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Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:51 PM

Breaking on M$NBComcast - everyone is heading back to the Courtroom

Don't know why - stand by folks

Could be as simple as another jury question - could be the verdict

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Reply Breaking on M$NBComcast - everyone is heading back to the Courtroom (Original post)
malaise Jul 2013 OP
CatWoman Jul 2013 #1
malaise Jul 2013 #11
BainsBane Jul 2013 #2
Nevernose Jul 2013 #3
dorkzilla Jul 2013 #6
femmocrat Jul 2013 #4
femmocrat Jul 2013 #9
pintobean Jul 2013 #5
Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #7
malaise Jul 2013 #8
Nevernose Jul 2013 #12
premium Jul 2013 #14
malaise Jul 2013 #15
CatWoman Jul 2013 #17
malaise Jul 2013 #34
Nevernose Jul 2013 #10
malaise Jul 2013 #18
Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #13
Hugabear Jul 2013 #22
Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #27
Hugabear Jul 2013 #37
Igel Jul 2013 #47
cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #50
Spazito Jul 2013 #16
femmocrat Jul 2013 #20
Spazito Jul 2013 #35
markiv Jul 2013 #41
CatWoman Jul 2013 #46
chelsea0011 Jul 2013 #43
LittleBlue Jul 2013 #19
HipChick Jul 2013 #21
LittleBlue Jul 2013 #24
dorkzilla Jul 2013 #29
HipChick Jul 2013 #33
dorkzilla Jul 2013 #42
femmocrat Jul 2013 #23
malaise Jul 2013 #25
avebury Jul 2013 #28
CatWoman Jul 2013 #30
LittleBlue Jul 2013 #32
Ilsa Jul 2013 #26
malaise Jul 2013 #31
Ilsa Jul 2013 #48
malaise Jul 2013 #49
pintobean Jul 2013 #36
itsrobert Jul 2013 #38
pintobean Jul 2013 #39
kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #45
stevenleser Jul 2013 #40
complain jane Jul 2013 #44
PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #51
bravenak Jul 2013 #52

Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:52 PM

1. thanks M

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:57 PM

11. Defendant there now - judge there too n/t

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:53 PM

2. the jury wants testimony read back

and lawyers need to fight about what exactly should be read. That's my guess. This is not a verdict.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:53 PM

3. Could be the jury going "home" for the evening

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:54 PM

6. That sounds the most likely...its nearly 6pm. n/t

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:53 PM

4. Seems way too early for a verdict.

Maybe it's a hung jury.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:57 PM

9. It's a question, acc. to MSNBC.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:54 PM

5. "Court will convene promptly for jurors' question."

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:55 PM

7. The horde of attorneys need to be there to argue about

whatever the jury is asking for - thats my guess...

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #7)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:56 PM

8. Don't see the defendant

so it's probably not the verdict

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Response to malaise (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:57 PM

12. He's there

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Response to malaise (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:58 PM

14. No, he's there. nt.

 

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Response to malaise (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:58 PM

15. He's there now

Judge too - lawyers gathered around the judge

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Response to malaise (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:58 PM

17. lol

how could you miss him?

that guys is getting fatter by the hour!!!

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #17)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:06 PM

34. He came in after I typed this



30 minute recess

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:57 PM

10. Please clarify manslaughter instructions

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:59 PM

18. Yep n/t

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:57 PM

13. Clarification on Manslaughter verbiage!!!!!

Sah-wheat!!!!!!

Sad that likely means they discounted Murder 2, but better than an automatic acquittal.

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #13)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:01 PM

22. They could find him guilty on both counts

Hopefully that's what's going to happen

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Response to Hugabear (Reply #22)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:03 PM

27. I didn't know that was possible.

Thanks.

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #27)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:07 PM

37. I assume it would be

I don't know why they wouldn't be able to, unless they've been told they can't.

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Response to Hugabear (Reply #37)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:57 PM

47. It's either or.

One's the lesser charge included in the other.

They're roughly equivalent. You can't get two murder convictions for one murder. One dead body, one death, one conviction for causing the death.

