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Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:25 AM

Juror B37...

Oh. My. Gawd.

Apparently, when her creator was busy handing out critical thinking skills, this woman was probably having her nails done.

Totally, in the bag for Z.

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Reply Juror B37... (Original post)
MrScorpio Jul 2013 OP
Skittles Jul 2013 #1
Pelican Jul 2013 #2
Tx4obama Jul 2013 #3
Pelican Jul 2013 #9
Tx4obama Jul 2013 #13
Skittles Jul 2013 #21
Scuba Jul 2013 #43
alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #53
TheDebbieDee Jul 2013 #38
Pelican Jul 2013 #39
TheDebbieDee Jul 2013 #41
Pelican Jul 2013 #98
BellaKos Jul 2013 #70
olddots Jul 2013 #85
jessie04 Jul 2013 #42
ceonupe Jul 2013 #52
KamaAina Jul 2013 #83
Skittles Jul 2013 #7
Pelican Jul 2013 #16
Skittles Jul 2013 #18
Pelican Jul 2013 #19
Skittles Jul 2013 #20
HangOnKids Jul 2013 #86
Anansi1171 Jul 2013 #44
October Jul 2013 #58
Pelican Jul 2013 #82
October Jul 2013 #92
HockeyMom Jul 2013 #65
HiPointDem Jul 2013 #22
annabanana Jul 2013 #48
Hoyt Jul 2013 #64
Skittles Jul 2013 #87
HangOnKids Jul 2013 #88
quakerboy Jul 2013 #29
October Jul 2013 #59
RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #62
hrmjustin Jul 2013 #89
noiretextatique Jul 2013 #93
MrScorpio Jul 2013 #5
Skittles Jul 2013 #8
MrScorpio Jul 2013 #14
Anansi1171 Jul 2013 #45
JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #54
Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #90
FarPoint Jul 2013 #23
Skittles Jul 2013 #24
FarPoint Jul 2013 #26
Skittles Jul 2013 #27
FarPoint Jul 2013 #32
JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #77
JoeyT Jul 2013 #34
Iggo Jul 2013 #68
Mariana Jul 2013 #84
Marrah_G Jul 2013 #81
quakerboy Jul 2013 #30
davidpdx Jul 2013 #49
JI7 Jul 2013 #4
MrScorpio Jul 2013 #6
Skittles Jul 2013 #10
JI7 Jul 2013 #11
uponit7771 Jul 2013 #73
MrScorpio Jul 2013 #12
Skittles Jul 2013 #28
Chico Man Jul 2013 #40
azmom Jul 2013 #80
dkf Jul 2013 #15
MrScorpio Jul 2013 #17
dkf Jul 2013 #25
Tunkamerica Jul 2013 #31
JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #33
dkf Jul 2013 #35
JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #36
dkf Jul 2013 #37
Anansi1171 Jul 2013 #46
dkf Jul 2013 #47
JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #72
Ikonoklast Jul 2013 #51
JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #55
noiretextatique Jul 2013 #96
kickitup Jul 2013 #63
uponit7771 Jul 2013 #75
noiretextatique Jul 2013 #95
Iggo Jul 2013 #69
noiretextatique Jul 2013 #94
BellaKos Jul 2013 #71
noiretextatique Jul 2013 #97
kathysart_decoration Jul 2013 #50
madaboutharry Jul 2013 #57
onlyadream Jul 2013 #66
Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #56
Turbineguy Jul 2013 #60
chelsea0011 Jul 2013 #61
fadedrose Jul 2013 #67
Myrina Jul 2013 #74
fadedrose Jul 2013 #78
TheLion Jul 2013 #76
Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #91
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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:42 AM

1. she's disgusting

her ignorance, her racism, her complete lack of respect for Trayvon and his friends and loved ones

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Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:43 AM

2. Why is she a racist?

 

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Response to Pelican (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:47 AM

3. VIDEO of her interview on CNN below




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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:54 AM

9. I saw it...

 

I didn't hear anything racist from her.

Which is why I was looking for examples...

