Rush Limbaugh says Fluke's birth control cost $3000 a year. Is that true?

[ErikJ]

I googled it and cant find the answer. Hartmann was pre-empted this morn so I was forced to listen to to Rush and some other Republicon this morning and theyre making hay with this one.

[mercuryblues]

1. It is

a thousand dollars a year times 3 years. At least that is what I heard say.

[procon]

34. It's more than just the cost of the prescription.

Remember, that we can't get that Rx without a first getting routine annual physical exam that would also include a gynecological exam with a PAP smear and usually a mammogram and a rectal exam. In addition, there are routine labs tests that go along with the physical, and the physician can also order other tests depending on his judgment and your age and medical history.

Maintaining our ladyparts isn't cheap, and the costs for that doctor's visit can easily amount $400 and up -- on top on the monthly price for the prescription birth control -- which women would have to pay up front unless they had insurance coverage or access to a Planned Parenthood clinic or a similar Medicaid or public health facility.

[HopeHoops]

2. The pill isn't cheap!

Besides, many couple use both pills and rubbers for double-protection. The latter wouldn't be covered, but the former should be.

[Honeycombe8]

18. I've been told b.c. pills run about $30 month. I don't know. Cost will go up with ins.

Cost of healthcare has gone up, once insurance gets involved, has been my experience.

Ins. companies will contract with pharma and/or health care providers to pay a certain amount. So the care providers/pharma raise the price of the service/substance so that they end up getting paid what they got paid before insurance was involved.

[madokie]

21. You got it, before the first health care law in like '94 a doctors visit was 20 bucks

then the insurance companies and the health care industry started charging us a, you guessed it, 20 dollar co-pay. I watched it happen in a matter of weeks maybe a month or two. I'm lucky I had good health for 54 of my years and have the VA now but that only goes so far. America badly needs health care. Our present system is nothing more than a shake down.

[HopeHoops]

26. Yeah, $30/mo is about right.

[Honeycombe8]

33. That will cost my employer's ins co. about $90,000 a year in increased ins claims, I think.

My employer has maybe 700 women employed, most of whom are in child bearing years. So if half of them take b.c. @ $30 month, which is $360 a year, times maybe 250 women = $90,000.

So our ins. premiums will go up quite a bit. Oh, dear. It's already so expensive.

[HopeHoops]

41. No. That's the point. They have to lump the cost into everyone's premiums.

Hell, they cover Viagra (also not cheap) and getting a vasectomy. We help to pay for heart attack victims, even if their lifestyle was responsible. Insurance is a shared risk pool. And to make it very clear, a pregnancy is a SHITLOAD more expensive than a couple of years of birth control.

[mercuryblues]

58. How

many of those women will have an unplanned pregnancy?

By contrast, if an insurer makes birth control totally free for all of its customers, it avoids having to reimburse them for countless unplanned pregnancies and births. Overall, then, it’s cheaper for the insurer to pay a little upfront to save a ton down the line.



Read more: http://moneyland.time.com/2012/02/14/why-free-birth-control-will-not-hike-the-cost-of-your-insurance/#ixzz1nzvw4xvO

http://moneyland.time.com/2012/02/14/why-free-birth-control-will-not-hike-the-cost-of-your-insurance/

[DesMoinesDem]

59. My wife pays $9 a month without insurance. It's cheap.

[HopeHoops]

65. Okay, that's cheaper than condoms. We haven't needed either since I got the big V 17 years ago.

[Chorophyll]

3. Because birth control pills are produced by pharmaceutical companies?

And we know that Big Pharma always has our best interests at heart.

[Sparkly]

4. She said some women pay that much in the course of law school

NOT her, NOT per year...

Law school can be 3 years full time or up to 7 years part time or considering the 4 year bachelor's degree as well.

There are pelvic exams required yearly, and perhaps other follow-up visits, in addition to the pills themselves.

And if you're on the pill, it has nothing to do with "how much" sex you're having. But I guess Rush doesn't know about such things.

[elleng]

8. THANKS for the clarification, Sparkly. Makes sense.

Didn't hear what she said about this.
Further, her testimony intended to discuss her friend, w cysts and thus the need for the meds, right? This little factoid seems vastly overlooked by the 'noise' around this, it is NOT about sex!

[joeybee12]

16. I know...the noise machine makes sure FACTS

are blocked...phuckers.

[ZombieHorde]

5. The $3000/year line is a lie by Rush.

Fluke said it costs $3000 over the course of law school, so that is several years.

[librechik]

29. She said the 3000 was a high end estimate for all of law school, which could take 3-4 years

Just having to write this is making me so angry at Rush I could scream. What a liar, what a monster, HE MUST GO!!!

