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Thu Mar 1, 2012, 11:27 PM

Stratfor Email: "I'm in favor of using whatever trumped up charge is available to get Assange"

http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/389793_.html

On Monday February 27th, 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing The Global Intelligence Files, over five million e-mails from the Texas headquartered "global intelligence" company Stratfor. The e-mails date between July 2004 and late December 2011. They reveal the inner workings of a company that fronts as an intelligence publisher, but provides confidential intelligence services to large corporations, such as Bhopal's Dow Chemical Co., Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and government agencies, including the US Department of Homeland Security, the US Marines and the US Defence Intelligence Agency. The emails show Stratfor's web of informers, pay-off structure, payment laundering techniques and psychological methods.

Email-ID 389793
Date 2010-12-10 03:34:36
From mongoven@stratfor.com
To morson@stratfor.com, defeo@stratfor.com, pubpolblog.post@blogger.com
A hero?
Avaaz is right. It's not illegal but it does make you accessory to being
an asshole. Real people are being tortured by governments that Avaaz and
Assange probably like more than the US, all the while the two of them
denounce US 'torture' at Guantanamo.
They are like the crazy IPS/CISPES/SDS people who were so full of hate
that they could not see that they are doing so much more bad than they at
doing good.
I'm in favor of using whatever trumped up charge is available to get this
guy and his servers off the streets. And I'd feed that shit head soldier
to the first pack of wild dogs I could find.
Or perhaps just do to him whatever the Iranians are doing to our sources
there.

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Reply Stratfor Email: "I'm in favor of using whatever trumped up charge is available to get Assange" (Original post)
Hissyspit Mar 2012 OP
EFerrari Mar 2012 #1
Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #6
EFerrari Mar 2012 #8
Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #9
EFerrari Mar 2012 #11
Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #12
EFerrari Mar 2012 #13
Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #14
EFerrari Mar 2012 #10
Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #2
The Doctor. Mar 2012 #3
JFN1 Mar 2012 #4
riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #5
JDPriestly Mar 2012 #7
proverbialwisdom Mar 2012 #15
Odin2005 Mar 2012 #16

Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 11:33 PM

1. CISPES is the Committee in Solidarity with the People of El Salvador.

I have to run these @ssholes background down because that sounds like Iran/Contra raving to me.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 01:26 AM

6. Please do!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:08 AM

8. Jack Mongoven was an advisor to Reagan and he worked on thwarting the South Africa

protests. Look at this:

History

In the 1980s, Shell and other corporations that continued to do business in South Africa came under fire from protesters who pressured them to pull out of the country as part of a campaign against the country's racist apartheid system. Shell turned to Pagan International, owned by Rafael Pagan and Jack Mongoven, who had previously advised the Nestlé corporation on strategies for neutralizing protests against Nestlé's infant-formula marketing practices in Third World countries.

Pagan International developed a plan, code-named the "Neptune Strategy," which became an embarrassment to Shell when a copy was leaked to the press in 1987. Instead of divesting its South African holdings, the Neptune Strategy advised Shell to "develop a task force" of South Africans, church leaders, US activists and executives to issue a statement about the company's role in helping South Africa prepare for life after apartheid and to develop "post-apartheid plans" that "will ensure the continuation and growth of the Shell companies in the United States and South Africa."

To implement this plan, Pagan International organized and subsidized COSA. Launched with great fanfare in September 1987, COSA was ostensibly an organization of black clergy, which talked of ambitious plans to develop black-black business links between South Africa and the United States, promote education and training of South African blacks, and pressure for an end to apartheid. In reality, COSA was a paper front group with no resources to carry out these goals. According to Donna Katzin, a leader in the Shell boycott, COSA reflected a deliberate attempt to "divide and weaken the position of the religious community with regard to South Africa." She noted that immediately after COSA was created, companies with South African operations began to point to COSA to show that not all US church groups backed disinvestment.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Coalition_for_Southern_Africa

Duchin worked as an assistant to the SecDef. He seems like more of a tech guy, when they tried to kill tabacco regulation, etc.

My god, these people are the scum of the earth.

Managing Activism: PR Advice for "Neutralizing" Democracy
(book review)

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Deegan's book tries to put the best face on the practice of "managing activism," which may explain why she avoids mentioning the Washington-based PR firm of Mongoven, Biscoe and Duchin (MBD), one of the worldwide leaders in this particular PR subspecialty. As we have documented previously, MBD grew out of the successful effort by one of its founders, Jack Mongoven, to defeat the large religious-lead boycott campaign aimed at the Nestl corporation for its deadly promotion of infant formula in the third world. In activist lore this boycott is touted as a major victory, but in the corporate world it is understood that industry really won the day by pulling the rug out from the campaign. By making selective concessions to the activists, Nestl succeeded in negotiating an end to the boycott. Later, activists were dismayed to discover that its infant formula marketing practices are continuing with only token changes. Third world children continue to die, but today their plight receives little attention, and activists have found that a boycott, once terminated, is not easily turned back on.

