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Wed Aug 21, 2013, 10:48 PM

Liz Cheney Posts Bond on charge of lying on Fishing License Application


The Virginia Wyoming candidate for Senate paid $220 to the Ninth Circuit Court on the charge of making a false statement to obtain a fishing license.

A citation/complaint ticket in the court file states that Cheney “fail to meet residency requirements as required,” according to the ticket signed by Wyoming Game and Fish Jackson Supervisor Tim Fuchs.

The citation alleges the infraction took place on or about 9:18 a.m. Aug. 3, 2012 at West Bank Anglers near Teton Village…

Wyoming resident fishing and game licenses require the purchaser to sign a residency statement. It says “Under penalty of prosecution I swear that the information given by me above and below my signature is true and correct. I swear under penalty of prosecution that I am a Wyoming resident as defined in WS 23-1-102 (a)… and have domiciled in Wyoming for not less than one(1) year and have not claimed residence anywhere for any purpose during the one year immediately preceding the purchase of this license.”

She has said that she did not know one was required to live in Wyoming for the immediately previous 365 days to qualify as a resident.

So you can’t get a fishing license in a state you’ve barely lived in, but you can represent the people in that state in the U.S. Senate.


http://www.alan.com/2013/08/21/liz-cheney-posts-bond-on-charge-of-lying-on-fishing-license-application/

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samplegirl Aug 2013 OP
rdharma Aug 2013 #1
snappyturtle Aug 2013 #2
onehandle Aug 2013 #3
samplegirl Aug 2013 #5
KansDem Aug 2013 #35
madokie Aug 2013 #64
PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #4
rdharma Aug 2013 #10
PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #11
BainsBane Aug 2013 #12
PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #13
maddiemom Aug 2013 #24
MADem Aug 2013 #17
Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #58
gopiscrap Aug 2013 #6
samplegirl Aug 2013 #9
MADem Aug 2013 #18
Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #36
LearningCurve Aug 2013 #52
MADem Aug 2013 #61
totodeinhere Aug 2013 #28
rpannier Aug 2013 #57
spanone Aug 2013 #7
Politicalboi Aug 2013 #8
maindawg Aug 2013 #50
hrmjustin Aug 2013 #14
greiner3 Aug 2013 #15
dimbear Aug 2013 #16
maddiemom Aug 2013 #25
Myrina Aug 2013 #19
Berlum Aug 2013 #20
Nictuku Aug 2013 #21
Coyotl Aug 2013 #22
groundloop Aug 2013 #23
BlueMTexpat Aug 2013 #56
jmowreader Aug 2013 #60
Jenoch Aug 2013 #26
Sheepshank Aug 2013 #34
Jenoch Aug 2013 #37
hibbing Aug 2013 #27
JohnnyRingo Aug 2013 #29
postulater Aug 2013 #30
Joey Liberal Aug 2013 #31
dusty trails Aug 2013 #33
Nay Aug 2013 #47
Rozlee Aug 2013 #66
dusty trails Aug 2013 #32
Swede Atlanta Aug 2013 #38
hatrack Aug 2013 #41
Swede Atlanta Aug 2013 #48
maddiemom Aug 2013 #42
lastlib Aug 2013 #39
Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #40
UTUSN Aug 2013 #43
Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #45
UTUSN Aug 2013 #51
Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #55
SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2013 #44
yellowcanine Aug 2013 #46
NEOBuckeye Aug 2013 #49
Gus Lammas Aug 2013 #53
treestar Aug 2013 #54
Hulk Aug 2013 #59
Thor_MN Aug 2013 #62
Javaman Aug 2013 #63
Gumboot Aug 2013 #65

Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 10:49 PM

1. She's NOT a carpetbagger!

 

I jest!

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 10:55 PM

2. Couldn't happen to a nicer person.



Well, there's at least one Cheney not above the law. Maybe she
made the same 'mistake' in her candidacy? We can only
hope!

