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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:07 PM Sep 2013

After Syria Accepts, US says Offer to Call Off War 'Rhetorical'

After Syria Accepts, US says Offer to Call Off War 'Rhetorical'
John Kerry says Assad has one week to turn over weapons as Assad speaks to U.S. audience warning of dangerous consequences for its involvement
Common Dreams * Jon Queally, staff writer * Sept. 9, 2013

Update (12:30 PM):

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry was for Syria giving up control of its chemical weapons before he was against it.

Jumping on comments made by Kerry earlier in the day (see below), Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov backed the idea of having the Syrian government hand over control of its chemical weapons stock piles to a team of international monitors.

"We do not know whether Syria will agree to this, but if the establishment of international control over chemical weapons in that country will avoid strikes, we will immediately begin working with Damascus,” Lavrov said. “We call on the Syrian leadership not only to agree on a statement of storage of chemical weapons under international supervision, but also to their subsequent destruction.”

Following Russia's offer, however, the U.S. State Department immediately backtracked, with spokeswomen Jennifer Psaki saying that Kerry's earlier comments were only meant to make a “rhetorical” point about the unlikelihood of Assad ever bending to international pressure.

But, as Agence France-Presse and Reuters both tweeted shortly after Lavrov's proposal went public, the Syrians seem very keen to the idea of a negotiated settlement over their chemical weapons:
-snip-

It remains to be seen how these latest developments will play out as official statements from all parties have yet to surface.

In the immediate term, however, what is striking so far is the speed with which the U.S. seems to have tried to close the door on the possibility of a coordinated resolution despite the fact a) it was their idea in the first b) it would ostensibly end the need for a war the American people clearly don't want and c) it would represent the kind of "political solution" that nearly everyone agrees is the only way to end the violence and bloodshed in Syria.
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After Syria Accepts, US says Offer to Call Off War 'Rhetorical' (Original Post) 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 OP
lol, your article headline is bending over backwards to be WRONG Schema Thing Sep 2013 #1
No, that's exactly the point the title made. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #4
uh, yeah, no. Schema Thing Sep 2013 #6
You don't seem to understand what rhetorical means. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #7
Seriously. You are mistaken. cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #8
Yeah, who didn't see this coming? polly7 Sep 2013 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author cui bono Sep 2013 #3
This is F'ing FALSE. Please delete. The article is a lie. cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #5
We shall see, what we shall see 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #9
Kerry is flip-flopping? RobertEarl Sep 2013 #10

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
1. lol, your article headline is bending over backwards to be WRONG
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:11 PM
Sep 2013

the truth is found in the text:


"spokeswomen Jennifer Psaki saying that Kerry's earlier comments were only meant to make a “rhetorical” point about the unlikelihood of Assad ever bending to international pressure.








 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
4. No, that's exactly the point the title made.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:16 PM
Sep 2013

Kerry apparently thought he could push Russia and Syria into a corner by demanding Syria hand over its chemical weapons, and when Russia agreed to that, the state department said "just kidding!"

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
6. uh, yeah, no.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:22 PM
Sep 2013

He didn't say "just kidding".


He said, "my comments about "Syria not ever doing it, and it couldn't happen anyway' where rhetorical".


IOW, "of course this has possibility if they'll actually go through with it".


But keep bending over backwards to be wrong. It's funny to watch.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
2. Yeah, who didn't see this coming?
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:12 PM
Sep 2013

They don't give a shit about anyone gassing anyone, that was plain from the start.

Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
5. This is F'ing FALSE. Please delete. The article is a lie.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:17 PM
Sep 2013

"Following Russia's offer, however, the U.S. State Department immediately backtracked, with spokeswomen Jennifer Psaki saying that Kerry's earlier comments were only meant to make a “rhetorical” point about the unlikelihood of Assad ever bending to international pressure."

That is a lie, and I don't see how the author can not know it is a lie.

The State Depratment rolled back Kerry's prediction that Assad would not take the offer. Not the offer itself.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
9. We shall see, what we shall see
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:27 PM
Sep 2013

as it's still unfolding, I'm not about to delete anything .. but I'm hoping
Team Obama follows through and accepts this offer from Syria & Russia,
and we call off attacking Syria. <-- when this happens, I'll delete.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
10. Kerry is flip-flopping?
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:28 PM
Sep 2013

I mean one would think that our SoS would be one whose stance was clear as a bell.

Instead we all are left wondering what the hell they really mean.

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