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Response to Pelican (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:59 AM

13. One example...


When Anderson Cooper asked Juror B-37 about Jeantel saying Trayvon said the 'cracker' phrase (I can't remember the whole phrase)

Juror B-37 said she didn't think that was a racist remark but that "... that is how THOSE people live ... "

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:26 AM

21. aw Tx4obama, that one is WAY too dim to understand that

it is clear as day to us but to him, "THOSE PEOPLE" could mean, you know, ANYONE

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:54 AM

43. Don't feed the trolls.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:18 AM

53. Don't play with trash

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Response to Pelican (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:33 AM

38. You know, just because someone doesn't go around tossing out the n-word

doesn't mean that they are fair-minded individuals.......

I'm an African-American and I am long past needing a person to admit that they are a racist to know that they are, in fact, a racist.

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Response to TheDebbieDee (Reply #38)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:36 AM

39. That's fine...

 

... but you still need some proof in statement or act don't you? All I asked for was what made some posters claim that this woman is a racist ( or waiting for her reward from her white supremacist masters, as seen in another thread)

The best examples so far are the use of the words "those people" and a general attitude of perceived superiority.

Or is it just a "they are if I say they are" kind of thing?

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Response to Pelican (Reply #39)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:48 AM

41. I don't have to prove to you that this juror is a racist. Who are you? What could you do

about it if I could prove this to you?

This is how institutional racism that is prevalent in this country has been swept under the rug for so long - because people get caught up trying to prove to YOUR satisfaction that racism exists!

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Response to TheDebbieDee (Reply #41)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:01 PM

98. This is why legitimate racist actions and people get away with things....

 

The populace as a whole has become desensitized to claims of racism because when we ask for the examples we get things like

"I don't have to prove it to you" " I know it when I see it" etc.. etc..

The boy who cried wolf ring a bell?

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Response to Pelican (Reply #39)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:15 AM

70. Pelican, it's like porn.

You know it when you see it.
Trust me. I'm the whitest person on earth (seriously), but I can detect racism when I see it. It's about code words, attitudes, perspectives, ignorance, lack of empathy, lack of knowledge, and a certain kind of arrogance.

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Response to Pelican (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:26 PM

85. and are you working without a net ?

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:50 AM

42. This is one dumb person.

 

EVERY view she has gives the benefit to GZ.

Is there something in the water that leads to Dumb juries in FLA ?

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Response to jessie04 (Reply #42)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:17 AM

52. Maybe fl law

 

Maybe fl law

Looking at the jury instructions and the law I don't see why people expected different verdict unless they wanted the jury to ignore the law.


But when u have people like many of the hosts on MSNBC that let mike Bloomberg come on unchallenged about legal policies like stop and frisk and how those polices help justify civilian racial profiling.

Chris Hayes finally connected the dots last night but I doubt anyone on the network challenges Bloomberg on it in person during his soft pitch interviews

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Response to ceonupe (Reply #52)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:58 PM

83. You might want to take a closer look at those jury instructions

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alafair-burke/george-zimmerman-jury-instructions_b_3596685.html

Because jury deliberations are secret, and no jurors (as of this writing) have spoken publicly about deliberations, it is impossible to know the basis for the jury's acquittal. But let me explain why the verdict might have boiled down to jury instructions.

The state asked the court to instruct the jury not only about the justification of self-defense, which favored Zimmerman in the ways described above, but also about its initial aggressor limitation. (View the state's argument here, beginning at 3:00.) According to the state, the jury might have concluded that Zimmerman provoked any physical response from Martin by following him. If a jury could reasonably find an instruction applicable, the instruction should be given.

The defense objected to the initial aggressor instruction. (See the defense argument here.) As a factual matter, the defense argued that no evidence indicated that Zimmerman physically initiated the confrontation. As a legal matter, the defense relied on Gibbs v. State, a 2001 decision from the Fourth Division of the Florida Court of Appeals, which held that a defendant loses the right to self-defense as an initial aggressor only if he provokes the victim's use of force through either force or "threat of force."

