part of that tainted article should deserve a response, and that pointing out one part of Clinton's blather should be viewed as 'divisive.'

It will be a long campaign for Hillary if she has to spend her time dealing with these types of offensive remarks. If this is some kind of defense of the Clintons (from a longtime Clinton supporter), then save it. Not even THEY expect these types of statements to be taken as benign and without guile.

And, remember, we're not politicians or the press here. It's inevitable that someone will draw your attention to trivialities like this one, because we don't spend all of our time dealing with policy and politics. Most folks look at a statement like that and wonder why a former president would have the temerity to publicly speak that way about a peer.

[Beacool]

95. First of all, there's no proof that Bill made that joke.

Second, even if he did make it, it was precisely that....a joke. In politics, as in life, luck plays a part in one's success (aside from knowledge and hard work). Bill was not trying to put down Obama, that's your interpretation. He would be the first one to admit that he too was lucky when he ran for president.

As for Obama surpassing Clinton, only time will tell. That's for historians to decide.

[c588415]

85. It was Bill Clinton's speech at the DNC is

what sealed the deal for Pres Obama's reelection in 2012. And I'm sure that when Hillary runs in 2016, Pres Obama will campaign for her. Why people are making such a big deal over Obama and Bill Clinton's little disagreements is beyond me.

[polichick]

91. The Big Dog's big fantasy, no doubt!

[fried eggs]

94. There is a grain of truth to that (not the two dick dog part)

I have no idea what the dog with 2 dicks reference is all about, but there is some truth about President Obama having some luck on his side.

Since January 2008, when the primaries began, look at how every so called scandal or crisis has turned out: With naysayers having egg all over their faces. It's quite remarkable.