The Good News... No More Jean Schmidt... The Bad News... No More Dennis Kucinich...

[WillyT]

According to MSNBC

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. My dear WillyT...

Well, you win some, and you lose some...

I'm sad about DK, but somehow I think he'll be back. He's a fighter.

[WillyT]

18. :)

[WillyT]

2. Info On Jean Schmidt

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/upset-in-ohio-rep-jean-schmidt-r-loses-primary-to-brad-wenstrup/2012/03/06/gIQA9b80vR_blog.html

[Firebrand Gary]

3. Schmidt? Is that the one with the Robert Palmer hairdoo? lol. n/t

[WillyT]

5. Here:

[Firebrand Gary]

6. Yep, that's the Congresswoman. Ugh, she was hardcore mean. Good......

[Graybeard]

12. Called a decorated Marine "a coward".

In 2005 Rep. John Murtha, who had been a Marine colonel in the Viet Nam war, called for all American troops to be withdrawn from Iraq.

On the House floor Schmidt said of Murtha, "Cowards cut and run..."

Ugly and mean doesn't begin to describe her.

[WillyT]

4. Info On Dennis Kucinich

Link: http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2012/03/kaptur-defeats.php

[WillyT]

8. And Mr. Kucinich Is Not Happy...

Congressman Dennis Kucinich and his wife Elizabeth Jane Kucinich speak to supporters at Rubin's Family Restaurant & Deli in Cleveland. THE BLADE/AMY E. VOIGT

<snip>

Mr. Kucinich returned to a Cleveland restaurant to announce he had lost, again thank supporters, but also had harsh words for Miss Kaptur of Toledo.

"I would like to be able to congratulate Congresswoman Kaptur but I do have to say that she ran a media campaign in the Cleveland media market that was utterly lacking in integrity with false statements half truths, [and] misrepresentations," he said. "I hope that is not the kind of representation she would provide to this community. And I don't think the people of Toledo have any idea of the kind of campaign that was run up in the Cleveland area."

<snip>

Link: http://www.toledoblade.com/State/2012/03/07/Kucinich-blasts-fellow-candidate-Kaptur-during-speech.html

[apocalypsehow]

11. His free-ride publicity-mongering platform for quixotic presidential runs just got cancelled.

Plus, the cushy Congressional salary.

I'd expect no less from an politician who has always been more keen to advance the personal political advancement of Dennis Kucinich, than the agenda of the Democratic Party.

The fact that he is pissing on the Democratic nominee who defeated him in the primary for the congressional seat she will now contest surprises me not in the least: Kucinich has always been selfish, petty, and spiteful in that way.

[DevonRex]

16. I'm shocked at his classless statement.

He made himself look pretty awful. He'd better not screw up her chances of beating the Republican.

[apocalypsehow]

23. I'm very disappointed he decided to go out that way. It was petty. Hopefully, we'l keep the seat.

[JDPriestly]

35. Dennis Kucinich is a man of great integrity.

He follows his conscience and has proved that he cannot be bought and will not run from intimidation. Unfortunately, he was running against another good Democrat, Marcy Kaptur. One of them had to lose so that one of them could win. I hope that Dennis Kucinich will find another roll in American politics. He is a great man and a great American. We need his example, his wisdom, his moral force.

[Honeycombe8]

15. Wow. Kaptur won in a landslide over him. It's the redistricting that's been going on.

And maybe a bit of incumbent booting out?

[apocalypsehow]

7. The latter is actually good news - if you're interested in sidelining laughingstocks

that routinely embarrass the Democratic Party on a national level.

UFO's - really? Vegan-chic - really? "Chemtrails" as some kind of existential threat requiring legislative action - really? One could go on and on about the silliness that constituted the legislative agenda of Perennial Presidential candidate and only sometime Congressman Dennis Kuchinich.

And that latter point is actually the most important: he was a crappy representative on behalf of his constituents. Ohio Democrats will be vastly better off thanks to his involuntary retirement from the U.S. Congress thanks to the primary results tonight.

[WillyT]

9. Yes... We Must Become More Republican To Succeed...

That's the ticket...

[apocalypsehow]

14. Rank dishonesty & distortion of what I stated and asserted in my reply. DK would be proud of you.

You absorbed his lessons in such matters well, obviously.

[WillyT]

17. Chill Out... He's More Of A Liberal Than You'll Ever Be...

From 1977 to 1979, Kucinich served as the 53rd mayor of Cleveland, Ohio, a tumultuous term in which he survived a recall election and was successful in a battle against selling the municipal electric utility before being defeated for reelection by George Voinovich.

Through his various governmental positions and campaigns, Kucinich has attracted attention for consistently delivering "the strongest liberal" perspective.[2] This perspective has been shown by his actions, such as bringing articles of impeachment against President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, and being the only Democratic candidate in the 2008 election to have voted against invading Iraq.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Kucinich

[apocalypsehow]

20. I'm chill, my friend. And if believing in UFO's & Chemtrails makes DK more "liberal" than me...

...I cheerfully concede the point.

Except, it doesn't.

[WillyT]

25. Yep... He's Fucking Crazy...

...bringing articles of impeachment against President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, and being the only Democratic candidate in the 2008 election to have voted against invading Iraq.