After Judge Nelson indicated that she understood the arguments on both sides, defense attorney Don West interjected, "Well, let me point out, as a matter of law, following someone on foot or by car is not against the law.... That cannot be considered provocation under the law... Force means physical force or the threat of physical force...." In conclusion, he emphasized, "It would be ERROR, and frankly, promoting miscarriage of justice, if the state were allowed to argue that to the jury."

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Response to Pelican (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:53 AM

7. do you even care?

I suspect you are just like her

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Response to Skittles (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:06 AM

16. So nothing specific?

 

Just general angst at the decision she made and thus she is a racist?

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Response to Pelican (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:14 AM

18. you're not seeing what you don't want to see

her entire attitude is condescending, her sucking up to "Georgie", telling us about his great heart when the gutless coward never even testified, claiming Trayvon was out late and acting "strange",her approval of Zimmerman's actions to the point she'd STILL like him as neighborhood watch person (he learned his lesson murdering an innocent teenager, don'tcha know), her willlingness to profit from a dead teenager - she's DISGUSTING

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Response to Skittles (Reply #18)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:16 AM

19. The closest thing in your own post...

 

... to racism is a "condescending attitude."

Why not just be honest and say that you don't like her because she made a decision you disagree with?

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Response to Pelican (Reply #19)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:24 AM

20. LOL YOU JUST.DON'T.GET.IT.

go back to shooting fireworks

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Response to Skittles (Reply #20)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:29 PM

86. A quick search tells you everything you need to know Skittles

 

Thanks for being the voice of compassionate reason here

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Response to Pelican (Reply #19)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:54 AM

44. I don't like he because she is a bigot.-NT

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Response to Pelican (Reply #19)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:27 AM

58. Um, that's what racism is... it's a BELIEF that one's own race is superior...

It's not about slurs or language -- it is about the BELIEF that your own race is superior. And yes, it is revealed through one's thoughts, comments, attitude.

YOU are the one that doesn't understand the meaning of racism.

rac·ism
noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

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Response to October (Reply #58)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:53 PM

82. Deep deep thoughts...

 

Now show where that exists in the interview.

I'm not saying it isn't there, it just hasn't been articulated yet.

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Response to Pelican (Reply #82)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:09 PM

92. You're just being rude and purposefully obtuse...

Do some reading on the subject if you cannot figure it out on your own. Otherwise, stop being such a pest on the thread. If you need the attention, start your own thread.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/07/16/2306901/7-mind-blowing-moments-from-zimmerman-juror-b37s-first-interview/

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Response to Skittles (Reply #18)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:05 AM

65. 7PM is out late for a 17 year old?

What planet does she live on?

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Response to Pelican (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:26 AM

22. why are you & your little buddies here?

 

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Response to Pelican (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:07 AM

48. That blond girl on Big Brother isn't racist either,

right?

A fish is the last to discover water

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Response to Pelican (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:50 AM

64. To be trite - If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. . . . . .

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #64)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:35 PM

87. it's a gun humping racist troll?

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Response to Skittles (Reply #87)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:43 PM

88. LOL!!!!!

 

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Response to Pelican (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:48 AM

29. An interesting question

Why is anyone racist? I suspect upbringing often has a lot to do with it. Maybe its just ill founded poorly examined assumptions about other people that have never really been challenged in her life.

Or maybe sometimes also a form of mental illness which we may someday find a cure for.

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Response to quakerboy (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:30 AM

59. As I understand it...

...for some, their skin color and perceived superiority is all they have to be proud of in this world, and that is what gives rise to a lot of racism.



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Response to Pelican (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:43 AM

62. Listen to her talk about Rachel and 'those people'

She couldn't have made it any more obvious without stating it outright.

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Response to Pelican (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:02 PM

89. I don't know here views on race but she showed no sympathy for Trayvon.

Her first reaction was to make money off of his death. With her it was always poor George.

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Response to Pelican (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 12:00 PM

93. she probably learned it from her family and community

like most racists.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:50 AM

5. It was her condescending attitude that got me

"Ooh, all of that icky blackness. Poor George, the world was out to get him."