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 10:57 PM

3. Cheneys just can't resist lying and breaking the law. nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 11:03 PM

5. Just like her daddy who left Texas and moved to Wyoming in order to run.

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Response to samplegirl (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:21 PM

35. You know, that makes me wonder...

If Bush/Cheney knew they were getting the White House in 2000!

I mean, why go to all the rigmarole of establishing a resident status in another state if you didn't think you were going to "win?" Even if it meant stealing the election?

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Response to KansDem (Reply #35)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:12 AM

64. I think it is that for them to even be on the ticket they had to have residence in separate states

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 11:02 PM

4. Yup, just ask Hillary Clinton. n/t

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 11:33 PM

10. Ask Hillary what?

 

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Response to rdharma (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 11:56 PM

11. Whether you can represent people in a state you barely lived in. n/t

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 11:57 PM

12. Clinton didn't lie about it on a legal form

NYers knew who she was and where she had lived when they elected her. The two cases are not comparable.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:04 AM

13. My comment was in reference to the OP's...

"So you can’t get a fishing license in a state you’ve barely lived in, but you can represent the people in that state in the U.S. Senate."


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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #13)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 10:59 AM

24. My reaction exactly.

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:45 AM

17. You mean, like Bobby Kennedy before her?

NY doesn't have a problem with carpetbaggers. They never have, so your point is just not taken The candidates come in and "barely live," and the citizens make their choice as they see fit.

Nothing wrong with following the rules laid down by the state....the problem comes when a candidate LIES to make it appear that they've been there longer than they have.

I think you knew that, though...

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 10:33 PM

58. NY is a hell of a lot more international than Wyoming.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 11:08 PM

6. So do you think this will knock her out of the campaign?

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 11:11 PM

9. Can't she take the hint...

they don't want her there.

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Response to samplegirl (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:47 AM

18. Yep, something's fishy with Lizzie!

I'll bet she's so mad she wants to shoot that fishing license clerk in the face...

It's genetic, so I understand!

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Response to MADem (Reply #18)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:31 PM

36. Nah.

She'd rather snag him in the ass with the treble hooks on her Pikie Minnow

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Response to MADem (Reply #18)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 07:27 PM

52. Damn

 

You beat me to the pun. Then raised with a shot to the face.

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Response to LearningCurve (Reply #52)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:07 AM

61. Heh heh....

I think that bad apple didn't fall far from the tree at all!

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:06 PM

28. I doubt if this incident will have any effect one way or the other

but she was already considered a prohibitive underdog by most observers.

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 10:04 PM

57. She's behind as it is and was deemed unlikely to win

So it will likely have little effect
I thought when she announced that she was angling (no pun intended) for future elections

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 11:09 PM

7. you know papa's proud....

you know, the venal vice-president who told senator patrick leahy to go fuck himself...that classy guy.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 11:10 PM

8. Now she says the clerk didn't ask her

How long she's been living there. So ya see, it's that overpaid clerk that needs to be fired. He or she is lucky they are not facing the death penalty for embarrassing a Cheney. I'm sure her daddy will "fix" this for her, somehow.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 07:03 PM

50. So, you thing the drunken duck hunter will have the clerk....

maybe have an accident? That would look bad but I sure would not want to be that clerk who deliberately screwed up baby Cheney's fishin license.
she cant win what does she want? There is a plan. A plan to make some serious money. She must be a wedge to make sure some other candidate gets elected.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:06 AM

14. Well she is not off to a good start.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:16 AM

15. I fear;

Wyoming Game and Fish Jackson Supervisor Tim Fuchs may soon be out of a job and we need to warn him not to ride in small planes, or hunt with Dick!

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:30 AM

16. Perfect excuse. She doesn't know Wyoming law.

Great recommend for the job she wants. When did politicians lose the ability to be embarrassed?







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Response to dimbear (Reply #16)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 11:01 AM

25. If Liz were capable of being embarrassed, her first public utterings would have

been her last.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 10:10 AM

19. So then does that mean she also can't run for office there?

I hope?!

