Sat Feb 25, 2012, 09:58 PM
kpete (38,895 posts)
John BOLTON Dodges Question From Vet & Insults Him-Fox Edits Out Booing & Replaces It With ApplauseLast edited Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:02 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2)
FOX edits, fakes applause for John Bolton pro-war statement
Bolton dodges question from anti-war veteran about blowback, insults him; Fox edits out the audience booing and replaces with it applause. The 2-minute video is a public meeting of former US Ambassador to the UN John Bolton responding to a US war veteran’s question. The video shows that FOX then edits-out the audience response to replace it with applause from a different person’s question. The proof is that the applause-segment shows a different person walking away from the microphone than the person who asked the question. The veteran testified that the audience booed Mr. Bolton’s answer. JUST WATCH!!! http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/02/2-minute-video-fox-edits-fakes-applause-for-john-bolton-pro-war-statement.html
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| kpete | Feb 2012 | OP | |
| Angry Dragon | Feb 2012 | #1 | |
| zbdent | Feb 2012 | #6 | |
| mazzarro | Feb 2012 | #27 | |
| leftyohiolib | Feb 2012 | #30 | |
| jonthebru | Feb 2012 | #35 | |
| DeSwiss | Feb 2012 | #40 | |
| New Yawker | Feb 2012 | #47 | |
| MrScorpio | Feb 2012 | #2 | |
| Ikonoklast | Feb 2012 | #36 | |
| MrScorpio | Feb 2012 | #37 | |
| shcrane71 | Feb 2012 | #42 | |
| Quantess | Feb 2012 | #3 | |
| oldhippydude | Feb 2012 | #9 | |
| Quantess | Feb 2012 | #69 | |
| teddy51 | Feb 2012 | #4 | |
| DeSwiss | Feb 2012 | #41 | |
| chrisa | Feb 2012 | #44 | |
| stockholmer | Feb 2012 | #64 | |
| chrisa | Feb 2012 | #67 | |
| vanlassie | Feb 2012 | #5 | |
| Uncle Joe | Feb 2012 | #7 | |
| socialindependocrat | Feb 2012 | #8 | |
| bluedigger | Feb 2012 | #11 | |
| fascisthunter | Feb 2012 | #26 | |
| Octafish | Feb 2012 | #10 | |
| woo me with science | Feb 2012 | #17 | |
| raouldukelives | Feb 2012 | #33 | |
| SemperEadem | Feb 2012 | #48 | |
| 90-percent | Feb 2012 | #50 | |
| Major Hogwash | Feb 2012 | #12 | |
| The Wielding Truth | Feb 2012 | #20 | |
| progress2k12nbynd | Feb 2012 | #13 | |
| daleanime | Feb 2012 | #22 | |
| AnotherMother4Peace | Feb 2012 | #28 | |
| AtheistCrusader | Feb 2012 | #62 | |
| David West | Feb 2012 | #63 | |
| David West | Feb 2012 | #14 | |
| pinboy3niner | Feb 2012 | #15 | |
| kpete | Feb 2012 | #19 | |
| Tsiyu | Feb 2012 | #23 | |
| mmonk | Feb 2012 | #24 | |
| renate | Feb 2012 | #38 | |
| drm604 | Feb 2012 | #55 | |
| librechik | Feb 2012 | #61 | |
| stockholmer | Feb 2012 | #65 | |
| Faryn Balyncd | Feb 2012 | #16 | |
| edhopper | Feb 2012 | #18 | |
| newspeak | Feb 2012 | #32 | |
| Bainbridge Bear | Feb 2012 | #46 | |
| edhopper | Feb 2012 | #51 | |
| think | Feb 2012 | #21 | |
| fascisthunter | Feb 2012 | #25 | |
| butterfly77 | Feb 2012 | #29 | |
| eggplant | Feb 2012 | #31 | |
| Vincardog | Feb 2012 | #34 | |
| NICO9000 | Feb 2012 | #39 | |
| chrisa | Feb 2012 | #43 | |
| NCcoast | Feb 2012 | #45 | |
| 90-percent | Feb 2012 | #49 | |
| onehandle | Feb 2012 | #52 | |
| AlanGrayson | Feb 2012 | #53 | |
| wial | Feb 2012 | #54 | |
| Rex | Feb 2012 | #56 | |
| fascisthunter | Feb 2012 | #57 | |
| TownDrunk2 | Feb 2012 | #58 | |
| Old and In the Way | Feb 2012 | #59 | |
| underpants | Feb 2012 | #60 | |
| joshcryer | Feb 2012 | #66 | |
| David West | Feb 2012 | #68 |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:02 PM
Angry Dragon (24,073 posts)
1. There should be some way to sue Fox for their lies
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #1)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:22 PM
zbdent (34,522 posts)
6. NOPE ... Faux won a case where the courts said that
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Faux could lie.