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:54 AM

8. I'm simply appalled at how OVERT she is

you know? she's not really even trying to hide her distaste for "those people"

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Response to Skittles (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:02 AM

14. The magic of being both white and racist in this country...

Is just the simple matter that it allows people like that to deny that it (racism) even exists.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:55 AM

45. Hence, Pelican!-Nt

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Response to Anansi1171 (Reply #45)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:19 AM

54. +1

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:04 PM

90. +1

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Response to Skittles (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:26 AM

23. Unfortunately...

there are soooo many B-37's out there. ....Michelle Bachman types). I tend to sense this jury was a plant...if not, the prosecution may of been following orders and this was part of the recipe.

I remain devastated.

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:28 AM

24. let me ask you

the B-37's - do they KNOW they are racist?

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Response to Skittles (Reply #24)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:35 AM

26. I don't think they care...

They live in a closed subculture where they feel entitiled. If someone tells them or hints that they are racist, they rationalize profusely then switch the focus onto the accuser. I can't think of any good examples at the moment, I just woke up....

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #26)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:37 AM

27. look further up in this thread

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Response to Skittles (Reply #27)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:57 AM

32. Got it...

I see bird seeds scattered about..Oh....yea, they do know...

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #26)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 10:08 AM

77. As was done

On this sub-thread!

If someone tells them or hints that they are racist, they rationalize profusely then switch the focus onto the accuser

I think gently pointing out to them that their passive aggresive nonsense isn't hiding anything is the best way to go. Especially with the "I had a black friend once" types.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #24)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:08 AM

34. None of the ones I know think they are.

They've vaguely latched onto the idea that it's bad to be racist, but not why it's bad to be racist or how not to be a racist. So they've developed massive systems of justifications for their racism that they pretend make it not really racism at all.

Usually it just pisses them off when you tell them they're a racist. Then they whine about how oppressed they are.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #24)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:38 AM

68. Let me answer.

No. They don't.

My own mother is one of them. She has four half-brown children (all between 45 and 53 nowadays). And still she dances the Those People Two-Step on a daily basis. Claims she's "jut being honest." As far as she's concerned, her kids are white, right up until she needs to show how not-a-racist she is. Then we're magically half-Mexican again. It's really amazing to behold.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #68)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:22 PM

84. Yes, that's how it goes.

They're not racist in their own minds, it's never racism, it's "honesty" or "reality" or "just the truth" or some such bullshit.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #24)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:50 PM

81. She probably doesn't think she is

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:51 AM

30. I kinda get the impression that they really should have

gone for a change of venue. It sure seems like the police, the DA, the defense, the judge, and the Jury were all on the same page, and that page had very little to do with anything that may have actually happened.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:09 AM

49. Those are the worst kind

My mom works with people like that. I grew up in a rural part of the state. The first town we lived in is now actually fairly big, the second is still small and that's where I went to school. Mom lives and works in the bigger town, but still lots of them rednecks. Then again, she chooses to continue to live there. I'll never live there again.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:49 AM

4. and she thinks she is above Rachel Jeantel

she is actually very much like zimmerman. they both looked at the other person and saw in them what they themselves are.

zimmerman who has a history of being a violent thug looked at trayvon and viewed him as up to no good.

this fucking dumbass juror saw rachel and saw her as not being educated and below the level of others.

watch the rachel jeantel interview with piers morgan and then watch the juror interview with anderson cooper. and then tell me who is more educated and which one is a fucking dumbass.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:52 AM

6. That juror was as clueless as fuck.

Obviously a product of her culturally sterile environment.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:56 AM

10. check Pelican in the posts above

he is MYSTIFIED that we can detect racism!!!

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Response to Skittles (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:58 AM

11. racists like the juror usually don't think they are

and don't see it in others. or don't want to.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #11)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:52 AM

73. +1

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Response to Skittles (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:58 AM

12. That doesn't surprise me

People simply won't see what they don't want to see.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:39 AM

28. I live in a culturally diverse apartment complex!

it certainly does make a difference

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Response to Skittles (Reply #28)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:39 AM

40. Wow

Seriously? Your apartment complex?