With that first part being where our current leader wants us to forgive and forget.

Cowardice...

But I'll concede the point that my life-long party no longer has any balls or principles...

It doesn't.

[frylock]

37. you want to piss about "rank dishonesty" after running that UFO shit?!

take a look in the fucking mirror. DK never EVER brought up UFOs. it was shirley mclaine that mentioned it and the "librul" media that ran with it.

[apocalypsehow]

40. False. It was St. Dennis who told Shirley MacLaine that he'd spotted a flying saucer from her house,

and she simply reported that fact in her autobiography. When asked about it in one of the Democratic presidential debates, "DK" confirmed what she had written, and further made himself look ridiculous.

Yet another example of an "DK" fan, consumed with bitterness, engaging in rank dishonesty.

[dionysus]

10. and boom goes the dynamite. n/t

[RC]

19. It is obvious that some do not understand

political leanings very well. The country just slipped a bit more to the right. The two campaigns shows that.

[Matariki]

21. He has integrity.

[white_wolf]

28. Yeah it's great we lost one of the few progessive congressman we had.

Someone who has stood by his principles ever since he got to D.C. Someone who opposed the Patriot Act, someone whose views on torture, illegal wars, etc. does not change depending on what letter the President has by his name. It's a bad sign when people care more about advancing the agenda of a party than the country.

[WillyT]

30. Oh Man... That's So 1999, Don't Ya Know...

We switched to Neo-Liberalism as soon as we were attacked...



And the more Republicans that join our party, the better... Right... Right... Right... Right...

[Ikonoklast]

41. Dennis changed his principles almost as often as he changed wives.

Dennis ran as, and was elected as a socially conservative, anti-gay marraige, anti-abortion candidate and congressman, and held those views and voted that way until until he decided to run for president.

He knew that those would be losing issues on the national scene, so he discarded them completely in order to garner votes, but up until 2002/2003, voted quite conservatively on almost every social issue.

You can say that he finally saw the light, or you can also say he made a strategic decision in order to further his political career.

The only real agenda Kucinich ever had.

[fascisthunter]

38. then let's start with you

[apocalypsehow]

39. "then let's start with you" - Yeah? How so?

[bigwillq]

13. That's democracy for you!

Long live it. I am supportive of the democratic process, even if some of the candidates I like lose.

[Warpy]

22. I think Kucinich is likely going to be more effective out of office

although I fully expect him to run for governor when Kasich is finally turned out on his sorry arse.

[Pryderi]

27. He could get a gig as a media pundit n/t

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

24. Let's be clear: Marcy Kaptur is a great progressive

Redistricting sucks and I wish we could have kept them both, but Dennis didn't lose to some milquetoast conservadem, should anyone rush to that conclusion.

[WillyT]

26. I Have No Problem With Kaptur...

just thought it sad that DK was gone...

And... should have counted to three to see the DINO Dance.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

29. I agree with you

my post wasn't directed at you, but rather at folks in other threads who assumed the worst about her.

[Oasis_]

31. Did anyone really expect

anything less during his concession speech? The man possesses absolutely zero class whatsoever, and this district and our city (Cleveland) are much better off. He was a total joke and complete failure as Mayor, just as he was during his reign of terror (and error) while he represented us in Congress.

Thank God for redistricting. Dennis was the Congressional equivalent of a slum landlord--and the city and district paid and paid many times over for his abhorrent neglect and complete inability to effectively represent his constituents.

Cleveland is making a remarkable turnaround with a plethora of projects and initiatives that should serve to revitalize the city. Finally ridding ourselves of Kucinich serves to greatly accelerate the process.

Good Riddance!!!

Oasis

[WillyT]

32. You Ain't Kidding...

Cleveland is making a remarkable turnaround with a plethora of projects and initiatives that should serve to revitalize the city. Finally ridding ourselves of Kucinich serves to greatly accelerate the process.

Link: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57344513/there-goes-the-neighborhood/

Yeah... Cleveland is definitely accelerating the process...

[fujiyama]

33. That newly carved out 9th district

is the epitome of gerrymandered districts. Take a look:



It's an odd looking sliver and covers over 100 miles.

I think Kaptur's win was smart for the district overall. She's brought projects back to her district - by having worked on the appropriations committee, undoubtedly one of the more powerful committees in the House - and she may end up heading it if Dems take back the House. I don't care how outspoken Dennis may be. Ultimately you need to deliver the goods to your constituents. Kaptur sounds like a hard working progressive congress woman.

[progressoid]

36. Looks like most of those districts have been gerrymandered.

Good grief.

[cascadiance]

34. Now I wonder if he'd run in Washington, or even better yet as my congressman to replace David Wu...

I was thinking of writing to him at the time that David Wu was in trouble to run if Wu resigned at the end of his term instead of mid term, since it was close to the state of Washington where he was considering running with the additional seat being added there. And here he wouldn't have had to run against a incumbent in the primary.

But when Wu left early and we had the special election, I knew he wouldn't jump away from his district mid term so it was out of the question then.

Anyway, I think I do like that Suzanne Bonamici won the special election and has a woman now in our congressional delegation here in Oregon.

I wonder if his earlier consideration of moving to Washington to run there worked against him in the primary in that Ohio district.