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Response to zbdent (Reply #6)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 11:15 AM
mazzarro (2,791 posts)
27. Even if a litigant can show that injury has resulted from Fox News lies? -- n/t
Response to zbdent (Reply #6)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 11:39 AM
leftyohiolib (3,122 posts)
30. there was a reporter who wrote a story for fox. fox didnt like somepart of it and told her to change
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it. the reporter said she didnt want to lie to the public and fox fired her. she sued and lost and that's what the judge said , as her employer they can tell her to lie
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Response to zbdent (Reply #6)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:25 PM
jonthebru (963 posts)
35. Yup, they did, it was a local station in Florida.
Response to zbdent (Reply #6)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 09:47 PM
New Yawker (62 posts)
47. Need to revisit it
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It's a major issue.
Media should NOT have any right to lie to the public. Fine. Label Fox as "Not necessarily the news". Remember that old HBO series? |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:06 PM
MrScorpio (55,316 posts)
2. Stalin would be proud. n/t
Response to MrScorpio (Reply #2)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:41 PM
Ikonoklast (21,631 posts)
36. Proud? Are you kidding me?
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Stalin would be JEALOUS.
"If only I had propaganda arm like that, Pravda looks like amateurs next to Fox!" |
Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #36)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 04:30 PM
MrScorpio (55,316 posts)
37. Pieyow! n/t
Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #36)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 08:33 PM
shcrane71 (1,706 posts)
42. Soviet citizens (we were told) knew that Pravda was propaganda. Many Americans
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haven't realized the same about the Faux network... even with Murdoch's investigations in the UK.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:08 PM
Quantess (23,951 posts)
3. The original guy had 3/4 sleeves
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The guy who asked the question that got applause wore full length sleeves.
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Response to Quantess (Reply #3)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:35 PM
oldhippydude (2,514 posts)
9. must not beleive
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in freedom to bare arms!!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:08 PM
teddy51 (3,491 posts)
4. John Bolton is, has been and always will be a POS. He is an asswipe of major proportions. n/t
Response to chrisa (Reply #44)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 08:15 PM
stockholmer (3,751 posts)
64. Lokey?
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Because even Pinkie Pie FUCKING hates John Bolton
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Response to stockholmer (Reply #64)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 08:45 PM
chrisa (3,365 posts)
67. Smokey?
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Seriously, why did I bump this? Haha
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:10 PM
vanlassie (1,696 posts)
5. Nothing to see here, Citizen, move along.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:32 PM
Uncle Joe (24,997 posts)
7. Kicked and recommended.
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Thanks for the thread, kpete.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:46 PM
socialindependocrat (1,372 posts)
8. So the FCC accepts propaganda as O.K.
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Do we have a minister of propaganda assigned yet?
Where is the oversight? You know how to save money? We get rid of all the oversight committees because they don't do their jobs anyway! That ought to save us billions! |
Response to socialindependocrat (Reply #8)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:41 PM
bluedigger (10,579 posts)
11. What are you, some kind of socialist?
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Propaganda was privatized back in the mid 80's.
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Response to socialindependocrat (Reply #8)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 11:10 AM
fascisthunter (28,608 posts)
26. oh... but it's a "left Wing Media".... lol
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shows how insane right wingers are to believe in such bullshit, but they have to, because they are guilty of what they project, and too dishonest, and weak to admit to it.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:37 PM
Octafish (33,442 posts)
10. Why don't the other networks run with this? It shows Fox lies.
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Then, again, the rest of Corporate McPravda would run with it if they weren't liars, too.
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Response to Octafish (Reply #10)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 08:42 AM
woo me with science (19,573 posts)
17. +1
Response to Octafish (Reply #10)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 12:01 PM
raouldukelives (2,375 posts)
33. It might be discouraged by higher up's
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I know I prefer feeling safe when I walk to the car at night.
