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Tue Oct 29, 2013, 07:58 PM

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Anyone have any experience with it? Deep frownlines are not helpful when teaching young children because looking angry when you arent doesnt put certain kids at ease.

Edited to say I did it. It should take four days for results. Hurt way less than my tattoos.

I also got some filler in the "parenthes" around my mouth. That already looks better.

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arely staircase Oct 2013 OP
dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #1
arely staircase Oct 2013 #3
dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #7
arely staircase Oct 2013 #9
dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #11
arely staircase Oct 2013 #12
Laffy Kat Oct 2013 #38
arely staircase Oct 2013 #43
Coexist Oct 2013 #2
Control-Z Oct 2013 #14
Coexist Oct 2013 #18
JaneyVee Oct 2013 #4
Cleita Oct 2013 #5
arely staircase Oct 2013 #6
elehhhhna Oct 2013 #8
arely staircase Oct 2013 #10
cry baby Oct 2013 #17
Laffy Kat Oct 2013 #40
RiffRandell Oct 2013 #13
arely staircase Oct 2013 #15
RiffRandell Oct 2013 #22
lonestarnot Oct 2013 #16
arely staircase Oct 2013 #21
lonestarnot Oct 2013 #44
arely staircase Oct 2013 #34
lonestarnot Oct 2013 #46
arely staircase Oct 2013 #47
lonestarnot Oct 2013 #48
Name removed Oct 2013 #19
ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #20
arely staircase Oct 2013 #23
BainsBane Oct 2013 #25
ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #26
arely staircase Oct 2013 #27
BainsBane Oct 2013 #29
arely staircase Oct 2013 #30
BainsBane Oct 2013 #32
longship Oct 2013 #24
okaawhatever Oct 2013 #28
phylny Oct 2013 #31
arely staircase Oct 2013 #35
okaawhatever Oct 2013 #37
tammywammy Oct 2013 #33
arely staircase Oct 2013 #36
tammywammy Oct 2013 #39
ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #41
jmowreader Oct 2013 #42
arely staircase Oct 2013 #45

Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:01 PM

1. Isn't just smiling sufficient ?

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:05 PM

3. apparently not for some

Im not someone trying to hang on to my youth. It isnt a dorian grey thing. I can actually look mean when smiling and laughing. Deep creases from years in politics and PR.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:10 PM

7. Its called character.

Only person I knew who had botox treatment topped herself when it didn't work out as expected. That was very very sad.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:12 PM

9. well that wouldnt happen in my case

If it doesnt work it just doesnt. Like I said it isnt a pining for more youthful days.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:15 PM

11. In the case I mentioned

she was trying to look younger than her early fifties. What a fucking waste - I thought she looked just great as she was.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:16 PM

12. I dont want to look younger

Just not angry.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:05 PM

38. I get it every six months.

Love it. You're probably talking about "marionette lines" (hate the name, but it's a good description). Botox only works on wrinkles, for the marionette lines you need a good filler. I get both the filler and Botox at the same time x2/year. Takes YEARS off!

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #38)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:38 PM

43. thanks

I am probably going to do it. We have a very good doctor in town. He recomends fillers for my "parenthes" around my mouth but says the botox should take care of the angry frown which is all I care bout now. May do the other stuff later.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:03 PM

2. my daughter had it prescribed off label for headaches

she had a terrible reaction landing her in the hospital for 3 days.

Her head swelled up terribly.

That said, she looked much younger than her 18 years for a couple months.

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Response to Coexist (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:24 PM

14. I had botox for migraine.

And also had a terrible reaction. I was deathly ill for a week. It felt like I'd been poisoned - which I had.

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Response to Control-Z (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:30 PM

18. wow.. correlation.

very interesting.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:05 PM

4. Have friends who swear by it. Could have complications though.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:06 PM

5. I like it but can't afford it.

If done by a qualified doctor, it does improve ones appearance. Also if you have the money, one of the injectables that last longer like Restalyne might be more to your liking. Botox is only good for a couple of months..


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Response to Cleita (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:09 PM

6. yeah it is expensive

But the deep frownlines do seem to make a lot of kids think I am angry or mean. So I am considering it as a professional investment.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:10 PM

8. love it

no mad face. I don't do the forehead or crowsfeet - those are cool. The mad lines between the brows, yes. Five painless pricks across the brow.It wears off in 4 months.
Go to a plastic surgeon. They know the underlying musculature of the face.

It also gives you a bit of a brow lift and makes the bags under the eyes recede. SHots for crowsfeet (at least for me) make the bags bigger and give you a dead eyed smile.

Try it.

I'm 54 tomorrow and I've been doing it @ 3x per year for about 4 years.

Love it.

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Response to elehhhhna (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:14 PM

10. yeah and that's all I want is to lose the angry between the brows

I look like I am frowning when im totally relaxed and happy.

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Response to elehhhhna (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:30 PM

17. Happy Birthday 1 day early! nt

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Response to elehhhhna (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:08 PM

40. I agree about going to an M.D.

I go to a cosmetic surgeon (face only). I would never go to a non-M.D.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:23 PM

13. I'm considering it.

I have two lines on my forehead that bother me....I use good moisturizer every night and luckily have good genes as my Mom doesn't have many wrinkles. I love being tan and get really tan in the summer which is going to bite me in the ass some day.

My friend is an aesthetician that says I wouldn't need that much...she does a lot of stuff to her face as it's free but I wouldn't mess with my lips.

My husband thinks it's a stupid idea but I may put it on my xmas list.

