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Thu Jul 25, 2013, 12:44 PM

Why is the national media mostly doing a lousy job of the Filner story?

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I think it's intentional, and there is no way the National media has no clue who Bob Filner was while in Congress. This was a response to another thread, but I figured it deserved it's own.

First off, the story went international during the Gloria Alldred presser on Monday, when she announced the civil complaint against the city of San Diego, and Bob Filner. It's not just channel 12 Tijuana, televisa station, but also CBC Canada. They were both there. Televisa makes sense due to the years of work Filner had, decades, with Tijuana as part of the Border Region. Bob Filner even served during Clinton's years as some kind of presidential envoy, while in Congress, to help with NAFTA. Yup, he actually ran on that before the business community.

In the US the story is not fully registering nationally, and msnbc, the place for politics, is doing a lousy job on it's effects to the California party, but this is now international.

It's worst than that...Wiener really never had bills passed in Congress. Filner served in the Armed Services committee as chairman of Veterans Affairs,among other committees, and among other things he was the author of the GI bill for the 911 generation. In other words he was not a back bencher.

Anthony Weiner was loud while in Congress. Filner was part of the inside tract machine.

My opinion, it's not been reported that way by the NY-DC media because Filner could touch, and drag down, other powerful dems. Yup, he was a powerful So-Cal ally of among others Nancy Pelosi and even Stenny Hoyer. And while a progressive, a national defense hawk.

It speaks volumes as to how both stories are being covered, and it is not just the size of the markets. What Wiener has in common with Filner...both are considered progressives.


And if you are outraged over Wiener, you should be doubly so over Filner. The latter, just a matter of time for actual criminal charges.

(And I get not to chase this story today....Yee haw!!!! (He is supposed to show at a ground breaking ceremony...doubt it)

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Reply Why is the national media mostly doing a lousy job of the Filner story? (Original post)
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 OP
msongs Jul 2013 #1
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #2
Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #3
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #4
hrmjustin Jul 2013 #11
cali Jul 2013 #5
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #7
cali Jul 2013 #9
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #12
cali Jul 2013 #13
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #14
cali Jul 2013 #15
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #16
cali Jul 2013 #23
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #25
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #28
loli phabay Jul 2013 #31
dionysus Jul 2013 #20
cali Jul 2013 #24
dionysus Jul 2013 #29
cali Jul 2013 #33
dionysus Jul 2013 #42
cali Jul 2013 #44
DJ13 Jul 2013 #6
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #8
cali Jul 2013 #10
DJ13 Jul 2013 #18
cali Jul 2013 #21
MindPilot Jul 2013 #17
Iggo Jul 2013 #19
Fumesucker Jul 2013 #22
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #26
pintobean Jul 2013 #27
cali Jul 2013 #34
DevonRex Jul 2013 #35
Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #30
loli phabay Jul 2013 #32
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #36
tammywammy Jul 2013 #43
sufrommich Jul 2013 #37
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #38
sufrommich Jul 2013 #39
cali Jul 2013 #40
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #41

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:21 PM

1. because its really only a local story of interest to the san diego area? nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:22 PM

2. Then explain why CBC did a far better job

That be Canadian news...then again they did not pretend not to know who Filner is.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:24 PM

3. because Canada is trying to distract from their oil tanker train derailment disaster and

 

their politicians are too clean and boring to have sex scandals.

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Response to Pretzel_Warrior (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:26 PM

4. Wrong, nice try though

One word. NAFTA

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Response to Pretzel_Warrior (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:39 PM

11. Harper is not all that clean.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:26 PM

5. This is largely a local story.

Your claims that Filner was the consummate insider and close ally of Pelosi and Hoyer, don't hold up and you provide no evidence for those claims.

How is Filner impacting the CA Dem party? Please provide links to sources and stories. Otherwise it's just a claim with no evidence.

Filner may not have been a back bencher but he wasn't a consequential figure or in the House leadership at any time. He wasn't some powerful congressman. Hell, he had less power than my rep who wasn't even elected until 2006 and did make it into the House Leadership. And Welch is from Vermont not CA.

http://welch.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1316:welch-appointed-to-house-leadership-team&catid=39:2011-press-releases

I'm not sure what you think the inside track machine is, but Filner was not an important figure in Congress or in D.C.

It's not about outrage, it's about the obvious reasons why Weiner really is an international above the fold story and Filner isn't.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/13/bob-filner-scandal_n_3591054.html

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Response to cali (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:32 PM

7. I will tell you how it is impacting

Don't expect HuffPo to cover it...all are trying to minimize it.