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Response to Octafish (Reply #10)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:20 AM
SemperEadem (7,997 posts)
48. the same reason why the other networks
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took fux's side when Obama made the remark that they weren't really news. Every news outlet stood with fux even though they all know that they lie.
IMO, the fux's editors have absolutely no professional integrity. They're whores trying to make a buck. |
Response to Octafish (Reply #10)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:33 AM
90-percent (4,601 posts)
50. other networks
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My hope is that Keith will run with this. It is right up his Fox bashing alley. And if there was ever a news organization that deserved bashing, it is so Fox/Rupert/Ailes.
However , it should be the FCC and Congressional hearings doing the bashing. -90% Jimmy |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 01:08 AM
Major Hogwash (12,365 posts)
12. Fox was the worst thing to ever happen to tv in America
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I don't know how many times they labeled some Republican that had just been busted as a Democrat, but they did it many times.
There is no truth at Faux Snooze. |
Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #12)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 10:27 AM
The Wielding Truth (8,439 posts)
20. I agree they have turned freedom of the Press on it's ear. Lies are not true journalism.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 01:51 AM
progress2k12nbynd (221 posts)
13. Who the hell on DU is watching Fox News??
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Response to progress2k12nbynd (Reply #13)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 10:37 AM
daleanime (2,970 posts)
22. Very hard working people....
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just trying to keep track of all those lies is a pretty rough job.
Lord knows I wouldn't last a day. |
Response to progress2k12nbynd (Reply #13)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 11:21 AM
AnotherMother4Peace (1,724 posts)
28. It's called social responsibility - Gotta keep an eye on bullies & liars, & call them on it. nt
Response to progress2k12nbynd (Reply #13)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 04:34 PM
AtheistCrusader (14,210 posts)
62. I believe the video clip was made by the gentleman that asked the question.
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Perfectly normal to re-visit footage of an event in which one participated. It appears he noticed the deception, because the applause didn't fit his recollection of the crowd's response.
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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #62)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 05:09 PM
David West (101 posts)
63. Yeah, I don't normally watch Fox news.
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I don't even have anything more than an antenna for my TV and I really didn't think my question would make the final cut (for obvious reasons) so I didn't even go out of my way to watch the episode when it aired. Someone else who had been at the event messaged me on FB congratulating me for having made the cut, so I hopped online and found the episode. I was just going to put up the clip for family and friends to see when I caught the ridiculous editing job they did and figured I should point that out to people.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 02:19 AM
David West (101 posts)
14. Thanks for posting this!
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Glad to see this is getting some exposure. I actually posted about this yesterday. I'm the guy asking the question in the video. I'm amazed my question made the show at all! Not so surprised about the skulduggerous editing, though. Having been there and KNOWING that he got booed and being a filmmaker and video editor myself, it wasn't hard at all to spot the edit. I wish I had access to a higher quality copy, but it's pretty obvious that it switches from me with no hat and a dark green shirt with rolled up sleeves to a dude with a fedora and rolled down black sleeves. If you look around the 0:20 when the camera is behind me, you can see the guy with the hat standing there. All they did was use the (very meager) applause from the very next question. Very, very dishonest editing. I'm almost surprised they didn't try to make me get booed!
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Response to David West (Reply #14)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 02:43 AM
pinboy3niner (27,548 posts)
15. Good job confronting him!
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Did you see the story on 2 vets arrested Friday at a Rumsfeld event? ... Two arrested at Rumsfeld event at Truman Library http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002350107 |
Response to David West (Reply #14)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 09:49 AM
kpete (38,895 posts)
19. Hey David West
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THANK YOU!
peace, kpete |
Response to David West (Reply #14)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 10:40 AM
Tsiyu (15,455 posts)
23. Good on you
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How creepy can Faux News get? They keep lowering the bar for liars. Lies, lies, lies, is all they've got to serve, and stupid people just eat those lies right up. Yum. Yum. |
Response to David West (Reply #14)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 10:59 AM
mmonk (47,307 posts)
24. I posted this on Facebook.
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They need to be called on how they operate in a public way.
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Response to David West (Reply #14)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 04:36 PM
renate (7,926 posts)
38. good for you!
