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Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:11 AM

Need help - who wrote the Affordable Health Care Act?

I only found one link that named names at that link led to Freeperville, hence, I did not check it out. Whatever I am doing research wise I am not searching correctly. What you see in the title is what I am using as my search question. I have used Yahoo not Google.

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Reply Need help - who wrote the Affordable Health Care Act? (Original post)
ChazII Sep 2013 OP
dkf Sep 2013 #1
notadmblnd Sep 2013 #2
TheDebbieDee Sep 2013 #28
dgibby Sep 2013 #3
bunnies Sep 2013 #6
LiberalLoner Sep 2013 #26
LaydeeBug Sep 2013 #4
bunnies Sep 2013 #8
LaydeeBug Sep 2013 #12
ChazII Sep 2013 #18
LaydeeBug Sep 2013 #20
Sunlei Sep 2013 #5
ChazII Sep 2013 #19
PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #7
Cleita Sep 2013 #9
Bandit Sep 2013 #11
ChazII Sep 2013 #15
Rex Sep 2013 #22
ChazII Sep 2013 #25
Rex Sep 2013 #29
ChazII Sep 2013 #17
DURHAM D Sep 2013 #10
ChazII Sep 2013 #16
duffyduff Sep 2013 #13
jsr Sep 2013 #14
ChazII Sep 2013 #21
solarhydrocan Sep 2013 #23
ChazII Sep 2013 #24
truedelphi Sep 2013 #31
truedelphi Sep 2013 #27
B Calm Sep 2013 #30
ChazII Oct 2013 #32

Response to ChazII (Original post)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:14 AM

1. Isn't it a mish mash?

 

But the main guys were the ones behind Romneycare I believe.

Authors of Affordable Care law astounded by its trials

A day after the Supreme Court upheld President Obama’s health care law by one vote, Jonathan Gruber and John McDonough — perhaps the two nonpoliticians from Massachusetts most responsible for transforming the state’s health reforms into national legislation — expressed incredulity at how close the law came to being overturned.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/health-wellness/2012/06/30/architects-health-reform-dismayed-how-close-law-came-being-overturned/M2bdEdRl6zaC5EaiAmSflO/story.html

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Response to ChazII (Original post)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:17 AM

2. Republicans

It is modeled after the State of Massachussetts health plan that Mitt Romney implemented when he was governor of the state.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:42 PM

28. Don't you mean the republicants?

The republicants pooh-poohed all the best ideas presented for the ACA. They nixed the public option, single-payer and countless other ideas that would have made the ACA easier.....

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Response to ChazII (Original post)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:17 AM

3. Google Max Baucas and ACA.

His comittee was responsible for the hearings. In truth, it's a rework of the proposal put forth by the Heritage Foundation with heavy input from the health insurance industry.

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Response to dgibby (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:20 AM

6. This. And I seem to remember Baucas crediting Liz Fowler for much of it. nt

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Response to bunnies (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:38 PM

26. Max Baucus.

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Response to ChazII (Original post)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:18 AM

4. It was written by the Heritage Foundation in the 1990's and adapted by Mitt Romney

when he was governor in Mass. It's been tweaked each time, but the individual mandate part was absolutely the brain child of the Heritage Foundation (a right wing group)

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/letters/2012/07/02/aca-reflects-heritage-foundation-model/

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:26 AM

8. And Id bet Heritage based theirs on Nixons plan.

Just a hunch.

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Response to bunnies (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 02:49 PM

12. I'd bet with you. nt

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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:13 PM

18. LaydeeBug, thank you

As I read your link it brought back memories of past campaign years. Thank for this link and I have bookmarked it.

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Response to ChazII (Reply #18)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:16 PM

20. You are so much welcome! I know what it's like to be in the thick of it

and you just. need. that. link.

LOL.

Anytime.

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Response to ChazII (Original post)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:18 AM

5. not sure but imo a lot of the ideas came from work on healthcare the clintons &

other Americans concerned about healthcare for us all did. plus many other countries have good healthcare for all their citizens. Some probably came from that work.

Not sure because Romney got rid of ALL his state computer records but his 'romneycare' policy probably had parts taken from Clinton work too.

Or maybe insurance lobbyists did some of the work so they could be close to some of the profits.



Have you checked the White House website? If you go back to the first days of 'Obama care' I bet records are there. just search "Affordable Health Care Act" and you can see and read the act.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:15 PM

19. Suniel, I think I must be having

a bad brain day. I say that because of 2 concussions I had last year. I did not even think of visiting the White House website. I feel like such a . Thank you for your help.

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Response to ChazII (Original post)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:23 AM

7. Good luck finding the definitive answer to that...

You likely won't be hearing the real story about all the lobbyists involved.

BTW here's the first precursor to the PPACA that was introduced into Congress under Obama:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Affordable_Health_Choices_Act_of_2009

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Response to ChazII (Original post)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:27 AM

9. Bob Dole originally proposed the plan back in the last century. The Heritage Foundation

adopted it as a Republican plan for health care being it's all insurance company friendly. Don't remember the exact dates. Mitt Romney got it adopted in Massachusetts when he was governor. Hillarycare was also a version of it.