MBD is a sort of spy operation. Its dozens of employees relentlessly compile dossiers on activists of all sizes and shapes the world over, advising industry how to defeat them. Their favorite method is a "divide and conquer" strategy heavily dependent on co-optation: First identify the "radicals" who are unwilling to compromise and who are demanding fundamental changes to redress the problem at hand. Then, identify the "realists"--typically, organizations with significant budgets and staffs working in the same relative area of public concern as the radicals. Then, approach these realists, often through a friendly third party, start a dialogue and eventually cut a deal, a "win win" solution that marginalizes and excludes the radicals and their demands. Next, go with the realists to the "idealists" who have learned about the problem through the work of the radicals. Convince the idealists that a "win-win" solution endorsed by the realists is best for the community as a whole. Once this has been accomplished, the "radicals" can be shut out as extremists, the PR fix is in, and the deal can be touted in the media to make the corporation and its "moderate" nonprofit partners look heroic for solving the problem. Result: industry may have to make some small or temporary concessions, but the fundamental concerns raised by the "radicals" are swept aside.

This, in a nutshell, is the strategy that Deegan recommends in what she calls "one of the first books to offer a 'how to . . .' format to help people cope with the threat of activism." I especially recommend her chapters on "relationship building, negotiation and conflict resolution" and "media relations." Reading these chapters should help drive home the realization that activist efforts are being deliberately targeted for defeat by corporate funding, partnership and co-optation. These may seem like unusual weapons, but PR crisis managers have taken to heart the advice of military strategist Carl Von Clausewitz: "We see then that there are many ways to one's object in War; that the complete subjugation of the enemy is not essential in every case."

http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues/2002Q2/managing.html

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:12 AM

9. Thank you. Bookmarking this OP to keep track of your post.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:41 AM

11. Have to stop for tonight.

But we have Shell, Houston, South Africa, Reagan and the DoD, the 80s. Central America is here somewhere.

ETA: FBI harrassed CISPES in the early 80s. So, they could be in the mix, too.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #11)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:46 AM

12. I did volunteer bookkeeping for CISPES in the late 80s early 90s...

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:52 AM

13. So you know the size and profile of CISPES

and how weird it is for this guy to bring it up. It's not well known like the SDS was except to people like you and me.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 03:06 AM

14. Yep. But illumitating. Even the smallest "threat". Like the Quakers in PA.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 02:40 AM

10. Apartheid focus of plan made for Shell/`Neptune Strategy' seeks to shift public emphasis away from S

Pagan International had offices in Houston and DC. Rafael Pagan was Jack Mongoven's partner.

THU 10/01/1987 HOUSTON CHRONICLE, Section Business, Page 1, 2 STAR Edition

WASHINGTON - Shell Oil Co. has devised a campaign, code-named The Neptune Strategy, to neutralize a consumer boycott and criticism by religious and civil rights groups against its operations in South Africa.

The 265-page plan focuses much of its attention on the mainstream U.S. religious community in an effort to "deflect their attention away from boycott and disinvestment efforts" and shift public debate from the volatile issue of apartheid, South Africa's system of racial segregation.

Among suggestions in the plan is the creation of an action group with offices in Houston and Washington, D.C.

According to the plan, Shell, which through its parent, Royal Dutch Shell Group, has announced its intention to stay in South Africa, should seek to promote discussions of "post-apartheid reality" rather than the current policies of South Africa that have led many American companies to withdraw. The campaign, devised by the Washington-based consulting firm Pagan International, is directed at church and civil rights groups, unions and academics in an effort to undermine support for critics of Shell's presence in South Africa.

A copy of the plan was obtained by the New York-based Interfaith Center on Corporate Responsibility, a Shell critic, and made available to reporters.

http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/1987_492761/apartheid-focus-of-plan-made-for-shell-neptune-str.html

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 11:41 PM

2. Bart Mongoven must've soiled his pants when he read his e-mails published publicly

by Assange, and about Assange.

If he's going to be in this business, and plot such shit against people, Mongoven needs to get ready by wearing Depends under his suits.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 11:53 PM

3. This is revealing,

 

in the sense that it shows us that people believe Assange is merely a competing 'intelligence operative', rather than someone who is opposed to bullshit.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:53 AM

4. Catch the Bradley Manning reference?

"And I'd feed that shit head soldier to the first pack of wild dogs I could find."

Words fail me...

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Response to JFN1 (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 01:21 AM

5. +10000. nt

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 01:30 AM

7. No concern about law or justice, just

whatever trumped up charge is available.

Disgusting mentality. That attitude about justice is not what the American Revolution was fought for.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 12:54 PM

15. Any reporting about this in the MSM?

More here:

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=8001&updaterx=2012-02-29+08%3A26%3A13

February 29, 2012
United States vs. Manning & Assange


Michael Ratner: Army is trying to pressure Manning into implicating Julian Assange so that he too can be charged and extradited to US

VIDEO AND TRANSCRIPT


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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 01:01 PM

16. I should have known Stratfor owner George Friedman is a wingnut

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