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Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:38 PM

Anyone know...can you still GET IN to National Parks?

I mean, will they block off the roads? Thinking of taking a drive to Bryce Canyon this weekend and since the season is alsmot over, don't want to delay it if I can't get in...don't care if the Visitor Center is open, so that's not an issue. Thanks.

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Reply Anyone know...can you still GET IN to National Parks? (Original post)
joeybee12 Oct 2013 OP
Earth_First Oct 2013 #1
Kolesar Oct 2013 #27
petronius Oct 2013 #2
Brickbat Oct 2013 #3
RebelOne Oct 2013 #4
FSogol Oct 2013 #5
virgogal Oct 2013 #14
cthulu2016 Oct 2013 #6
newfie11 Oct 2013 #7
Cleita Oct 2013 #8
frogmarch Oct 2013 #9
msanthrope Oct 2013 #10
onehandle Oct 2013 #11
msanthrope Oct 2013 #13
onehandle Oct 2013 #16
msanthrope Oct 2013 #17
egold2604 Oct 2013 #23
msanthrope Oct 2013 #24
struggle4progress Oct 2013 #12
brooklynite Oct 2013 #15
Xithras Oct 2013 #18
LordGlenconner Oct 2013 #19
joeybee12 Oct 2013 #20
Shrike47 Oct 2013 #21
joeybee12 Oct 2013 #22
msanthrope Oct 2013 #25
bpj62 Oct 2013 #26
NM_Birder Oct 2013 #28

Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:40 PM

1. Trailheads are always open...

You may have to adjust your itinerary a bit, or hike a ways further to your destination.

Be safe and plan accordingly.

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Response to Earth_First (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 02:16 PM

27. No:Day use visitors will be instructed to leave the park immediately as part of Phase 1 closures.

http://www.doi.gov/shutdown/fy2014/upload/NPS-contingency-plan.pdf
that means that we are not permitted to be there

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:41 PM

2. The article in the LA Times this morning (focused on Yosemite

and CA parks, but I'm sure nationally applicable) says gates will be closed and people arriving turned away. If you're already there, you get 48 hours to leave. I do wonder if they're going to scour the backcountry as well - most of my visits to places like that involve hitting a trailhead and getting as far away as possible...

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-federal-shutdown-hits-southland-20131001,0,7903431.story

--- Snip ---

One of the most jarring repercussions is the impending closure of 401 national parks that include Yosemite and Joshua Tree, among others.

"Anyone who's hoping to arrive, even for a day visit, would see gates closed and would be turned away," said Mike Litterst, a spokesman for the National Park Service. "There won't be any access."

Visitors already at park campgrounds or lodges will have 48 hours to leave.

--- Snip ---

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:42 PM

3. We had a state shutdown a couple years ago; state parks were gated, but there was nothing to stop

people from hiking, biking or canoeing in. They were assuming a lot of liability, however, because there was no support staff and they were, essentially, trespassing.

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:42 PM

4. Not here in North Georgia.

All gates are closed and locked for all the parks, according to local news channels.

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:42 PM

5. Closed. Here's the info the DOI

http://www.doi.gov/shutdown/fy2014/upload/NPS-Fact-Sheet.pdf
http://www.doi.gov/shutdown/fy2014/upload/NPS-FAQ.pdf

What about roads through parks?
While the national parks are closed, roads that serve as thruways will remain open.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:55 PM

14. The Arizona memorial in Pearl Harbor is closed too.

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:42 PM

6. Not legally

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:43 PM

7. Yellowstone is blocked

Except to folks with property inside. I heard gates are closed.

Don't know about anywhere else

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:46 PM

8. Many will still let you camp and visit. It's just you are on your

own if you have an emergency. No rangers on duty or personnel to clean things up. Usually, they will put up a sign to that effect.

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:48 PM

9. Mt. Rushmore is closed.

Mt. Rushmore National Memorial (U.S. National Park Service) is closed:

yesterday:

http://chadrad.com/newsstory.cfm?story=31194

PIERRE, S.D. (ASSOCIATED PRESS) - Mount Rushmore's spokeswoman says South Dakota employees could not be used to keep the memorial open.

