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Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:47 PM

 

Church Members Mistreat Homeless Man in Church Unaware It Is Their Pastor in Disguise



Pastor Jeremiah Steepek transformed himself into a homeless person and went to the 10,000 member church that he was to be introduced as the head pastor at that morning.

He walked around his soon to be church for 30 minutes while it was filling with people for service, only 3 people out of the 7-10,000 people said hello to him.

He asked people for change to buy food – no one in the church gave him change.

He went into the sanctuary to sit down in the front of the church and was asked by the ushers if he would please sit in the back.

He greeted people to be greeted back with stares and dirty looks, with people looking down on him and judging him.

As he sat in the back of the church, he listened to the church announcements and such.

When all that was done, the elders went up and were excited to introduce the new pastor of the church to the congregation.

“We would like to introduce to you Pastor Jeremiah Steepek.” The congregation looked around clapping with joy and anticipation.

The homeless man sitting in the back stood up and started walking down the aisle. The clapping stopped with all eyes on him.

http://ireporterstv.co/church-members-mistreat-homeless-man-in-church-unaware-it-is-their-pastor-in-disguise/

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Reply Church Members Mistreat Homeless Man in Church Unaware It Is Their Pastor in Disguise (Original post)
HarveyDarkey Sep 2013 OP
kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #1
Tx4obama Sep 2013 #2
HarveyDarkey Sep 2013 #7
Tx4obama Sep 2013 #11
snort Sep 2013 #28
L0oniX Sep 2013 #43
davekriss Sep 2013 #3
The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2013 #4
KentuckyWoman Sep 2013 #9
BlueStreak Sep 2013 #31
L0oniX Sep 2013 #45
BlueStreak Sep 2013 #55
winter is coming Sep 2013 #5
Voice for Peace Sep 2013 #17
Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #35
Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2013 #41
Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #6
Skittles Sep 2013 #8
Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2013 #42
Skittles Sep 2013 #10
nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #13
Skittles Sep 2013 #19
Union Scribe Sep 2013 #39
L0oniX Sep 2013 #46
Skittles Sep 2013 #54
Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #36
Hekate Sep 2013 #12
Voice for Peace Sep 2013 #18
Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #38
Voice for Peace Sep 2013 #50
hfojvt Sep 2013 #52
Voice for Peace Sep 2013 #53
Chuuku Davis Sep 2013 #14
Rhiannon12866 Sep 2013 #15
MelungeonWoman Sep 2013 #32
Rhiannon12866 Sep 2013 #34
SidDithers Sep 2013 #16
grillo7 Sep 2013 #26
Half-Century Man Sep 2013 #30
Fix The Stupid Sep 2013 #48
Lars39 Sep 2013 #20
Shampoobra Sep 2013 #21
Supersedeas Sep 2013 #49
xfundy Sep 2013 #22
joshcryer Sep 2013 #23
xfundy Sep 2013 #24
Liberal_in_LA Sep 2013 #25
dcmfox Sep 2013 #27
Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #29
Precisely Sep 2013 #44
99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #33
Union Scribe Sep 2013 #40
dem in texas Sep 2013 #37
IronLionZion Sep 2013 #47
Voice for Peace Sep 2013 #51

Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:51 PM

1. Typical fundie megachurch Christians.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:52 PM

2. NOT TRUE - Story has been debunked and that photo is of a 'real' unidentified homeless man.


I don't have a link but this has been discussed on DU previously.

I think it is Snopes.com that has the debunk article.



Edited to add... See DU OP here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023341650

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:56 PM

7. Snopes says Undetermined

 

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:00 PM

11. But Snopes says the photo is an unidentified homeless man, and


... there is no evidence that a Pastor Steepak exists.