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:48 PM

80. She seemed very ignorant

to me. Did you catch the part where she said if Trayvon had been white, spanish, or asian...... Spanish not Hispanic or Latino. She is clueless.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:03 AM

15. Is it really okay now to call any male the n word as long as it ends in an "a"?

 

I have to admit she turned around a lot of what I've been told I need to be sensitive to. Or is that only ok for black people?

And cracka is no longer for whites but law enforcement types?

Is that nationwide or just her friends?

I don't use either of those words.

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Response to dkf (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:10 AM

17. I take it that that sort of language shocks you

I thought her explanation was quite clear.

I understood what she was talking about and it didn't appall me.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #17)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:34 AM

25. So I can use that word if I end it with an "a"?

 

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Response to dkf (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:56 AM

31. do it if you want.

let the chips fall where they will.

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Response to dkf (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:58 AM

33. Why is it important

For you to say it either way? Do you feel discriminated against? I have no problem with you saying it. Or writing it. Go right ahead.

It sticks in your craw that much - let one loose today and tell me if you feel less oppressed.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #33)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:08 AM

35. Honestly it does tick me off that I am supposed to be sensitive while others throw it around.

 

But it's such a crass word I doubt I will find a use for it anyway.

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Response to dkf (Reply #35)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:14 AM

36. It's not sensitive or insensitive

Go ahead. It's just a word.

It's not a social structure, Slavery By Any Other Name, or The New Jim Crow. Go ahead.

If it will make your feelings less suppressed - take up the movement! Let that anger out!

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #36)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:27 AM

37. No. If others wish to buck the likes of our civil rights leaders that's their thing.

 

Maybe the younger generation is healthier anyway if they can move past this. The elders certainly can't.

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Response to dkf (Reply #37)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:58 AM

46. Right. Its those black, n-word using racist that are the problem here-nt

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Response to Anansi1171 (Reply #46)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:03 AM

47. That's messed up. What's wrong with you?

 

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Response to dkf (Reply #47)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:49 AM

72. I think if you go back

And read what you've written on this thread - you'll see the poster is pointing out something about passive aggressive people.


That poster is just pointing out the obvious sentiments of some folks at DU.

If it's not you - then don't be so offended. Don't take it personal.

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Response to dkf (Reply #37)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:17 AM

51. Seems you can't, either.

But I definitely encourage you to go up to the first Black person you see and say,
"S'up, my nigga?"

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #51)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:21 AM

55. +1

My point exactly.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #51)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 12:42 PM

96. me too...i just want to watch

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Response to dkf (Reply #35)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:45 AM

63. Is it honestly this hard . . .

My son is 20 and white and we live in the south. A few years ago, his black friend told him he could use the word "nigga" in their conversations. So, yes, the kids see this all a bit differently. But my son opted not to use it because he knows better and when he told me, I said, "You absolutely will not use that word."

I find no reason why my son and I being sensitive about the word while his friend throws it around is a reason for us to be ticked off.

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Response to kickitup (Reply #63)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:55 AM

75. +1, it's a term of endearment for THAT generation but not for all generations

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Response to dkf (Reply #35)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 12:41 PM

95. you don't HAVE to do anything

but your resentment about acting decent is duly noted.

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Response to dkf (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:49 AM

69. Why do you want to?

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Response to dkf (Reply #25)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 12:41 PM

94. sure...use it

but don't be surprised how someone responds. i know...it is a double standard

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Response to JI7 (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:41 AM

71. JI7, you're right.

B37 had the audacity to disdain Rachael's speaking skills, while I was noticing her numerous errors in grammar.lol

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Response to BellaKos (Reply #71)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 12:44 PM

97. she's a complete idiot, and apparently she doesn't know it

however, now she might have a clue, since she's being ridiculed

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:14 AM

50. Bookdeal juror?

Channeling through stations I stopped to hear Al Sharpton in the middle of a conversation about the juror who now has a book deal. Heard about that a few days ago. Apparently this has raised eyebrows since no one was supposed to know who the jurors were. Question is, how did someone with a book deal get to her so quickly if no one knew the identity of these women?
He went on to say that this book deal juror is married to a lawyer, who knows one (or both) of the defense attorneys.
According to Sharpton, an investigation is now in the process of being asked for regarding this juror and her possible connection to the defense, and the jury selection process for this case as a whole.
I didn't hear the beginning of this conversation, so I apologize if I got any of this wrong. The big picture, however, is that questions about this jury are not being raised.