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 10:15 AM

20. But, but, but...she is entitled to at least 5 deferments from responsibility. She's a Republican.

What is sauce for the RepubliGander, is sauce for the RepubliGoose.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 10:16 AM

21. Wyoming is not in the 9th Circuit

I think the writer of the article got it wrong. It is the 9th District of Wyoming that serves the Tetons (not the 9th Circuit). Appeals of District Court rulings in the area would then go to the 10th Circuit court of appeals.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 10:16 AM

22. Like father, like daughter. Dick Cheney lied about his WY residency to run for VP!

Cheney was a resident of Texas, as was Bush, so they had to stall and fix that one to put him on the ticket.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 10:23 AM

23. Geez, I'd imagine she could easily afford a non-resident fishing license


My take on this is that she lied about residency to save a few dollars, because non-residents are charged a higher price for fishing licenses. She should have just paid the proper non-resident fee and saved all this trouble.

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Response to groundloop (Reply #23)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 08:02 PM

56. That seems to be the take

that some in WY have. It's too bad that they can't understand that failing to pay one's fair share is considered a virtue among the GOP.




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Response to groundloop (Reply #23)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:53 AM

60. She could have, but the difference between the two rates is pretty severe

I looked it up...a resident Wyoming fishing license costs $24, a nonresident one costs $97.

Let's be real, tho: does that woman look like she fishes? This looks like she's trying to establish her woman-of-the-people creds by going on photo-op fishing trips.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 11:27 AM

26. What I think what happened is that

she moved to Wyoming, the state her father represented in the U.S. House during her formative years, to run for the U.S. Senate. I suppose she figured that since she was living in Wyoming at the time she bought the fishing license, she should buy the resident license. She did not read the fishing regulations before making that purchase.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #26)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:58 PM

34. An attorney that doesn't read the document they are about to sign?

Last edited Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:01 PM - Edit history (1)

Liz misses the details...not good....regardless of the excuse. She tries to blame the $12/hr clerk for her not reading the declaration? Makes Liz come across as a biggest asshole of the day.

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #34)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:57 PM

37. Yeah, she should not have shifted blame.

All politicians should know that they should immediately admit fault in situations such as this one.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 11:49 AM

27. Is she going to hook someone in the face now?

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:17 PM

29. K&R

Sounds like somebody in Wyoming doesn't want her to play games with her residency. She has to choose just one state to live in, and I'll bet there are many who don't want that to be Wyoming. Apparently she doesn't think she stands a chance in Virginia politics.

I hope she doesn't try hanging her witch's hat in Ohio.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:53 PM

30. She should give back all the fish she caught illegally.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:02 PM

31. The female Darth Vader

She shouldn't be allowed to fish. She's a danger to all living things.....

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Response to Joey Liberal (Reply #31)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:52 PM

33. Cripes !!

Don't give her a shotgun

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Response to dusty trails (Reply #33)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 06:18 PM

47. She doesn't need one. When she goes fishing she'll use dynamite. nt

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Response to dusty trails (Reply #33)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 02:36 PM

66. She'll cast out her line and hook some poor guy's eyeball out.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:51 PM

32. You can't blame her

As a Republican, she didn't know there was anything wrong with lying.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:09 PM

38. I am born and raised in Wyoming...

 

So I have some credibility here...

First of all the fact that she, an attorney, did not know the requirements is absolutely no excuse.
Second, while Wyoming residents are generally fairly libertarian, I doubt the fact she is a lesbian will be well received. As a gay man I welcome her interest in politics but suggest this state may not be the most ideal
Third, she is behaving like a carpetbagger. If she cannot win in more populous states she carpetbags herself into Wyoming with which she has no "meaningful" ties solely for political purposes is a sham. She should be run out of town

Hopefully enough Wyoming residents, repukkkes and Democrats alike will recognize this and discard her.

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Response to Swede Atlanta (Reply #38)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:33 PM

41. I think it's her sister who's gay, not Liz

Mary, IIRC.

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Response to hatrack (Reply #41)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 06:24 PM

48. Thanks for the correction....

 

I still believe the idea of a carpetbagger is not going to go over well with most people in Wyoming.

