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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:09 PM

COPS ARE PIGS!! This has got to stop. I hope innocent woman sues them


http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20130718/COLUMNIST/130719612

This is just getting nuts.
Lyons: Police raid felt like home invasion

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Reply COPS ARE PIGS!! This has got to stop. I hope innocent woman sues them (Original post)
trueblue2007 Jul 2013 OP
ceonupe Jul 2013 #1
Orrex Jul 2013 #2
ceonupe Jul 2013 #3
NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #15
d_r Jul 2013 #4
gulliver Jul 2013 #5
Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #19
gulliver Jul 2013 #22
leftyohiolib Jul 2013 #6
Orrex Jul 2013 #11
leftyohiolib Jul 2013 #12
Orrex Jul 2013 #14
leftyohiolib Jul 2013 #16
Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #20
tritsofme Jul 2013 #7
backscatter712 Jul 2013 #8
tritsofme Jul 2013 #9
WinkyDink Jul 2013 #25
tritsofme Jul 2013 #26
nessa Jul 2013 #10
NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #13
nessa Jul 2013 #23
RBInMaine Jul 2013 #17
The Straight Story Jul 2013 #18
Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #21
RBInMaine Jul 2013 #28
WinkyDink Jul 2013 #24
Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #27

Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:13 PM

1. When white people go thru this its the news

 

When black people go they this its just the cost of keeping the privileged safe.

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Response to ceonupe (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:38 PM

2. When black people go through this, they get shot

I can't even imagine a scenario in which a black person can point a gun at an armored cop and not wind up dead, even if the victim has good reason to doubt that the intruder is a cop.

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Response to ceonupe (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 03:07 PM

15. Clear cut murder on that video!

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:47 PM

4. yeah be thankful

just because police bust in to your home without a warrant you are going to get all upset? wtf do you think you are?

Goldsberry wasn't arrested or shot despite pointing a gun at a cop, so Wiggins said, “She sure shouldn't be going to the press.”

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:49 PM

5. No they aren't.

FTP threads suck.

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Response to gulliver (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 03:50 PM

19. Thuggish, hyper-aggressive cops suck. There are real issues here.

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #19)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 03:58 PM

22. People who call cops "pigs" need to chill out.

The world is a big place, and there is a lot of time. If there is a thuggish, hyper-aggressive cop, call and complain about him or her. Call him or her a pig, and most people will think you are the pig. Too much emoting, not enough thinking through stunts the mind.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:50 PM

6. it'd be a different story if the rapist they were looking for was in there and holding them hostage

 

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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #6)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:56 PM

11. I doubt that she'd have been washing dishes in that case

You don't hear many stories about hostage-taking rapists who demand that their victims keep a tidy kitchen.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 03:01 PM

12. true except for the one's who say the cops are here act naturally or i'll kill you -

 

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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #12)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 03:04 PM

14. Or maybe the cops told her to act naturally so that she'd confuse her assailant

Hell, maybe they told her to go to the press with a crazy story to make it seem like they'd already caught the rapist, just so that they could draw out the real rapist.


How far are you willing to go with this speculation?

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Response to Orrex (Reply #14)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 03:29 PM

16. im not speculating im responding 2 your statement and criminals tell victims to act naturally around

 

cops im also not interested in monday morning quarterbacking this situation nor am i interested in any sort of verbal sparring excpt to say that it would be a different story if the rapist were there

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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #16)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 03:52 PM

20. Except the accused rapist wasn't there, and there was no good reason to think he was.

Other than that, yeah.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:53 PM

7. Pigs? Name calling? What are you, 12?

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:54 PM

8. Police officers are such delicate flowers. We wouldn't want to hurt their feelings... n/t

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #8)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:55 PM

9. If you think that sort of rhetoric enhances your argument, please don't let me stop you.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 04:01 PM

25. Did you read the story?

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #25)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 04:06 PM

26. Yes, it sounds outrageous.

It doesn't stop you from reacting like an adult.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:55 PM

10. These aren't just any cops, these are U.S. Marshals.

I hope she sues too, but I really doubt she would win.

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Response to nessa (Reply #10)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 03:04 PM

13. How would she not?

These things are almost always settled with money getting paid out.

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #13)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 03:59 PM

23. She should win, but just doing some googling around...

There are a couple other cases like this unsettled in the works.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/family-sues-feds-agents-raid-prompted-mistaken-identity-article-1.359868
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/South-Florida-Woman-Shot-5-Times-by-US-Marshals-Sues-Them-For-10-Million-170794526.html

I couldn't find any suits the U.S. Marshals lost, except a discrimination suit, which is a different thing altogether.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 03:40 PM

17. ANY profiling is WRONG, and to lump all cops in one group is DUMB and DISCRIMINATORY. SHAME ON YOU!

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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #17)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 03:43 PM

18. Well, it is DU. All cops, christians, and gun owners are the same

We judge the many by the few (but only in those cases is it OK)

I was on the jury and voted to leave this OP because it is no different than what I hear day in and out against other groups.

Sadly, do the same for certain other groups and folks get upset then. Funny how we abandon our principles the second we can 'profit' from them.

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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #17)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 03:56 PM

21. Blanket generalizations are silly, but we have a serious problem with policing in this country.

I could post a story like this just about every day if I wanted to.

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #21)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 07:05 PM

28. Hogwash. There are hundreds of thousands of cops who handle millions of tough situations day in and

out. Most, as with people in all professions, do their jobs well.

If I wanted I could say we have a "serious" problem with doctoring, and store clerking, and business managing, and on and on and on
as in every profession there are a few "bad apples" and whatever kind of mistakes or unfortunate situations or whatever.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 04:00 PM

24. The thug STILL doesn't get it. THERE IS SOMETHING RADICALLY WRONG WITH TOO

MANY LEO'S.

And I think it all began when departments started dressing everyone in S.W.A.T. outfits.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 04:33 PM

27. Personally speaking

I think more that a few LEOs watch a bit too much TV.
Why do people who arrive in overwhelming numbers; with a massive advantage in weapons; protective equipment, transportation, communication, intelligence, planning, and surprise; have to spray a room with heavy firepower? Who do you think you face?
Is it possible that you might be the cause of the step up in the perceived level of criminal resistance?
Remember it's "all defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law". The people on the other side of strange doors aren't even defendants yet. Do not overwhelming suppress Resistance until actual resistance is met.

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