The party is getting torn apart between the progressives and the DLC types...and the elites are getting torn apart from the base.

Long term alliances are getting shattered.

That is what the media (I guess it is, I am) is truly not telling you.

I give the local republicans even odds of doing well in 2014, they should do well, but they are highly dysfunctional. So that is the bright side.

This Filner kerfunkle has risen to the regional central committee where divisions are spreading shard like.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:35 PM

9. provide evidence. you make claims, back it up

you never do and it's not a good trait for a reporter- though I think it's not accurate for you to make that claim. it's misleading. You write for an online outlet that isn't even close to being a news organization. It's my understanding that just about anyone can write for it. Do you have press credentials?

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Response to cali (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:40 PM

12. Give me a sec...you doubt they are meeting...typical...just my beat.

Updated: Jul 25, 2013 8:01 AM PDT


SAN DIEGO (CNS) - A day after two more women accused him of sexual harassment, the San Diego County Democratic Party Thursday will meet for the second time to work out its stance on the political future of embattled San Diego Mayor Bob Filner.

Party committee members met last Thursday for more than three hours but failed to reach a consensus on whether to support the 70-year-old Filner, whose resignation is being clamored for by several local office holders and civic leaders, both Democrat and Republican.

In a statement released after last week's meeting, committee chairwoman Francine Busby said that, although committee members were divided, there would be grounds for Filner's resignation if the sexual harassment allegations turn out to be true.


http://www.cbs8.com/story/22930341/sd-democratic-party-to-meet-in-wake-of-third-filner-accuser



Link in a sec, the IPad is playing games..but serious this is my fracking beat...among others...city hall...as we say, both fires and city hall are full of hot air and just as destructive

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:43 PM

13. yep. local that's a local story about the SD Dem Committee

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Response to cali (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:44 PM

14. You think whatever you want to think.

Serious.

Just my beat and you said it had no effect on the party. It has, it will...have a good day.

Me, come 2014...I got no clue...I might just sit it out

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:53 PM

15. No, i did not say that. I was referring to the State Party and the national party

you've made breathless claims about how this could impact on members of Congress, how he some big inside "tract" player and how it could even effect the Clintons.

None of that is true. I provide links to sources. You don't. I care about facts and you play fast and loose with them. That's always been my problem with your posts and you do it with abandon.

I think you should put me back on "iggypoo" or whatever you call it, because I just can't take seeing made up stuff passed off as fact and I will call it out.

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Response to cali (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:54 PM

16. It was a matter of discussion on Saturday in Los Angeles

Sorry if you cannot accept this.

Have an excellent day

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #16)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:50 PM

23. You need to stop making shit up. It's WRONG to do so.

like Filner who you know oh so well was chair of Armed Services. Yup, that's what YOU said. WRONG.

Like Filner is "the consummate insider" WRONG again. BACKBENCHER and I provided you with links and sources.

Like Filner was a close ally of Pelosi and Hoyer. WRONG.

Like how his scandal is important on international level WRONG.

Ever since I first encountered you here you've made crap up and I just can't sit back and not call you on it. Maybe that's a failing of mine, but now that you're running around claiming to be press, it's even more egregious.

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Response to cali (Reply #23)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:57 PM

25. So there was not a meeting on Saturday

Okie dokie.

What else did not happen on Saturday? I know, I did not meet Lewis either at Comicon, in fact Comicon never happened...the chariot fire, that never happened either...if you say it did not happen, it didn't.

My editor was there on Saturday on an unrelated matter. But I guess you know better from Vermont than editor physically on location.

You are getting played, congrats.

These editorial decisions are not accidental.

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Response to cali (Reply #23)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 03:20 PM

28. By the way, welcome back to ignore with your friends

Buy bye, will not make that mistake again.

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Response to cali (Reply #23)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:01 PM

31. though i often disagree with you, i say bravo on the truth of these posts

 

Normal scheduling will now resume.

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Response to cali (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:33 PM

20. yes, it's called "making shit up"

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Response to dionysus (Reply #20)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:51 PM

24. It drives me nuts. It's just so wrong.

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Response to cali (Reply #24)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 03:28 PM

29. what's worse is there's plenty of people buying what's being peddled...

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Response to dionysus (Reply #29)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:04 PM

33. I don't get it. It's so easy to check out what someone claims

and it's really disgusting that anyone claiming to be be press, would post so much flat out misinformation and prevarication.