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Response to kathysart_decoration (Reply #50)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:25 AM

57. Rev. Al said

there needs to be an investigation.

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Response to kathysart_decoration (Reply #50)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:19 AM

66. There's so many things wrong with this trial

That it wouldn't surprise me. Where I live, if you took one law class, or are close to a lawyer in any way, they'll dismiss you. Florida is such a strange state.

As for the OP, I agree, subtle racism. She doesn't even realize it. It really tool me aback when she said that she feels sorry for both Trayvcon and George. Unbelievable.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:24 AM

56. The worm is turning quickly...

Looking more and more like 1-2 jurors at the minimum had their minds made up before even being selected...

And just 24 hours ago GD was all about "How dare you insinuate the jurors were racist when the prosecutors didn't prove their case!!!"

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:33 AM

60. A former co-worker made a Giant Leap Forward

when he went from "niggers" to "those people". But maybe he just did that to offend me less.

That said, most of us probably don't choose our words carefully enoungh to stand the kind of scrutiny and analysis they get here.

My impression was that Juror B37 was in the self-defense camp from the start. She seemed to be forced to decide because of her prejuduces instead of in spite of them. Like a parent who is forced to spank a child "you made me be mean".

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:36 AM

61. "When they got into evidence, it was a lot more interesting than just testimony"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does she know that testimony is part of the evidence? Now, if she said I thought the scientific evidence was more interesting, fine. But she made it seem as though testimony wasn't interesting. That's troubling, especially since she seems to think only Zimmerman's testimony is important as she answered that the Vietnam medic (she calls him a doctor) was the best witness.....a testimony witness that offered little. Wow is all I can say.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:32 AM

67. The woman who was robbed helped form her opinion...

When gz took her a lock for her door and comforted her, she testified that she was rather grateful. The Jurer was sucked in, not realizing that when some people "help" it's their way of tryng to gain control, at least from my own life's experiences.....

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Response to fadedrose (Reply #67)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:54 AM

74. I think B37's HUSBAND helped form her opinion ...

... since he's also an attorney & reportedly knows O'Mara.

He probably coached his wife on how to get 'on' the jury and then helped the little Missus 'understand' Florida Law.
My bet is, as soon as the jury was seated, he contacted a book agent.

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Response to Myrina (Reply #74)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 10:22 AM

78. I was selected for jury duty as an alternate

many years ago. My son is a sgt. now, but he started as a custodian at the jail. When I told him about being selected, he asked me to describe the accused and I did..and he said to call the judge to recuse myself because he that morning had prepared this same accused for his appearance at jury selection at the courthouse.

There in PA, something like that could be grounds for a new trial. Being connected to the accused in any way is not permitted.....

She should have been rejected because of their acquaintanceship with O'Mara.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 10:05 AM

76. Let's see now...

 

Americans have every reason to have lost faith in:

1) Their churches, thanks to Westboro
2) Their government, thanks to Republicans
3) Their police, thanks to videocameras and the Internet
4) The courts, thanks to the activists on the SCROTUS
5) The jury system, thanks to B37
6) Their schools, thanks to fundamentalist infiltration of large school district boards, especially Texas
7) Their laws, thanks to the hunting license bestowed by SYG
8) The media, thanks to BreitbartRushFoxCoulterMoonieTimes

Is there anything left?

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Response to TheLion (Reply #76)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:05 PM

91. Baseball, thanks to Bud Selig

Sports journalism, thanks to ESPN

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 10:42 AM

79. Fla if you go beware

Maybe God is telling us to stay away from fla. The hurricanes will get stronger and take their toll in the future. Now you haves places like Sanford racist fla. Who would want to live in that God ugly place. Most of fla is ugly as hell and now I learn the people themselves are ugly as well.

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