[TBF]

6. Wow! Maybe she doesn't have health insurance?

We have a major carrier and mine is about $14 per month for the name brand - I've gotten the generic for as low as $10 (that's Target - Walmart could be even less).

[elleng]

11. Maybe.

w good insurance, mine was around what yours is.

[ohheckyeah]

7. Why would you believe anything Rush

has to say? She didn't say it cost $3000 a year.

[ErikJ]

12. That's what they're implying.

To make her look like a "slut".

[ohheckyeah]

27. I see you changed the post title.

Good. Rush lies, that's what he gets paid to do.

[Strelnikov_]

39. And we are supposed to get the drizzles over what some sociopathic liar is saying to his

racist/homophobic/misogynistic audience of middle aged and older white males?

[ErikJ]

9. This is what RWinger "Maggie's Notebook" blog says about it.

Rush Limbaugh’s excellence in research, found that using CVC Pharmacy’s online condom ordering, including shipping, will cost Georgetown women $953 for 3-years at Georgetown. I checked it out myself, and found that condoms cost an average of $1.15 each with free shipping: $1.15 X 31 days totals $35.65 per month for sex once a day, every day of the month. That’s less than $1300 dollars for 3 years of law school. Or birth control pills, at the most: $1800 for three years of fun, as much fun as you want. Sandra can have protected sex twice a day with about $500 left over to enjoy…in some way. No Sandra, if you stick to once a day, you’ll have more than half your summer salary sitting in the bank. Good grief! What have we become?

http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2012/03/sandra-fluke-georgetown-law-women-need-3000-for-birth-control-see-the-real-cost-video-control/

[ieoeja]

13. Fortunately, several intelligent people posted above how it costs $3000 over 3 years.

Maybe you should stop quoting Rightists and start paying attention?

[tanyev]

14. The thing is, condoms aren't very effective for ovarian cysts or endometriosis.

Funny that.

[Rex]

23. That is a lot of bullshit, why do you read those lies?

Rush made that up about her spending 3k a year...do you deny this?

[ohheckyeah]

31. What do condoms have to do with this discussion?

Are you unaware of the fact that condoms are not as reliable as the pill? Are you unaware that most rapists don't use condoms or wait for a woman to dig one up for them to use? Are you unaware of the fact that birth control pills are used for other medical issues like endometriosis?

You sure seem to put a lot of stock in what Rush and RWinger Maggie have to say.

[Rex]

38. That is what to look out for

the trolls are saying condoms are cheap...so what is the deal? Funny...nobody mentioned condoms, just the trolls and their leader Rush.

Easy to spot...been going on all day.

[ohheckyeah]

42. It's hard to keep up with the

spin. I'm getting dizzy - how about you?

[Rex]

47. Yeah they make Whirling Dervishes look

slow and clumsy by comparison. I am going to need some anti-vertigo pills or risk throwing up all over my new rug.

[ohheckyeah]

48. Fortunately,

anti-vertigo pills will be covered by insurance.

[Rex]

51. Oh very nice!!!

[RebelOne]

10. I was on birth control pills in the '70s

and that time I paid a maximum of $10 a month. I don't know what they are now as I no longer need them.

[stuntcat]

22. $10 a month was what mine cost when our insurance covered them and when I could get generics

bargain!

It went to over $100 a month when we had to change to a company whose insurance wouldn't cover them and I couldn't get a generic brand pill at my pharmacy.

When I was in collage they used to give them to us for free. I bet they can't do that anymore. "Freedom", and all...

[DCKit]

15. Flukes propagate by division.

When you're that fertile, you'll pay whatever it costs, even if it means selling your soul to the Republican party - that wants to take away your access to birth control.

Yeah, it really doesn't make any sense. Dude's in the wrong party.

[Sparkly]

19. Umm..... What?

[stuntcat]

17. luckily a friend told me how to order my pills from England, because

when I was on the pill (before I got permanent BC, a 'secret' from my baby-hungry internet-stalky in-laws, so up yours Monster whenever you search this out k?) our insurance wouldn't cover it and my pharmacy didn't have a generic, so the medicine I was prescribed cost over $100 a month.

That is just messed up- taking a medicine every day, and paying $1,200 a year for it, when I would kill myself before giving my baby the rest of this century. I was lucky to know someone who told me who to contact in England to order it.

[Enrique]

20. please correct your OP

THANKS!

[ErikJ]

28. Search results

most people will be searching for $3000 a year.

[Enrique]

30. search this instead

Google "sandra fluke transcript"

[tledford]

50. Or "Rush Limbaugh is a lying sack of shit." eom

[ohheckyeah]

32. Why would most people search for that?

I wouldn't, but then again I don't take what Rush has to say as gospel.

