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Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:34 PM

Key Questions On Syria-Assad Isn't "Winning" & Had Incentive To Use Chemical Agents

Have seen numerous assertions that Assad is clearly winning and had no incentive to use chemical agents. This group of questions has some basic information on these issues.

Key Questions on the Conflict in Syria
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/28/world/middleeast/the-conflict-in-syria.html?_r=0

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How did the conflict in Syria begin, who are the antagonists and why are they still fighting?

The conflict in Syria grew out of the 2011 Arab Spring protests, when Syrians peacefully demonstrated in towns across the country against Mr. Assad, who succeeded his father, Hafez al-Assad, as president; between the two, the family has held the presidency for four decades. Unlike some other countries facing democratic protests, the Syrian government responded with violence, killing many protesters and radicalizing the movement. Civilians began to take up arms, at first to defend their demonstrations and later to fight security forces in their cities and towns. This nascent armed movement was at first bolstered by army defectors who organized themselves, with Turkish help, under the umbrella of the Free Syrian Army, but over time radical Islamists, including some allied with Al Qaeda, came to play a dominant role, defeating government forces on the battlefield in some towns in the north and east and imposing their rule there.

Where does the conflict currently stand?

Today, the Assad government remains the strongest single actor in the conflict, although it has lost a significant amount of territory in the north and east and faces a stalemate against rebels in important areas of the country, including Aleppo and the suburbs of Damascus. Nevertheless, it has a strong arsenal, including chemical weapons, and robust support from its main allies, Russia and Iran. The rebels remain divided among hundreds of small militias and brigades, the most powerful of which are radical Islamist groups. They control much of the country’s north and east, including its borders with Turkey and Iraq, and have begun to enforce Islamic law in some towns. The more secular rebels aligned with the Free Syrian Army are active in towns and suburbs in the south, including the areas of Damascus targeted by the suspected chemical attack, but they are generally weaker than their Islamist counterparts.

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The conflict has been growing in intensity and scope for more than two years, with the United Nations estimating more than 100,000 dead and millions displaced, why would the government use chemical weapons now?

There are a number of theories about why the Syrian government might have chosen to use chemical weapons at this point, just days after United Nations weapons inspectors arrived to investigate earlier allegations of chemical weapons use. One theory proposed by a senior Israeli official is that the attack in the Damascus suburbs may have been a miscalculation: Syria may have been using chemical agents on a smaller scale for some time, and used an unintentionally large amount in last week’s attack. “Maybe they were trying to hit one place or to get one effect and they got a much greater effect than they thought,” said the official.

Another theory, argued by Juan Cole, a professor of Middle East Studies at the University of Michigan, is that a siege mentality may have contributed to the Assad government’s decision to use chemical weapons. Faced with intractable Sunni rebels in the Damascus suburbs, the Alawite-led government may have decided to send them a message that the capital would be defended at all costs. “It is the typical behavior of a weak regime facing superior demographic forces (the Alawites are far outnumbered by Sunnis) to deploy unconventional weaponry,” Mr. Cole wrote in a blog post.

What do the United States and its allies hope to achieve through military intervention in the Syrian conflict, and what are the risks?

Pentagon officials have said that President Obama is considering limited military action to “deter and degrade” the Syrian government’s ability to deploy chemical weapons. He is not considering a more ambitious air campaign like the one that helped oust Muammar el-Qaddafi in Libya in 2011, nor is he considering any action that would lead to the deployment of American troops in Syria. Any strikes would target the military units that have deployed chemical weapons, said Pentagon officials, as well as their headquarters and rockets or artillery units that could be used to launch them. Any strikes would not target chemical weapons storage facilities, which could have environmental or humanitarian consequences or open up sensitive sites to looters.

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Reply Key Questions On Syria-Assad Isn't "Winning" & Had Incentive To Use Chemical Agents (Original post)
KittyWampus Aug 2013 OP
RobertEarl Aug 2013 #1
leftstreet Aug 2013 #3
KittyWampus Aug 2013 #6
RobertEarl Aug 2013 #9
KamaAina Aug 2013 #2
Brewinblue Aug 2013 #4
KittyWampus Aug 2013 #7
Brewinblue Aug 2013 #10
leftstreet Aug 2013 #8
David__77 Aug 2013 #12
Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #5
GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #11
Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #13
KurtNYC Aug 2013 #14

Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:37 PM

1. Same NYT that has Iraqi blood dripping from their war teeth

Screw the NYT. They are mere pawns for the warmongers. They should just STFU.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:42 PM

3. +1

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:58 PM

6. But I'm sure you agree with their coverage of the NSA & Snowden.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 05:06 PM

9. This is war, eh?

You having a problem keeping distinctions? There is quite the gulf between this maybe bombing and the simple truth of spying.

People die from bombs. Snowden killed no one.


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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:38 PM

2. "and have begun to enforce Islamic law in some towns"

Hey! Let's back them!

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:42 PM

4. If Obama supported him,

you would find and post an article touting Assad for sainthood.

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Response to Brewinblue (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:58 PM

7. did you forget which DU account you're logged in on today? LOL!

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 05:09 PM

10. Oh crap,

my ProSense login failed!

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Response to Brewinblue (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:59 PM

8. Obama doesn't want to remove Assad

The WH has made that clear

Not sure that constitutes 'support'

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 05:18 PM

12. They said that about Gaddafi too.

They said it was "protecting civilians" and not to facilitate regime change. It was a LIE, of course. Obama lied to us, and I imagine he is doing so again.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:57 PM

5. The regime has had strategic victories this year in Qusayr and Homs.

Assad may not win, but he's not going to lose.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 05:17 PM

11. Motives are important ...

but evidence is more so.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 05:23 PM

13. Interesting article

Thanks.

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Response to KittyWampus (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 05:40 PM

14. Key question: Who did western powers pick to head the opposition government of Syria?

Answer: Geophysicist, and lobbyist for Anglo-Dutch Shell Oil company Sheikh Ahmad Moaz Al-Khatib. Al-Khatib spent six years working in Syria for a joint venture of the government oil company and Shell Oil, 1985-1991. He is believed to be a member of the Muslim Brotherhood and has advocated a return to sharia law in his speeches while espousing more moderate positions in others.

Al-Khatib resigned for a second time on April 22nd of this year. On April 23rd, Israel accused Assad's forces of using chemical weapons...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/23/us-syria-israel-idUSBRE93M07H20130423

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