This begs the question as to the motives of the Republicans hating it now that our New Democratic President got it passed.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 12:44 PM

11. The main difference between what Hillary came up with and the Republican's counter

proposal was Hillary want Business to be the one's responsible for providing Health Care Insurance and Republicans wanted the onus to be on the individual..hence individual mandate. Now that is what they say they are so opposed to. It always amazes me how the Hypocrisy never gets presented to their faces and asked for explanations...

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Response to Bandit (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:08 PM

15. Exactly! and thank you n/t

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Response to Bandit (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:20 PM

22. The M$M works for the same paymasters; otherwise

in a real country with a strong independent media that question would have been asked from the beginning.

"Why don't Republicans support a healthcare law that was created by the Heritage Foundation and used in Mass. by Mittens...who last time I checked ran for POTUS as a republican?"

Yeah can't let the masses in on the rank lie, that would expose everything.

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Response to Rex (Reply #22)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:30 PM

25. Yes, the media should be asking

this question as you wrote it. Again, thank you, Rex.

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Response to ChazII (Reply #25)

Mon Sep 30, 2013, 12:21 AM

29. Thank you for making this thread.

We should always be asking why the M$M won't cover topics that are important to the people of the country! Just because some questions are impalpable, does not make them any less truthful.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:10 PM

17. Agree with your comments. And thank you. nt

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Response to ChazII (Original post)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:42 AM

10. It was written by the Heritage Foundation

at the request of Senator Dole in response to Hillary & Bill Clinton's plan.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:09 PM

16. Thank you.

Another link I visited also stated that information. I appreciate your help.

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Response to ChazII (Original post)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 02:50 PM

13. Health insurance industry lobbyists. n/t

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Response to ChazII (Original post)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 03:20 PM

14. Here's a clue:

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/318577-architects-of-obamacare-reap-windfall-as-washington-lobbyists

ObamaCare's architects reap windfall as Washington lobbyists
By Megan R. Wilson - 08/25/13 12:06 PM ET

ObamaCare has become big business for an elite network of Washington lobbyists and consultants who helped shape the law from the inside.

More than 30 former administration officials, lawmakers and congressional staffers who worked on the healthcare law have set up shop on K Street since 2010.

Major lobbying firms such as Fierce, Isakowitz & Blalock, The Glover Park Group, Alston & Bird, BGR Group and Akin Gump can all boast an Affordable Care Act insider on their lobbying roster — putting them in a prime position to land coveted clients.

“When Biden leaned over and said to Obama, ‘This is a big f'n deal,’ ” said Ivan Adler, a headhunter at the McCormick Group, “he was right.”

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Response to ChazII (Original post)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:17 PM

21. Thank you to everyone who answered

I have bookmarked your information in a folder I have for the ACA.

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Response to ChazII (Original post)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:24 PM

23. Here's what Wiki says

The health insurance mandate in the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is an idea hatched in 1989 by Stuart M. Butler at Heritage in a publication titled "Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans". This was also the model for Mitt Romney's health care plan in Massachusetts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritage_foundation#Policy_influence


How the Heritage Foundation, a Conservative Think Tank, Promoted the Individual Mandate
Avik Roy 10/20/2011

Heritage did put forward the idea of an individual mandate, though it predated HillaryCare by several years. We know this because we were there: In 1988-90, we were employed at Heritage as a public relations associate (a junior writer and editor), and we wrote at least one press release for a publication touting Heritage’s plan for comprehensive legislation to provide universal “quality, affordable health care.”


http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/10/20/how-a-conservative-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/

The paper that started it all

Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans
October 1, 1989
http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/assuring-affordable-health-care-for-all-americans

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Response to solarhydrocan (Reply #23)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:29 PM

24. Wow is about all I can say but

not wow in a good way. Thank you. All of this information is making my head spin.

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Response to ChazII (Reply #24)

Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:34 PM

31. A friend of mine keeps saying:

How does Congress and Obama preside over a real economic recovery when consumer purchasing power is redirected to insurance company profits?

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Response to ChazII (Original post)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:39 PM

27. Countless meetings between Rahm Emanuel and various Execs of Big Health Insurers

Then in the end, he and Liz Fowler (who had been "in the industry" prior to summer of 2009), those two finished up the legalese and passed it off to someone over at the House of representatives.

Rahm Emanuel will never have to worry about campaign contribution as long as he lives.

Liz Fowler was given a top spot at one of the Biggest Insurers in order to properly thank her for her efforts.

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Response to ChazII (Original post)

Mon Sep 30, 2013, 12:24 AM

30. Basically the Republicans did, then they voted against it.

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Response to ChazII (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 05:20 PM

32. Once again thanks

other friends in my real world have asked this same question and I send them here to DU. Hopefully some of them have become new DUers.

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