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(That's real applause, by the way.) |
Response to David West (Reply #14)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 12:48 PM
drm604 (13,962 posts)
55. Welcome to DU
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and thank you!
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Response to David West (Reply #14)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 04:11 PM
librechik (25,004 posts)
61. welcome to DU!
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we all hate Fox over here (or mostly)
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Response to David West (Reply #14)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 08:25 PM
stockholmer (3,751 posts)
65. +10000 and........carry on the good fight, Mr West
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 08:34 AM
Faryn Balyncd (3,845 posts)
16. The most honest thing Fox could do is edit out "News" from their fraudulent name.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 09:34 AM
edhopper (6,644 posts)
18. A Faux viewer says:
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Sure they lie, but they lie for the right reasons. Besides, the rest of the lame-stream media lies for the lib-er-al left.
Anyway I'm an idiot. |
Response to edhopper (Reply #18)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 11:49 AM
newspeak (4,847 posts)
32. if a faux viewer really said that
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then they are truly fekked. A lie can hurt millions of people. Lying about iraq has cost this country and iraq, thousands of lives and has cost us billions of dollars. What lie would be for the "right" reason, and for whom? So, the truth, even if they don't like it; is worse than the lies told.
We, as a country, have truly gone down the rabbit hole, when americans who proudly wear those flag pins or wave it on their auto; seem to be okay with lying propaganda that pushes an agenda that helps global corporations OVER THEIR OWN DAMN COUNTRY AND ITS' PEOPLE!!! How fekked up do you have to be to continue to believe the divisive bullshite against other fellow americans propagated by a network started by a cretin who wasn't even from this country? I remember after 9/11, all the congresscritters putting on their little flag pins. Those pins were originally for congresscritters who actually served their country in the military. But, then, all of the chickenhawks could wear them. And there was faux, castigating some democrat for not wearing a flag pin. Because those pins were once a badge of someone who faithfully served their country in the military. Yeah, faux viewers, keep thinking you're the real americans, while you get played by a network with their own agenda, which may not be in the best interest for our country or the majority of americans. |
Response to edhopper (Reply #18)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 09:40 PM
Bainbridge Bear (155 posts)
46. "lame-stream media"
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where did you get that, from Sarah Palin? The so-called librul media is deeply and increasingly corporatist so what are you complaining about? Oh well, your last sentence seems true.
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Response to Bainbridge Bear (Reply #46)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:16 AM
edhopper (6,644 posts)
51. You do understand
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it was
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 10:28 AM
think (2,257 posts)
21. K&R for Faux News
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 11:08 AM
fascisthunter (28,608 posts)
25. But This is the "REALITY" Reich Wingers want
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pathological nut cases without a shred of decency.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 11:26 AM
butterfly77 (16,765 posts)
29. Fox makes up..
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shit and then wants to President to implement their bullshit policies in their timeframe.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 11:43 AM
eggplant (975 posts)
31. Has anyone sent this on to Stewart and/or Colbert?
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I would, but I don't know how.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 12:51 PM
Vincardog (17,413 posts)
34. So according to BoltON Bush the lesser, Darth Cheney, Alito, Rice and Rummy all need to be tried.
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Or is he saying that they have already been jailed for their roles in the illegal wars and war crimes?
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 04:52 PM
NICO9000 (970 posts)
39. And HIS military service was in the Maryland National Guard!
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Born in 1948 - perfect draft age. What a hunk of fuck this guy is.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 08:46 PM
chrisa (3,365 posts)
43. Days Bolton spent fighting a war: 0
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And yet this tool tells an Iraq war veteran what he should think of his experiences. Hmm...
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Response to chrisa (Reply #43)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 09:37 PM
NCcoast (231 posts)
45. John Bolton (R - Chicken Hawk)
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Sociopathic chicken st!ts like John Bolton are adept at using peoples principles against them. You'd have to be completely devoid of conscious to sit there and lecture people who served in a war you worked to create but would have never exposed yourself to danger of. Good on that soldier for standing up to that little rat. Men like Bolton should be constantly treated to open contempt. It's not like the media is going to do their job and call him out for what he is. It's up to us.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:27 AM
90-percent (4,601 posts)
49. Hypocritical and stupid Chickenhawk Bolton
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That Bolton is absolutely infuriating. Report it to your superiors –he’s telling you to be a whistle blower! Like it’s easy and no big deal. His own administration, and perhaps much more so Obama’s, sets out to crush and destroy whistle blowers. Think of what he would have said about you if you had followed his advice back then, he’d probably have tried to publicly destroy you.