[ErikJ]

36. EVerybody has heard by now that the search keywords are :

Rush, birth control $3000 year Fluke. Most are under the impression its $3000 per year.

[ohheckyeah]

40. Most are?

Really? I don't know anyone who listens to Rush and thinks the keywords are what you are suggesting. Some people actually know how to do an internet search.

[ErikJ]

45. I got them all covered

Thanks

[ohheckyeah]

49. It would be easier to respond

if your post actually made sense.

[Ikonoklast]

24. You "were forced to listen to Rush"???

Hahahahaaaaaaa!

You must think everyone here is an idiot.

[ErikJ]

35. Hartmann pre-empted!

I usually listen listen to Hartmann on my morning dog walk but he was pre-empted by a fucking COLLEGE BASEBALL GAME!!!!!!!!
So it dialed it to Rush to keep up with the bile he sspewing now and he was hitting her hard this morning about what a floozy she must be for spending $3000 on birth control. Like I said. He's making hay with it.

[ohheckyeah]

37. So only have two choices of what you can listen to?

Hartmann or Rush? Really? Yes, we all know he's making hay, what's your point?

[ErikJ]

44. Are you living in a cave?

Everybody knows that 95% of airtime on the talk radio in the US is extreme rightwing hate radio.

I am VERY lucky to live in a city with even a SINGLE Progressive station!.
Hartmann is my radio god but I'm afraid the corporate big boyz are phasing him and our radio station out!

Its scary.

[ohheckyeah]

46. If NEVER listening

to the racist, sexist piece of crap known as Rush Limbaugh means I live in a cave, then yes, yes, I do.

Try listening to some music instead of listening to and taking what Rush says as factual. You could have saved yourself a lot of trouble.

[ErikJ]

52. "Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer"

I wish I had the time and stomach to listen to all the RW shows all day like Media Matters does. I want to keep tabs on their propaganda lies. Dont worry. I dont believe a THING they say! I may start calling my local RW show soon to give them hell.

[ohheckyeah]

56. Well, your original post title

sounded very much like you believe what they say.

[madokie]

25. Have you watched the video thats posted here yet,

of her testimony? If not you need too.

[Autumn]

43. What does Limpballs spend on Viagra in a year

would be a better question to ask. Women take BC pills for many reasons, some of them having nothing to do with contraception. By the way, fuck that asshole.

[ErikJ]

53. He's been married 4 times and not a single kid

He's probably shooting blanks

[Sparkly]

54. Or he thinks sex is icky.

[Autumn]

55. I doubt he's shooting blanks

his wives have probably never touched him. My opinion.

[Cali_Democrat]

60. To think there's someone on the receiving end of Limbaugh's viagra-fueled escapades disturbing

[kestrel91316]

57. I've heard here in CA they go for $60/mo (we always pay more for everything here), so that's

$720/yr. Unaffordable for women on a fixed or limited income.

[Avalux]

66. Add in the cost of a yearly exam and pap smear too.

Docs won't prescribe without them.

[spanone]

61. who cares? it none of his fucking business

[hobbit709]

62. If Limpballs said it was raining, I'd open the door and look outside.

[GoCubsGo]

63. Susan Fluke's birth control was not the issue.

She was speaking on behalf of a friend who needed it for ovarian cysts. She never once said anything about using it herself. Not one damn thing. So, Rush was lying his ass off, as usual.

[Ship of Fools]

64. 30 years ago it cost me $40 a month.

[CBHagman]

67. Here's a link to testimony.

Given short attention spans and the cycle of actions and reactions, I counsel everyone to get the context as well as the content wherever possible.

In fact that's a good angle to use when either A) approaching advertisers for Limbaugh's show and B) arguing with family, friends, and neighbors about this case.

http://www.whatthefolly.com/2012/02/23/transcript-sandra-fluke-testifies-on-why-women-should-be-allowed-access-to-contraception-and-reproductive-health-care/

Sample quote:

“Without insurance coverage, contraception, as you know, can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school. For a lot of students who, like me, are on public interest scholarships, that’s practically an entire summer’s salary. 40% of the female students at Georgetown Law reported to us that they struggle financially as a result of this policy.

“One told us about how embarrassed and just powerless she felt when she was standing at the pharmacy counter and learned for the first time that contraception was not covered on her insurance and she had to turn and walk away because she couldn’t afford that prescription. Women like her have no choice but to go without contraception.

“Just last week, a married female student told me that she had to stop using contraception because she and her husband just couldn’t fit it into their budget anymore. Women employed in low-wage jobs without contraceptive coverage face the same choice."