So, basically - it is NOT true

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #11)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:01 AM

28. The unidentified homeless man

has a fantastic beard.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 10:51 AM

43. It doesn't matter if it is true. Many homeless and poor people know this is what typically happens.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:53 PM

3. Supper cool! I love this pastor!!!

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:54 PM

4. Snopes says this story couldn't be substantiated.

http://www.snopes.com/glurge/homelesspastor.asp

They couldn't find any record of the existence of "Pastor Jeremiah Steepek" and opine that this story is based on an older urban legend. It's a nice story, though.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:58 PM

9. it is a nice story

I believed it.....and that's the thing. It's believable.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:14 AM

31. I guarantee you the story is bogus

If a mega-church pastor pulled that stunt, he would be gone in a week. Most people attend church in order to JUSTIFY the way they want to be, not to be told they have to change anything. And in the case of mega-churches, you can pretty safely generalize that to 100% of the people in attendance.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #31)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 10:58 AM

45. You could be wrong. I personally know one who went anti military and 1/2 (5000) left that church.

Those who are guilty usually are the ones who leave. No one was telling them to "change anything". A mirror was held up in front of them.

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #45)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 06:05 PM

55. I have also seen cases like that.

I don't think it is uncommon for a congregation to fracture, resulting in tribes splitting off on their own.

I'm just saying that if a new guy came in and threatened the "rationalization engine" as this story suggested, I don't think there is much chance the new guy survives. It is different when somebody has been the pastor for awhile and gets cross-ways with part of the congregation.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:55 PM

5. Snopes categorizes this as "undetermined".

I'm skeptical, because the elders are unlikely to announce the pastor to the congregation if they're not sure he's there.

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Response to winter is coming (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:21 PM

17. the article said they were "in on it"

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Response to winter is coming (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 02:19 AM

35. IF it were true, then those announcing would be the few who knew.

I could see it happening at a Methodist Church because they are prone to think outside the box to get people to open their hearts to doing the right thing.

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Response to Tigress DEM (Reply #35)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 04:14 AM

41. I thought it would be Methodists because they move their ministers around every couple of years.

They never stay at one congregation very long, at least if it's a small one.


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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:58 PM

8. so he is just now figuring out lots of Christians are hypocrites?

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Response to Skittles (Reply #8)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 04:16 AM

42. A lot of houses of worship never greet visitors or acknowledge their existence.

Feeling excluded even when you're a regular attendee will drive people away.


I know this from personal experience in several houses of worship.


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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:59 PM

10. I always talk to homeless folk

and I do not go to church

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Response to Skittles (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:08 PM

13. From time to time I get them a meal too

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:27 PM

19. I like to give them phone cards too

in the hopes they will contact family

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Response to Skittles (Reply #19)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 02:26 AM

39. That is a great idea! nt

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Response to Skittles (Reply #19)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 11:04 AM

46. Bus pass cards are welcome too.

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #46)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 02:39 PM

54. ooh

that IS good

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Response to Skittles (Reply #10)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 02:23 AM

36. Some I do and some I don't

I've given food at times and change here and there, but I'm supporting an extended family right now and although I have a decent job, I've got no savings as I spent down when unemployed for over a year.

There are people in the down town area begging all the time. Some days it's just too much.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:05 PM

12. The story reads like a spam morality play. Two in this thread have already confirmed my hunch

Sorry guys, but there is truly a "style" to the spam that goes around. So frequently it is a morality play -- sure it tugs on your heartstrings, put it is just too neatly put together.

It's an essay about something the author thinks is important, and that in their minds ought to be true. So s/he sends it out, usually with the admonition: "Send this to everyone you know!!!!"

In this case it was a sermon -- but it's going to make the rounds. I expect it in my in-box any day.

>sigh< Right now Pope Francis is actually walking the walk. That man is the real deal.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #12)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:26 PM

18. Maybe even as a story it will inspire other pastors to do the same.

The Norwegian PM went out disguised as a taxi driver
in order to hear from everyday people.

http://www.timesheraldonline.com/news/ci_23842819/this-world-leader-posed-taxi-driver-hear-from

Also, more DC politicians should spend time learning stuff on DU.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #18)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 02:25 AM

38. The Pastor could go on that reality show "Undercover Boss"!!

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Response to Tigress DEM (Reply #38)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:17 PM

50. haha I haven't seen the show but get the idea

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #18)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:36 PM

52. to some extent

that story is the first chapter of the book "In His Steps" - written in 1896, and one of the bestselling books of all time, sort of by accident.