Another implication of his, based on his Pulitzer Prize caliber weasel wording, was that you wouldn’t feel so bad if you had not committed war crimes and killed babies and instead simply followed US rules of engagement. Then you wouldn’t be so upset at your long history of war crimes. My one call to the great Thom Hartmann was asking about the fact that, in our country, it is perfectly legal to knowingly lie on a news broadcast. Steel Trap Thom was all over it, as he once hosted the principals from the Florida Fox News station on his show. How many Americas know that anything they learn in any American media can range to professional well researched JOURNALISM to absolute bullshit propaganda? David West: Thank you for serving, thank you for speaking truth to power in the belly of the beast. Thank you for being a great American. Thank you for your contribution to this video. Lastly, thanks for being on DU. It is an honor! -90% Jimmy |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:48 AM
AlanGrayson (1 post)
53. Reinstate The Fairness Doctrine
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The Fairness Doctrine will certainly help to get those propagandists off the airwaves.
The way we have it set up now, it is like you are in court, and the only person allowed to make a case against you is the prosecutor, and he is allowed to say whatever he wants...in fact, he can lie with impunity. That is exactly what the Conservative movement has done in this country. They built a playing field where they are free to say anything in the name of free speech, and get away with the presentation of false information as being reliable enough to allow the listener to decide. Let's go back to the prosecutor. How bad a prosecutor would he have to be to lose any case before the court? There is no advocate for you that is telling your side of the story, there is no one there to say "I object" when the prosecutor lies, and you hear them call it fair and balanced justice. If you cannot see that decisions that are based on false information are usually poor decisions, you need look no further than the Iraq War. No WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, just mass distraction. Reinstate the fairness doctrine, and you'll see Fox News fall. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 11:47 AM
wial (426 posts)
54. worst person in the world
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and worst propaganda organ in the world
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 12:52 PM
Rex (34,650 posts)
56. And? Foxnews can hardly get which party someone belong to
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right onscreen! If it is something BAD...then the person usually gets a D by their name (even if it is wrong) and if it is GOOD...then the person gets a R by their name. It is sad that there are no laws against this kind of thing. Foxnews should be held accountable for lying to the public, but it is what they do and it seems they will continue to get away with it.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 01:43 PM
fascisthunter (28,608 posts)
57. I want the Mainstream Media to Answer WHY they are not covering this obvious
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violation of trust of Fox News viewers. Why is it they would ignore such a thing. I don't want others here trying to answer for them.. I want to see the media explain itself to the American people. This shit needs to end if we want to save our democracy... we are looking like the Soviet Union more and more and look who is leading the charge.. the right wing media, those who claim to hate totalitarian communists, etc. Bunch of lying sociopaths.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 02:26 PM
TownDrunk2 (63 posts)
58. No wonder "communism" isn't a viable manipulative tool for the fed government anymore nt
Response to kpete (Original post)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 03:08 PM
Old and In the Way (36,256 posts)
59. Fox News: Fairly Unbalanced.
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Misinforming the public is their mission statement.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 04:07 PM
underpants (105,621 posts)
60. Bolton needs to get a f'ing haircut
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ABC had to publicly apologize for Stossel twice. He is a joke.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 08:34 PM
joshcryer (39,749 posts)
66. Wow. Absolutely stunning. Good on that Vet.
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I know a lot of Vets feel this way about war, a huge number. Especially Vietnam Vets.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:29 PM
David West (101 posts)
68. Stossel responded to my video.
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I'm certainly glad I'm not the only one who remembers booing, because this video throws me off a bit. I'm definitely still right though that people did NOT applaud Bolton's answer. If anything the smattering of applause are for me trying to rebut Bolton or just people doing the typical clap
What you still don't see is the people in the back corner of the room where my seat was hugging me and shaking my hand and telling me Bolton can go, "Go F*** himself" as I'm on my way to my seat. Between that and the fact that I was practically seeing red listening to Bolton, I guess that is what is coloring my memory of the event. Still, pretty manipulative editing by Fox to make it look like that answer got applause. http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/blog/2012/02/27/unedited-students-liberty-video-0 |