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Response to cali (Reply #33)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:42 PM

42. a lot of people do, and it ends up like this;

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Response to dionysus (Reply #42)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:50 PM

44. priceless.

thanks for that. I can't stop laughing.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:27 PM

6. The Dem PTB want Weiner out

The MSM follows along like the lap dogs they've become and cover a non story wall to wall 24/7.

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Response to DJ13 (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:32 PM

8. That is part of it, and DU follows along

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Response to DJ13 (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:38 PM

10. oh codswallop. Until Weiner sent pics of his cock and salacious texts

the dem party supported him. He's never been a tenth as liberal as my rep who was made part of the House leadership or a tenth as effective. No one is trying to get him out. Hell, the dem party supports my socialist senator.

He lived as a showboater in the House and he's meeting a fitting end.

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Response to cali (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:26 PM

18. It doesnt matter if Joe Blow is more liberal than he is

He's way too liberal to run the city with Wall St in it.

He might get ideas like he's in charge or something.

Cant have that.



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Response to DJ13 (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:46 PM

21. bullshit. he was a go along get along not averse to corporate playing along

kind of guy.

ack.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:07 PM

17. Rachel seems to think it's a big deal.

At least a big enough deal to have done two segments on Filner so far this week.

And yes, this is significant; the initial request to step down came from within the party, solid supporters basically saying "do the right thing...please!"

But Filner said no, and now we are probably going to see some very public charges, and some serious damage to an already very tenuous blue majority. It is the kind of thing that just fulfills the stereotype for republicans, and makes Dems just say "screw it".

And it is also a political blacklight, starkly segregating the DLC party loyalists from the actual progressives.

Damn, I wish this train wreck wasn't happening!

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:26 PM

19. Why is the national media mostly doing a lousy job?

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Response to Iggo (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:49 PM

22. That was my thought too

It's been a long time since the national media did a decent job of covering much of anything at all.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:58 PM

26. When ou tell them why they get up in arms

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 03:17 PM

27. At least they know the difference

between a lawsuit and criminal charges. Which is more than we can say about East County Magazine's reporters and editors.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023322854
It has been corrected on DU and at ECM. The note about the needed correction in the comments at the ECM has been deleted, so it never happened.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #27)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:05 PM

34. East County Magazine is about as reliable as worldnut daily

crap and nothing but.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #27)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:09 PM

35. Oh my God. They took out having to correct saying "Charges Filed"???

That's bad journalism.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:00 PM

30. It's a local story. So is the Weiner story, except his locale is the media center of the universe.

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #30)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:03 PM

32. yup pretty much sums it up.

 

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #30)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:10 PM

36. That is part of it

But not the full explanation.

As I said in the OP...televisa made sense, border town, San Diego affects Tijuana. CBC did not by that logic

Regardless, my view is that the media is lazy, but also protective of the hands that feed it. We see that here locally where editors are afraid of speaking bad words of people in power...so to keep bridges....at times turn the other way.

In this case I think the national media is afraid of possible connections to the hill. So they control the story and do a lousy job.

I mean, Lawrence O'Donnel knows Filner from his years in the hill. I get it people here don't know. He is also a Cali resident. So there is far more to that decision. And Weiner is easy too...just drive down the office.

For the sake of argument, if this exploded under the previous mayor, you'd be very correct, as in the previous mayor being under that cloud. And for the record the media at national level covered the financial problems in 2002-3 far more closely and called San Diego, Enron by the Sea.

It actually reminds me of Occupy and how it was, or was not, covered.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #36)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:46 PM

43. O'Donnell worked in the Senate not the House.

Why do you assume they knew each other? Do you have a link showing that O'Donnell and Filmed knew each other?

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:12 PM

37. It's not a national story. How in the world could this

pervert's personal story drag down other politicos?

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #37)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:15 PM

38. 20 years in Congress and it is now extended to congressional staffers during his career.

As I told the person above. Jerry Sanders, you'd be very correct, and since he was a Republican, he would be crucified here.

I am sorry the media is doing a lousy job, they are also doing what they do. Editorial decision is not accidental.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #38)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:21 PM

39. So what? You said it had the potential to drag down

"powerful dems",his staffers (who probably covered for him) aren't powerful dems. Why bring Pelosi and Hoyer into this guys personal mess,it's got nothing to do with them?

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #39)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:23 PM

40. don't dare to challenge the great reporter. You'll get put on "iggypoo"

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #39)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:27 PM

41. I am talking of alliances

I know it is not a coincidence what Pelosi released today on both men.

But if you think otherwise, it's ok too. I will stand by what I said, lack of coverage is an editorial decision going further than just small town. If this was. Jerry Sanders you'd be correct.

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