Wed Feb 29, 2012, 06:26 PM
Bigmack (7,582 posts)
I posted - on FB - the pic of the Marine kissing his boyfriend...
.. in homecoming.
I think I stole my comment from somebody here on DU...
"If you feel the joy in this, you're part of the future. If you only feel outrage, you're part of the past."
Got 20 positive comments and 18 "likes" and one guy - in the medical wing of the Army - who said ...
"Why don't we just frame every other important discussion in the nation this way? To heck with trying to build consensus, let's just use inflammatory language and create division...almost as if there were only two positions on this topic. Saul Alinsky would be proud! For a person of my faith that would be like feeling joy for those men in the picture when they lied, cheated, stole, or otherwise transgressed the laws of God. It logically follows that if I feel no joy for sin and I believe that homosexual activity is a sin, then I feel no joy for homosexual activity. And yes, it does say in the Bible that homosexual activity is a sin."
I responded: "Glad to be able to polarize the discussion.... oh... wait... I wasn't the one who polarized it, was I? Seems like the paradigm for this discussion was set by the anti-gay crusaders.... all that talk about "sin", "perversion" and "disgusting" stuff. People in favor of equality for all Americans seldom go to those lengths.
I'm so liberal that I agree with Barry Goldwater... the ultra-conservative Republican candidate for president in 1964. He famously said... "Everyone knows that gays have served honorably in the military since at least the time of Julius Caesar.... You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight." Of course, Goldwater would be drummed out of the current Republican party.... and he'd be glad to go... before his death Goldwater went so far as to address establishment Republicans by saying, "Do not associate my name with anything you do. You are extremists, and you've hurt the Republican party much more than the Democrats have."
"Saul Alinsky... Where the hell did that come from? Conservatives and Regressives have gotten so used to framing the words... and framing the debate... that they don't seem to be able to argue without claiming Alinsky... or Rev. Wright.. are behind all thinking from the Left.
You’re in a medical unit, and in the military, you people are - literally - gods. In the Marine Corps, Navy corpsmen can do a lot of things nobody else can do. They can backtalk officers, for example. In our outfit, corpsmen couldn’t buy their own beer. They were sacred... specialists in keeping us alive and (reasonably) healthy. We never wanted them to yell “I don’t do housecalls!” when we yelled “Corpsman Up!”, so they were, as I said, gods.
OK... that was the buttering up...
You talk of sin and morality..... Unless the line infantry outfits have changed drastically, sin and morality... specifically sexual sin and morality... is not a consideration. All the heterosexual Marines I knew had sex with practically anyone - or any thing!
One only has to mention the word Olongapo, and sailors and Marines remember a town that was a cross between the bar scene in the first Star Wars movie and a New Orleans brothel on steroids. I remember one time ........ wait.... family audience.... never mind!
I remember the “joyboats” in Hong Kong, and the R&Rs in Bankok. I remember the “boom-boom” girls in Vietnam. There are bargirls in every GI bar in the world.
I know now that the gay Marines I served with must have gotten laid on leave and liberty, too. If the grunts hired child prostitutes, and married men - officers even - with kids had live-in girlfriends, why wouldn’t gay Marines indulge?
So, if the topic is the morality of homosexuality in the military, heterosexuals need to clean up their act - a LOT -before they throw stones at the gays for their sexual activities.
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I posted - on FB - the pic of the Marine kissing his boyfriend... (Original post)
|Arugula Latte||Feb 2012||#6|
Response to Nah7anyule (Reply #3)
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 07:21 PM
Ecumenist (6,086 posts)
4. So, now they're mentally CHALLENGED??!! WTF??!! Welcome to DU and enjoy what may turn out to be a
very short stay! Noone asked you to agree with anything as everyone has the right to believe any way they wish but to say what you did about a group of people is asinine. Wow, just wow! I wonder if you wandered into the wrong forum.
Response to Nah7anyule (Reply #3)
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 07:36 PM
Arugula Latte (46,887 posts)
6. I've concluded you are mentally unsound and perverted
because you have concluded that the way a significant percentage of the population is born biologically is some "lifestyle" they chose. You "disagree" with it and heap scorn on them for something that is no more their choosing than the color of their eyes. Think about this: Why would people "choose" their orientation knowing full well they will have to deal with idiotic dumbfucks such as yourself?
Response to Bigmack (Original post)
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 07:38 PM
JSnuffy (374 posts)
7. On a related note...
Here are some photos from a marine who deployed with him...
The pictured marine is in the 21st photo...
Good lord but that country just starts to blend together...