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What would you call it? (Original Post) Scuba Sep 2013 OP
There's no supposing about it. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #1
A lot of "Democrats" are in on it. Scuba Sep 2013 #2
No question. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #4
shameless kardonb Sep 2013 #31
Depends on which definition of treason you are using. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #3
How about when a group of politicians intentionally Enthusiast Sep 2013 #5
Yep...these fuckers are the real terrorists... tex-wyo-dem Sep 2013 #42
It must never be forgotten that "government" means "We the People..." KansDem Sep 2013 #6
+1 Scuba Sep 2013 #8
K & R L0oniX Sep 2013 #7
K & R democrank Sep 2013 #9
Damned straight. K&R nt TBF Sep 2013 #10
Will someone please coin a MORE powerful word than Treason? joanbarnes Sep 2013 #11
yes Chaco Dundee Sep 2013 #13
We need one treestar Sep 2013 #21
Treason is aiding the enemy... freebrew Sep 2013 #50
DAMN RIGHT I WOULD.... a kennedy Sep 2013 #12
Reaganism Precisely Sep 2013 #14
Man, that deserves a standing ovation. nt rivegauche Sep 2013 #15
Let's not forget fomenting armed insurrection.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #16
I wish BO would hire him. tblue Sep 2013 #17
Give Clinton credit for what? Why? merrily Sep 2013 #44
Yeah! Gitmo their lard butts! RedCloud Sep 2013 #18
Robert Riech to head the Fed? Why not? ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #19
No treestar Sep 2013 #20
Which part do you think is imagined? Scuba Sep 2013 #24
That was going to be my question Caretha Sep 2013 #34
Now there's some sound advice you should post in the BOG! cui bono Sep 2013 #40
K&R n/t lupinella Sep 2013 #22
I wonder if the self identified "pragmatic centrists" will weigh in on this. They arent fondof Reich rhett o rick Sep 2013 #23
I call it treason on steroids with contemptuous disrespect for the Declaration of Independence, indepat Sep 2013 #25
Certainly looks like it from here. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #26
Kick grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #27
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #28
It's actually worse than Treason. I can't expess my true feelings and the solution BlueJazz Sep 2013 #29
I'd call it "lack of a true Opposition Party." blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #30
Bingo! n/t truedelphi Sep 2013 #38
Well, I would. raouldukelives Sep 2013 #32
Nope. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #33
Well, why not libdude Sep 2013 #35
That's easy. Tuesday. Thor_MN Sep 2013 #36
Yup - treason Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2013 #37
He missed writing the legislation itself and having their stooges submit it. n/t cui bono Sep 2013 #39
Yes I would.... Jake2413 Sep 2013 #41
I'd call it what you'd call it. And what Robert Reich calls it. calimary Sep 2013 #43
What did Reich call it when Reich was in positions of D.C. power? merrily Sep 2013 #45
Damn right it's treason! B Calm Sep 2013 #46
Traitors to a man/woman...how can the average American not see this? Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 #47
it's treason! BillyRibs Sep 2013 #48
We know our election system with its legal bribes is corrupt, the question has been Dustlawyer Sep 2013 #49
k and r. agree with other posters that we have to come up with something much stronger to define niyad Sep 2013 #51
note to the banksters and hucksters and fraudsters--when you have killed us all off because we niyad Sep 2013 #52
199th rec. I'd call it, just another day at the office for the 1% leveymg Sep 2013 #53

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
1. There's no supposing about it.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 11:20 AM
Sep 2013

The Democrats need to resist this effort. Duh. So far they have done a piss-poor job of it.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. Depends on which definition of treason you are using.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 11:22 AM
Sep 2013

I looked the word up online, several varying definitions.

in general treason fits.

Sadly, tis not only the GOP that is doing some of the above behaviors.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
5. How about when a group of politicians intentionally
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 11:32 AM
Sep 2013

compromise the general welfare of the people of the nation? The fuckers sent our jobs overseas and we are supposed to shut up and like it. Now they want to further strip us of jobs. WTF? Sounds like treason to me. No commie ever did the nation so much harm as this new crop of right wing corporatist assholes.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
42. Yep...these fuckers are the real terrorists...
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:12 AM
Sep 2013

Now, they may not set off a car bomb in the middle of a crowded market, but they may as well...at least it would be quicker than the slow death that so many in poverty experience because of a lack of health care and other services, not to mention decent jobs so they can afford basic needs.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
6. It must never be forgotten that "government" means "We the People..."
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 11:48 AM
Sep 2013

The plutocrats have made the word "government" mean something undesirable.