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Response to Swede Atlanta (Reply #38)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:35 PM

42. The other Cheney daughter is the lesbian.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:07 PM

39. "So?"

IOKIYAGOPeee.

(Lyin' sack of prairie dog feces......!)

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:16 PM

40. Now, it she had to post a bond on every lie she's told in public

. . . since September 11, 2001, she'd be broke.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:37 PM

43. R#29 & K for, congrats on the 1300 views, 29 recs, & 42 replies compared to

my yesterday's 185 views, 0 recs, & 3 replies: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023507746 Tutor me!1

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #43)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 05:35 PM

45. Details count. It's Cheney, not "Chenee". nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #45)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 07:26 PM

51. This ain't the NYT. We have all sorts of DUisms here:

HUGH .... !1 ... Shirley you jest ... Olive Garden ... Tweety ... Shrub ... (et al.)

*********END of (non-exhaustive) DUisms list********

As for "CHEENEE," that is the native/correct pronunciation. I was watching Tweety several years ago when ex-Senator/Always-pain-in-the-neck Alan SIMPSON told Tweety that he/SIMPSON is a personal friend of CHEENEE's of most if not all of their lives and that CHEENEE is how the CHEENEE family pronounced it back when they really were legal residents in wherever the f*** they were from, and ever since then Tweety has been pronouncing it that way, and my adoption of it is just the sight-jarring way to ridicule/denigrate, despite that correct pronunciation is not really an act of ridicule/denigration.

But back to MY point: My peeve about posting things that sink immediately only to see the same item posted later to tons of success is something that happens daily on an internet board, and not unique to me although there is a tinge of taking it personally when it happens to one personally. It's a matter of one's putting in, say, 45 minutes of cutting/pasting, or worse/ORIGINALITY, editing, highlighting, sometimes adding graphics --- then seeing it sink only to see the topic posted way more claque-illy.

So, no, it's not a matter of the victim's being blamed, but thanks.

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #51)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 08:01 PM

55. Thanks for the background on the pronunciation. As to threads sinking ...

... there seems little cure for that except for trickery and outrageous exploitation of FUD: fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

The predominant use of trickery seems to be the deceptive title tactic. An example of course would be titling a thread something like "Liz Cheney (Chenee) is my friend" and then immediately below put in the text "NOT".

Predominant use of FUD is to post some over-the-top rant, like "The Manning verdict ends civilization now!".

Another tactic is to post an obscure title that makes it seem as if the reader would be very dull if they don't get the DU context for this topic and thus hook in readers who want to be part of the in / cool / hip crowd.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:42 PM

44. a chip off the old block is off to a great start.

If you're goal is to rack up as many crimes as possible while serving the "public".

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 05:51 PM

46. Wyoming takes its fishing regulations more seriously than its representation in the Senate.

This is as funny as shit. And the kind of thing which can sink a candidacy before it even gets started. When the people start laughing at you it is time to get out the toaster oven.

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 06:43 PM

49. The ends always justify the means for the Cheney family n/t

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 07:33 PM

53. What does Ms Vader wanna fish for?

 

Human souls would be my guess

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 07:51 PM

54. that's a long time to have to be there to qualify as a resident

booo to Liz though!

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:32 AM

59. Should water board her....

Then she won't ever do it again I'll bet? What do you think?

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:00 AM

62. Have to establish rapport with the people you need to vote for you...

Hunting license... Cheney, hunting...uh... maybe best to avoid... Fishing!!! Fishing is good, fill out the form, ignore the legal crap, I mean, does ANYONE read the legal crap? Only $24, cheap, establish bona fides with the local yokels, maybe even pose for some pictures for the campaign, can probably borrow a rod and reel from some idiot in a stream... See, She's just just like you!!!

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:07 AM

63. she can't even state the truth on a freaking fishing license!

don't worry the mouth breathing repukes will now line up in droves to vote for her and her "honesty".

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Response to samplegirl (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:15 PM

65. Nice FAIL, Liz!

She's even less qualified for office than Palin.




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