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Response to RiffRandell (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:28 PM

15. what moisturizer do you use

I avoid anyrhing with fragrance because I have read it is counter productive.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:44 PM

22. Honestly, I use this Loreal product.

My friend used to sell me all kinds of products but even with her discount it end up costing me 50 bucks for a tiny bottle.

I can't find the review as I have been using it for years but it was highly rated. I am a former smoker (and sometimes cheat) and noticed one of those lines above my lips and freaked out....I'm thinking I'm going to turn into Juno from Beetlejuice.

Started using the Loreal and it went away after 3 weeks. I go through a jar once a week but have no crows feet or any other wrinkles....just those 2 damn lines.

I'm also interested in Cindy Crawford's line....she looks great!


http://www.lorealparisusa.com/en/Products/Skin-Care/Moisturizers/RevitaLift-Anti-Wrinkle-Firming-Night-Cream.aspx


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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:28 PM

16. I thought this may be a thread about the blonde bimbo. I've made up my mind not to worry about such

Wrinkles hmmmmf.

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:44 PM

21. really me neither

The crows feet dont bother me. I have actually enjoyed entering middle age. Frankly I have earned my wrinkles and I eat right excercise etc. Like I said I just have developed deep creases in my brow that have evoked enough why are you mad? From eight year-olds and parents have told me their kids think I look angry. Not most but enough. And I know damned well its because of my constant frowns. So if a couple of shots between the eyes solve that problem I am willing to do that. I got them from years of political high stress PR work. I became a teacher to get away from all that and took a giant income cut to do something I love. So the angry furrowed brow is a hangover from those days and I have researched it and its potential side effects and am leaning toward smoothing that out. Trust me like I said I am perfectly fine looking forty something. But angry looking forty something is counter productive with some of the eighr year-olds I love and work with.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #21)

Wed Oct 30, 2013, 08:30 PM

44. So what are you saying then, kids can't love an old frownie face?

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:00 PM

34. I missed this one

Who is the blond "bimbo"?

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #34)

Wed Oct 30, 2013, 08:30 PM

46. No you couldn't have.

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #46)

Wed Oct 30, 2013, 08:31 PM

47. no seriously nt

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:40 PM

20. My husband gets it for leg spasms

For his MS

I know few people who use it cosmetically, if it's overdone, they start to look a little strange--probably scarier to kids, who have learned natural expressions. In moderation it looks fine.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #20)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:49 PM

23. exactly

I have seen fifty something with brows as smooth as a baby's skin and that would be equally as unerving as my frown.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:13 PM

25. Some people don't get lines

I can't even make myself have lines in my forehead when I scrunch it up. I don't know why, I just don't. I'll be 52 on Saturday and I don't have any wrinkles. My eye lids droop a bit though.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #25)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:15 PM

26. I got a few but I'm ok with them

I have a few interesting scars I'm ok with as well.



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Response to BainsBane (Reply #25)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:18 PM

27. good genes

and clean living maybe.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #27)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:19 PM

29. I avoid the sun

and genes, yes. I have my mother's Irish skin.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #29)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:22 PM

30. oh boy

The women my age who back in high school hit the tanning beds regularly look sixty now. They are in their mifv 40s

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #30)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:53 PM

32. Yep, the sun and smoking are the worst

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:02 PM

24. Botulism toxin?

It has uses in neurological medicine. There's no way I would use it for cosmetics.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:18 PM

28. I have used it and Restalyne. I love them both. I first tried it because of the benefits for

migraines. It did help, but I also liked what it did for my appearance. Restalyne did wonders too. I didn't have a reaction at all. No side effects, nothing. It lasts about six months and the Restalyne about a year. My biggest problem is the crease between my eyebrows. It's pretty noticeable and the botox relaxes it. I did have a highly qualified physician do it the first two times and the third time it was by a nurse practitioner who had done over one thousand injections. Good luck. I'd definitely do it. If you're concerned about a reaction, they may be able to test. I don't know.

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Response to okaawhatever (Reply #28)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:52 PM

31. I agree completely wrt botox.

I've had it done about 6 times in my life between my brows. Smooths out fairly quickly, and lasts about 3 months or so for me. No side effects whatsoever.

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Response to okaawhatever (Reply #28)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:01 PM

35. resetalyn is a filler? nt

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #35)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:04 PM

37. Yes, Restalyne costs more but lasts longer. nt

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:56 PM

33. There was an article on Jezebel not to long ago

They called it "resting bitch face". Where you look upset or angry even when you're not.

Why I Love My Bitchy Resting Face
http://jezebel.com/why-i-love-my-bitchy-resting-face-514067148

Is Bitchy Resting Face Over? Or Is It Just the Beginning?
http://jezebel.com/is-bitchy-resting-face-over-or-is-it-just-the-beginnin-646947759

I've never had botox, but if you think it'll help with the kiddos then I guess what does it hurt to try?

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Response to tammywammy (Reply #33)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:04 PM

36. yes thatvis exactly my problem

I look angry (to some, enough) when I am totally happy. Especially little kids who I am trying to educate.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #36)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:06 PM

39. I say give it a try then.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #36)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:08 PM

41. It can't hurt to try

Right? It's pricey, but if it accomplishes what you want and you can afford it, why not?

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:09 PM

42. I know someone who had Botox done, and recommends against it

She had $1500 worth of it injected. It's supposed to last six months; on her it lasted six weeks. But she said it was great while it lasted.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Wed Oct 30, 2013, 08:30 PM

45. kicked for update nt

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