To another extent a somewhat similar story is told in James 2: 2- 9

But it does not hurt to hear the story over and over again with variations.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #52)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 02:14 PM

53. agree .. it is a good reminder to everyone.

including me.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:09 PM

14. Not true

But neat story

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:09 PM

15. This is really a parable. Wasn't Jesus reputed to have done much the same thing?

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #15)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:25 AM

32. I think that was Brubaker. n/t

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Response to MelungeonWoman (Reply #32)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:42 AM

34. LOL. I think Jesus came up with the idea.

Brubaker was a remake.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:18 PM

16. I call bullshit on the story. However, here's the parable of the good Samaritan...

as told by Mitchell and Webb.



Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #16)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:39 AM

26. Yes!

I love Mitchell & Webb and somehow missed this...

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #16)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:09 AM

30. This is hysterical

And technically well done

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #16)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 11:56 AM

48. Thats hilarious!


" I didn't realize this was such a PC environment here"...

Lol...

Now I have to search for more stuff from these guys...

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:29 PM

20. I heard this story 31 tears ago.

Rehashed preachin'

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:45 PM

21. The photo is not of Jeremiah Steepek

It's an unnamed homeless man in Great Britain, photographed in 2011:

http://bradgerrard.tumblr.com/post/11002307432/i-was-walking-down-the-street-in-richmond-saw

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Response to Shampoobra (Reply #21)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:02 PM

49. thank you for the link

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:17 AM

22. Maybe it's not true.

But it reflects reality, so maybe some pastor will make it come true. Doubt it.

$$$$$ is the reason for the season!

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Response to xfundy (Reply #22)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:20 AM

23. My dad always said if he wanted to be rich he'd become a pastor.

He died poor.

I joke to my mom occasionally that if I wanted to be rich I'd become a pastor.

She always replies, "That's what your daddy used to say!"

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:21 AM

24. Still waiting for the parable of "The Good Republican."

Like that'll ever happen!

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:34 AM

25. whoops

Wow. What a great story

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:00 AM

27. Hope its not true

Looks like a setup post... just sayin.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:06 AM

29. I'm sure it is just as true as the average TV show or movie that is " 'based' on a true story"

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #29)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 10:55 AM

44. sounds like a Twilight Zone

 

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:39 AM

33. What's with all the hyperventilating about what "snopes" thinks? ?

seriously. This is way beyond being "snopes-checked".

This is a lovely story, an inspirational theme, a meme if you will.

Stressing about whether it is all technically "true" or not in every detail is
"straining at gnats, and swallowing a camel". <- Jesus said it, not me.

Lighten up and show a little respect for the beauty & truth of the OP
please.


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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #33)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 02:29 AM

40. I agree. The story is retold

because it is relevant and people can take something from it whether it ever took place or not.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 02:24 AM

37. I agree, didn't ring true when I read it.

Yes, as soon as I started reading it, I thought it sounded like fiction.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 11:51 AM

47. Here's a similar story that appears to be true: Pastor Willie Lyle


http://www.wbir.com/news/article/279666/2/Tenn-pastor-goes-undercover-as-homeless-man-for-week

In that dream, God told Willie that he needed to live on the streets of Clarksville as a homeless and hungry person. He challenged Willie to experience firsthand just what it was like to have nothing - no home, no money, no friends, no food on even a semi-regular basis, no nothing.


Essentially, what God was saying to Willie was, "I hear you preach the word of God and share the message of Christ. Now, I want you to actually live it. And I want to hear how you liked having nothing and being treated with disrespect and disdain by almost everybody. I'm not finished. I want you to tell your new congregation about your experience and challenge them to make a difference in the world, beginning right here in Clarksville."




See the link from the Snopes entry: http://www.snopes.com/glurge/homelesspastor.asp

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #47)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:24 PM

51. good for him! He is determined to walk his talk and

I hope he doesn't get stuck on guilt-tripping his
congregation.. motivate them.

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