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Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:02 PM

Lavabit founder: 'My own tax dollars are being used to spy on me'

Lavabit founder: 'My own tax dollars are being used to spy on me'
Since shuttering his email service, which was used by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, Ladar Levison has been stuck in a Kafkaesque legal battle and that's about all he can say
Dominic Rushe * The Guardian * Thurs. Aug. 22, 2013

The Obama administration has created a surveillance state on a scale not seen since senator Joe McCarthy's infamous 1950s crackdown on suspected communists, according to the tech executive caught up in crossfire between the NSA and whistleblower Edward Snowden.

"We are entering a time of state-sponsored intrusion into our privacy that we haven't seen since the McCarthy era. And it's on a much broader scale," Ladar Levison, founder of Lavabit, told the Guardian. The email service was used by Snowden and is now at the center of a potentially historic legal battle over privacy rights in the digital age.

Levison closed down his service this month, posting a message about a government investigation that would force him to "become complicit in crimes against the American people" were he to stay in business. The 32-year-old is now stuck in a Kafkaesque universe where he is not allowed to talk about what is going on, nor is he allowed to talk about what he's not allowed to talk about without facing charges of contempt of court.

It appears that Levison who would not confirm this has received a national security letter (NSL), a legal attempt to force him to hand over any and all data his company has so that the US authorities can track Snowden and anyone he communicated with. The fact that he closed the service rather than comply may well have opened him up to other legal challenges about which he also can not comment.

MORE HERE: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/22/lavabit-founder-us-surveillance-snowden

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Reply Lavabit founder: 'My own tax dollars are being used to spy on me' (Original post)
99th_Monkey Aug 2013 OP
bemildred Aug 2013 #1
99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #3
snooper2 Aug 2013 #2
99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #5
bemildred Aug 2013 #7
think4yourself Aug 2013 #8
Pholus Aug 2013 #9
Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #4
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Wilms Aug 2013 #6
AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #10
bvar22 Aug 2013 #11
WillyT Aug 2013 #12

Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:09 PM

1. Yep, this, this is Kafka, the NSLs, that is Kafkaesque.

The state propaganda organs (The Mighty Wurlitzer), the "infiltration", the surveillance, and all these tax-exempt political propaganda catapulters, the consensus manufacturing, and the class system, that's Orwell.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:29 PM

3. Draconian Express: "are we there yet?"

I think we are, and then some.

Goddes help us.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:22 PM

2. hope the dude has a good lawyer, he is going to need it...

I wonder if they can get him with a tampering with evidence charge if he really not only shut down the server but purged contents after he received the warrant.

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:33 PM

5. Gag orders are evil

They can't even talk about what they can't talk about.

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:55 PM

7. A lot of people are going to be needing lawyers. nt

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:01 PM

8. Democracy Now

had him on recently and he's not even allowed to discuss some things with his lawyer.
How unAmerican is THAT?

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Response to think4yourself (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:05 PM

9. It's not for neoAmericans living under neoFeudalism.

It's just the new normal.

National Security Letters need to stop now. They might have served a useful purpose in the beginning but mission creep makes them inherently unjust.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:29 PM

4. Kick.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:21 PM

6. ^

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:10 PM

10. Other than violating the Fourth, Fifth, and First Amendments, are there any others?

 

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:17 PM

11. We are WAY beyond anything McCarthy could have fantasized about...

...in his wildest Police State Wet Dream.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:48 PM

12. K & R !!!


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