Their 30-year war on "We the People" has done considerable damage to the average American. We cannot let it continue!

Remember, when TeaBaggers, Libertarians, right-wingers, and ignorant Republicans cry out to destroy the "government," they really mean "We the People."

When they display signs reading "I love my country but I fear my government" they really mean they fear "The People."

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
50. Treason is aiding the enemy...
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 10:06 AM
Sep 2013

this is almost exactly the definition of sedition, which is right up there with treason.
These asses are overthrowing our government from the inside, and using the courts and the media to do it.
It started long ago, think of the 'Great Depression', it was just a symptom of the over-reach of the very rich.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
16. Let's not forget fomenting armed insurrection....
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 12:48 PM
Sep 2013

We actually have people in this country who dream of the fall of civilization and the rise of themselves as Aryan Masters.

This vision usually involves them having their pick of the women and the extermination of all other races on sight.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
44. Give Clinton credit for what? Why?
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 05:03 AM
Sep 2013

Either Reich did not talk this way when he worked for Clinton, or Clinton ignored him.

Moreover, talk is cheap.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
20. No
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 01:14 PM
Sep 2013

It's politics. You fight rather than trying to pin the worst label you can find for some imaginary conspiracy.

 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
34. That was going to be my question
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 09:00 PM
Sep 2013

What do you want to bet he can't answer/won't answer, and if he does it will be not a direct answer.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
40. Now there's some sound advice you should post in the BOG!
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 11:05 PM
Sep 2013

And to everyone who uses the term Obama Derangement Syndrome. (even though they are using the term incorrectly according to its earliest known definition)

Doesn't seem quite right here though.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
23. I wonder if the self identified "pragmatic centrists" will weigh in on this. They arent fondof Reich
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 02:13 PM
Sep 2013

I think they prefer Summers. I am only guessing. I hope we can get some clarification.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
25. I call it treason on steroids with contemptuous disrespect for the Declaration of Independence,
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 04:17 PM
Sep 2013

our Constitution, our founding principles, and hell-bent on establishing a totalitarian fascist theocracy.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
29. It's actually worse than Treason. I can't expess my true feelings and the solution
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 07:22 PM
Sep 2013

...to the problem (on these pages). ...but I wish you Americans all the best.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
32. Well, I would.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 08:57 PM
Sep 2013

What would you call investors who help them achieve said wealth knowing full well what they are doing with it? Aiders & abetters?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
33. Nope.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 09:00 PM
Sep 2013

(1) is legal.
(2) is legal, except that "bribery" is illegal. But of course there is a fine line between bribery and politics as usual.
(3) is legal, provided that "voter suppression" does not rise to the level of actually intimidating voters.
(4) is legal, and is protected speech under the First Amendment.
(5) yes, that's a very big concern, because the only possible way for anyone to get access to news in 2013 is from newspapers and TV.

libdude

(136 posts)
35. Well, why not
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 09:05 PM
Sep 2013

call it treason? Now, two steps beyond just calling it treason, perhaps start a list with names of individuals, businesses, corporations, etc. Next, what do we do about it, boycott, or perhaps massive civil disobedience.
I did not mention voting as it seems a rather useless endeavor in light of a method of addressing treason.

calimary

(80,700 posts)
43. I'd call it what you'd call it. And what Robert Reich calls it.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 02:14 AM
Sep 2013

A keeper, for sure!

Needs to be said, read, and SPREAD!!!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
45. What did Reich call it when Reich was in positions of D.C. power?
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 05:04 AM
Sep 2013

ETA:

He served in the administrations of Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter and was Secretary of Labor under President Bill Clinton from 1993 to 1997.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reich

Talk is cheap. Beer nuts cost money. (Wish I knew which poster I stole that from, so I could give credit.)

Dustlawyer

(10,493 posts)
49. We know our election system with its legal bribes is corrupt, the question has been
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 09:26 AM
Sep 2013

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?

niyad

(112,435 posts)
51. k and r. agree with other posters that we have to come up with something much stronger to define
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 10:14 AM
Sep 2013

what they are doing.

niyad

(112,435 posts)
52. note to the banksters and hucksters and fraudsters--when you have killed us all off because we
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 10:16 AM
Sep 2013

cannot afford to buy food to feed ourselves, get medical care to get healed, cannot afford a roof over our heads, and are dying in your wars, who the hell do you think is going to do your scut work, buy your shoddy goods and services and continue to die in your wars?

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