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Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:46 AM Feb 2012

Ralph Nader: "Spoiler" is a "bigoted word" used by the two parties that have "spoiled" our system

Nader's pimping another run, and mentioned a Website where he wants people to go in order to get him on the ballot.

Chris Jansing (MSNBC) asked him if he understands that some people see him as a "spoiler."

He said "Spoiler is a bigoted word used by the two parties that have spoiled our political system."

F.U.R.N.

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Ralph Nader: "Spoiler" is a "bigoted word" used by the two parties that have "spoiled" our system (Original Post) Amerigo Vespucci Feb 2012 OP
*sigh!* HappyMe Feb 2012 #1
I give his potential run a Michelle Bachmann "yay". Liberal Veteran Feb 2012 #2
OK, trash me, but Nader makes me want to throw up! His sick gift to us was Bush!! nanabugg Feb 2012 #3
but you can rewrite it nt G_j Feb 2012 #10
Can anyone tell me one positive thing that Nader's 2000 campaign produced? libinnyandia Feb 2012 #4
Fuck Nader. trumad Feb 2012 #5
Does anyone care what this pathetic pissant thinks hifiguy Feb 2012 #6
He's a douche RockaFowler Feb 2012 #7
Bye, Ralph. MineralMan Feb 2012 #8
one too many strokes for that idiot.... dionysus Feb 2012 #12
the two parties have spoiled the political system G_j Feb 2012 #9
"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #11
oh good grief iverglas Feb 2012 #13
Fuck Ralph Nader...nt SidDithers Feb 2012 #14
Ralph Nader is regarded as a has-been and a joke at this point, I'd say. Lex Feb 2012 #15
The differences are that Pat Paulsen knew it was a joke hifiguy Feb 2012 #18
...but Paulsen wasn't serious. Nader is delusional and serious. demosincebirth Feb 2012 #19
Exactly - Paulsen was playing it for laughs, hifiguy Feb 2012 #20
says the babbling idiot who put W in the oval office.... bowens43 Feb 2012 #16
His original plan was to get someone to run against Obama in the primary. LoZoccolo Feb 2012 #17
"Bigoted"? mac56 Feb 2012 #21
He never lacks for hyperbole. n/t arthritisR_US Feb 2012 #22
.. mdmc Mar 2012 #23
He's right. The two party system is a joke. white_wolf Mar 2012 #24
So start a party. Nobody's stopping you. Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #32
Oh please you know as well as I do that the system is rigged- white_wolf Mar 2012 #34
Everyone please take note of the new acronym, F.U.R.N. Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #25
I'm here to protect and serve Amerigo Vespucci Mar 2012 #26
.. mdmc Mar 2012 #27
Fuck Ralph Nader...nt SidDithers Mar 2012 #28
3/1 du'ers prefer mdmc Mar 2012 #31
As angry and resentful as I am/was at Nader, Quantess Mar 2012 #29
I don't care who said it. He's right. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #30
No Ralph, in a "winner take all" system like ours, it's designed that way. baldguy Mar 2012 #33
 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
3. OK, trash me, but Nader makes me want to throw up! His sick gift to us was Bush!!
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:54 AM
Feb 2012

OK, Nader raiders...have at me but you can't change history!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
6. Does anyone care what this pathetic pissant thinks
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:00 PM
Feb 2012

any more?

Thanks for eight years of the Chimp, asshole.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
11. "Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:07 PM
Feb 2012
"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be unworthy of a reasonable or moral man." Thomas Jefferson to William Branch Giles, 1795.
 

iverglas

(38,549 posts)
13. oh good grief
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:11 PM
Feb 2012

Is it not enough that opponents of policies that permit firearms to be carried around in public by one and all are now constantly (and even here at DU) being assailed with this "bigot" nonsense -- now an expression of an opinion about a political issue is to be called bigotry too??

Not that I necessarily agree wtih the opinion in question.

I'm a 40+ year member of a "third party" here in Canada. The Liberal Party here blows long and hard about how we're the spoilers, preventing them from getting their rightful seats and majority in the House. This year, we are the second party, the official opposition, and the Liberals are probably still whining about how we denied them their due and left them sitting as a rump at the far end of the chamber.

While there are many things I have called the Liberals who sing this sad refrain (including here at DU in the Canada forum for the last decade), it has never occurred to me to call them bigots.

indeed.



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Lex

(34,108 posts)
15. Ralph Nader is regarded as a has-been and a joke at this point, I'd say.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:13 PM
Feb 2012

Like that comedian Pat Paulsen who used to run for President.





 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
18. The differences are that Pat Paulsen knew it was a joke
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:23 PM
Feb 2012

and was funny. Nader has been suffering from delusions of relevancy for 25 years or more.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
20. Exactly - Paulsen was playing it for laughs,
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:17 PM
Feb 2012

not seriously. Nader, OTOH, should be buried in a shroud of his own self-righteous bullshit.

 

LoZoccolo

(29,393 posts)
17. His original plan was to get someone to run against Obama in the primary.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:15 PM
Feb 2012

That never panned out, so why do this?

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
24. He's right. The two party system is a joke.
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 09:18 PM
Mar 2012

I don't see how anyone can support it. It needs to be done away with. It's an outdated relic.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
32. So start a party. Nobody's stopping you.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:08 PM
Mar 2012

It's not so much that we support "the two party system" here on DU. It's more that we support the Democratic party.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
34. Oh please you know as well as I do that the system is rigged-
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:32 PM
Mar 2012

to ensure that no party besides the Democrats or Republicans are able to gain any significant numbers on the national stage.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
25. Everyone please take note of the new acronym, F.U.R.N.
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 09:26 PM
Mar 2012

Thank You, Amerigo Vespucci, yet once again you are showing the way.


F.U.R.N.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
29. As angry and resentful as I am/was at Nader,
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 01:40 PM
Mar 2012

he is right. Our political system needs serious revamping. We need a major overhaul.

The 2 party system is stale and unproductive.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
30. I don't care who said it. He's right.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 01:49 PM
Mar 2012

Our currently existing and largely dysfunctional party system is not set in stone or preordained by God. Political parties aren't granted power; they have to earn it. People are free to vote for whomever they want.

Parties that fail to adapt to changing times become obsolete.

I vote for Democrats not because I'm enamored of their watere-down principals and corporate-friendly policies, but because they are less bad than Republicans.

This is a political party system that badly needs to be spoiled.

Go, Whigs!

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
33. No Ralph, in a "winner take all" system like ours, it's designed that way.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:13 PM
Mar 2012

If you really want it to change, campaign for Instant Run-off Voting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_run-off_voting

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