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Response to Hugabear (Reply #22)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 09:38 PM

50. The US Constitution disagrees

As well as all law, all legal procedure, and common sense

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:58 PM

16. The jury wants clarification on the instructions re manslaughter...

interesting.

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Response to Spazito (Reply #16)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:00 PM

20. Lisa Bloom said that could be good for the prosecution.

we'll see.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #20)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:06 PM

35. That's certainly my thought...

it could be a discussion with the jurors on the 2nd degree vs manslaughter or the jury is working their way down, have decided it isn't 2nd degree murder and are now on to looking at manslaughter.

I'm hoping it is the first, that the debate is whether it is 2nd degree or manslaughter.

The good thing is it seems to indicate that the defense case re self-defense was not sold to the jury as a slam-dunk in any way.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #20)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:11 PM

41. Lisa Bloom picked on little Arnold

 

she has no love for black people

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Response to markiv (Reply #41)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:38 PM

46. your posts get siller by the thread

if that's even possible.

what are you hoping to attain? Simplecon 10?

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #20)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:21 PM

43. She could be completely wrong. If one juror thinks murder against the rest who are for acquittal,

this could just be a request to show lone juror why she is wrong.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:00 PM

19. So looks like murder 2 is off

Is manslaughter all that's left?

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Response to LittleBlue (Reply #19)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:01 PM

21. He can still get 30yrs for manslaughter..

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Response to HipChick (Reply #21)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:02 PM

24. I know

with the gun charge

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Response to HipChick (Reply #21)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:04 PM

29. as long as this fucker doesn't walk

But he'll get off on parole in 10 and end up on Fox news.

Unless he gets with the general population in prison....

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Response to dorkzilla (Reply #29)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:05 PM

33. They still got Jeffrey Dalmer in jail..Zimmerfat doesn't look like he can do any heavy time

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Response to HipChick (Reply #33)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:21 PM

42. Exactly why he should be in the general population

Even if they don't Dahmer his fat ass, with the prison population being what it is, they'll make his life a living hell and he'll spend every moment in abject terror. Then he'll have a massive heart attack.

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Response to LittleBlue (Reply #19)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:01 PM

23. Guess so.....

Except for "not guilty". No aggravated assault or anything like that.

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Response to LittleBlue (Reply #19)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:02 PM

25. We don't know that

maybe they're trying to decide which one is more appropriate or if any of them is appropriate.
Still this doesn't look good for the defense - thankfully

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Response to LittleBlue (Reply #19)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:03 PM

28. On CNN they indicated that, if the Jury is moving methodically

through the instructions and are asking about manslaughter that they have also passed by self defense as well.

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Response to avebury (Reply #28)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:04 PM

30. CNN?

*groan*

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Response to avebury (Reply #28)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:04 PM

32. Interesting

Looks like a decent chance of him getting manslaughter. I think that's fair.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:02 PM

26. Maybe this is to differentiate between the two

Charges. Maybe Murder 2 is still on the table.

The longer they go on, I think it is more likely he'll be convicted.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #26)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:04 PM

31. He's going to prison I think

Good

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Response to malaise (Reply #31)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 08:35 PM

48. Hope so, or it means they want to be

certain the criteria is met vs acquitting him.

I'll freak out if they let him go. I don't live anywhere near him, but this "blow them away" attitude and claiming self defense has to stop. An acquittal will result in many more innocents dying, I fear.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #48)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 09:16 PM

49. I had a feeling last November that America would not allow Rmoney in their WH

and I think these jurors will let the facts guide them.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:07 PM

36. 30 minute recess

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:07 PM

38. What's the chances of a pardon from the republican governor?

He would be a hero to the right wing.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #38)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:09 PM

39. Zero

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #38)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:26 PM

45. Excellent, IMHO. FL is run by RW fascists.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:10 PM

40. Sorry, didn't see this thread when I posted my own.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:26 PM

44. does this mean they have a choice between voluntary or involuntary manslaughter?

or just "manslaughter"

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Response to complain jane (Reply #44)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 09:44 PM

51. You can see the entire instructions to the jury here...

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:00 PM

52. I can't take it my stomache hurts!!

The verdict is coming in. Jury not guilty. I'm dying.

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