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2013-09-10T17:57:18+00:00

Maybe you also reject the spirit and letter of the UN Charter as a warmonger as well. US, Israeli threats of force against Iran are illegal and harm chances for a deal Even if we set aside the ethical and political implications of America's threatening Iran in the course of negotiations, there are two major legal issues with these threats. First, the 'threat of force' is illegal under international law. And second, any agreement reached by threat is invalid. The term threat refers to a government's announcement of an act of violence for the purpose of intimidating another government into changing its policies. Under the Charter, only the Security Council is qualified to make such threats. Every other threat of force is unlawful. http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2013/0307/US-Israeli-threats-of-force-against-Iran-are-illegal-and-harm-chances-for-a-deal Maybe you think that when a black pres does it, it ain't illegal. Rightwingers use to reject all that when Bush was sabre-rattling over Iran as well. Does that maybe make you kissing cousins with them? Maybe you'll approve of the next rightwingnut pres taking such matter into his own hands. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDQQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fblogs%2Fdefcon-hill%2Foperations%2F321103-white-house-insists-it-may-strike-syria-without-congressional-approval&ei=-1svUsmWI4LlrAGSu4GIBg&usg=AFQjCNFBXlUBrxdE80vUrDtfZuH6pagNCQ&bvm=bv.51773540,d.aWM What's the diff after all, between ignoring the rule of law and the the will of the people that want to see it observed, and just making up your own rules as you go along? Maybe you unwittingly or knowingly love the fruit of the poisoned tree, and like the common rightwinger, adhere strictly to "the ends justify the means" rationale in defense of your tribal chief. This is of course not to say that a positive outcome in the Syria case should be rejected, just the means by which it was harvested should not be forgotten, and indeed, avoided. Does this make me a racist? The reason I ask is because that seems to have become one of the fav goto non-arguments those not too smart rely on in situations like this.

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I don't approve of saber rattling! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #1

WTF: "Maybe you think that when a black pres does it, it ain't illegal." TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #2

I would be interested in any links implicating support for this specific action against Syria on the LanternWaste Sep 2013 #3

I know another DUer called many of us racist but it isn't cool... last1standing Sep 2013 #4

gopiscrap

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1. I don't approve of saber rattling!

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Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:59 PM

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TwilightGardener

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2. WTF: "Maybe you think that when a black pres does it, it ain't illegal."

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Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:07 PM

Sep 2013

That's just stupidicus.

LanternWaste

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3. I would be interested in any links implicating support for this specific action against Syria on the

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Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:18 PM

Sep 2013

Never thought of FDR and Kennedy as warmongers (how dramatic in sound, how ominous in intent is that petulant word-- needs a soundtrack... maybe Hans Zimmer?). However, within the rhetorical parameters given by you, that is precisely what they were.

However, I would be interested in any links implicating support for this specific action against Syria on the President's race. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Buller? Or is that simply a premise you came up with on your own, lacking any evidence, illustration or example?

last1standing

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4. I know another DUer called many of us racist but it isn't cool...

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Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:23 PM

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to respond by calling many Obama supporters racist in return.