Gov. Dennis Daugaard says he sent a letter to the director of the National Park Service offering personnel and resources if the government shuts down at midnight.

Park spokeswoman Maureen McGee-Dallinger says she hasn't seen the letter, but since it's a federal facility, only federal employees can operate it.

She says that means if the funding ends, the memorial will close.

That doesn't mean tourists would unable to see the memorial. It's visible from the road in front of it, and nearby Iron Mountain Road offers some of the best views available of the four faces.

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:48 PM

10. Here in Philly, people are still walking past Hall and the Bell, but can't get in. nt

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:51 PM

11. So much history just on the street in Philly.

My wife and I have been here for a couple of years, but we still wander around Center City in amazement.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:55 PM

13. Center City. If you say "Central" you get marked as a 'touron.' And the right answer to

"Pat's or Geno's?" is "Neither....Tony Luke's."

If you ever get a chance, go walk down the street I used to live on--Elfreth's Alley.

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:59 PM

16. Gah! I think autocorrect did that. I know better. Fixed it.

We love Elfreth's Alley. Went to an open house a few months back. I had to duck down going through inside doorways.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:01 PM

17. Damn you Autocorrect!!! Elfreth's was great, but a fishbowl. I had tourists

walk into my house and sit themselves down. And since I always did the holiday tour, I had no end of people in my house, pointing and remarking.

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:32 PM

23. excuse me, Jimmy's on South Street

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Response to egold2604 (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:34 PM

24. Yeah, but then I have to deal with the riff-raff from Joisy hanging out on South Street. nt

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:51 PM

12. What You Can and Can't Do During the Government Shutdown

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/What-You-Can-and-Cant-Do-During-a-Government-Shutdown-225824691.html
Tuesday, Oct 1, 2013 | Updated 11:32 AM EDT
... All national parks -- from Yosemite to Shenandoah National Park -- will close, and day visitors will have to leave immediately ...

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:58 PM

15. It would be irresponsible to go in...

...even if the trailheads are accessible. The limited staff on site are ultimately responsible for your safety and if anything goes wrong while you're hiking, it would be an extra burden to provide you with assistance.

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:08 PM

18. Yosemite will remain partially accessible.

Highway 120/Tioga Road through the park is a California state highway, and the NPS can't block it simply because the park is closed. There's actually a gate on the roadway at the Tioga Road junction specifically for this purpose, so they can permit traffic up the highway while blocking the rest of the park.

The Tioga Road provides access to Olmstead Point, which provides spectacular views of Half Dome, Tioga Lake, which is one of the most beautiful alpine lakes in the Sierra's, and Tuolumne Meadows, which is the second most popular destination in Yosemite anyway. Of course, all of the park facilities along the road will be closed, but they CAN NOT stop you from parking your car on the shoulder, hopping out, or taking in the view while stretching your legs.

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:10 PM

19. Anyone near Rocky Mountain National Park?

I know of at least one trailhead that's actually outside of park boundaries and you don't pay an entrance fee when you go in that way. It's very tiny in the town of Allenspark. Maybe room for 8 cars at the TH. Seems to me that if someone wanted to visit the park during this saga that would be one way to get in as it is not manned in any way. I was just there in August.

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:19 PM

20. Thanks everyone...I guess that answers my question!

FYI, some of the longer trails in Bryce begin outside the park entrance...I wonder if people would be found getting in that way...and I wonder how well staffed the place is to be able to patrol that.

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #20)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:25 PM

21. You can go in, but if you fall and break your ankle, it'll be a long, lonely crawl.

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #21)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:29 PM

22. The hike I want to do starts way at the other end...you go in and take the

drive all the way to the end, so I'm out of luck.

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #21)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:38 PM

25. Nonsense. I'm sure there would be a wolf or bear to stave off the loneliness....nt

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:57 PM

26. Parks Closed

Parks Closed, Moose out front should have told you. Sorry couldn't help myself. Most of the National Parks have some sort of entrance and they all have gates so the Park Service just locked them up. In the case of the Washington Monuments the Park Service puts up barriers and stations a Park Police officer nearby to keep people out.

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Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 02:29 PM

28. Avert you eyes, no unauthorized wildlife viewing allowed !

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