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Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:56 PM

If Zimmerman is convicted, will conservative, gun wielding, white people riot?

I've seen the question and concern asked the other way around. So I am wondering, with all the concern that Zimmerman was just standing h is ground, will white people concerned that candy wielding hoodie wearing black kids run rampant in their neighborhood riot to show their anger at the injustice of profiling and killing an unarmed teenager.

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Reply If Zimmerman is convicted, will conservative, gun wielding, white people riot? (Original post)
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 OP
Robb Jul 2013 #1
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #5
onestepforward Jul 2013 #75
Rex Jul 2013 #2
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #8
Rex Jul 2013 #15
Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #20
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #24
Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #3
MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #6
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #13
Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #16
Zoeisright Jul 2013 #65
99Forever Jul 2013 #73
tularetom Jul 2013 #4
Ilsa Jul 2013 #49
tularetom Jul 2013 #58
uponit7771 Jul 2013 #81
Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #7
Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #10
Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #11
Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #18
Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #19
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #17
ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #22
bluedigger Jul 2013 #30
Igel Jul 2013 #44
Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #48
NoOneMan Jul 2013 #9
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #21
bushisanidiot Jul 2013 #12
riverwalker Jul 2013 #14
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #26
Ilsa Jul 2013 #50
Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #23
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #25
1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #54
Number23 Jul 2013 #55
1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #59
aristocles Jul 2013 #27
Skip Intro Jul 2013 #35
Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #62
NoGOPZone Jul 2013 #37
Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #46
JoePhilly Jul 2013 #76
bluedigger Jul 2013 #28
coldmountain Jul 2013 #29
gollygee Jul 2013 #31
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #32
Skip Intro Jul 2013 #33
upaloopa Jul 2013 #34
Township75 Jul 2013 #36
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #39
riverwalker Jul 2013 #38
Hoyt Jul 2013 #47
RZM Jul 2013 #61
premium Jul 2013 #72
NoGOPZone Jul 2013 #40
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #41
UserNSAv32 Jul 2013 #42
korak Jul 2013 #43
RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #45
Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #51
Ian David Jul 2013 #52
devilgrrl Jul 2013 #53
UTUSN Jul 2013 #56
Catherine Vincent Jul 2013 #57
RandiFan1290 Jul 2013 #60
lindysalsagal Jul 2013 #63
flash47 Jul 2013 #64
Zoeisright Jul 2013 #66
flvegan Jul 2013 #67
Ohio Joe Jul 2013 #68
Name removed Jul 2013 #70
Ohio Joe Jul 2013 #74
bemildred Jul 2013 #69
premium Jul 2013 #71
d_r Jul 2013 #77
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2013 #80
OmahaBlueDog Jul 2013 #78
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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:58 PM

1. The sign will be the cloud of Cheetos dust. Keep watching the skies.

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Response to Robb (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:01 PM

5. I will watch for it.

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Response to Robb (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:30 PM

75. LOL! n/t

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:58 PM

2. No, that is some racist trash being thrown around by RWing/Foxnews types.

They WANT there to be violence and more bloodshed.

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Response to Rex (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:03 PM

8. It is said th e other way everywhere.

But few entertain it the other way around.

I just think it is interesting to see that in print and ask why no one is saying that.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:06 PM

15. Oh I understand and was wondering if anyone would make a thread like this one.

nt.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:11 PM

20. I almost alerted on your post

 

but once I saw what you were aiming at, I understood and agreed wholeheartedly.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #20)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:14 PM

24. Just after I posted, I realized that might happen.

But, what the hell. Some questions have to be asked.

We will never get the right answers, without first asking the right questions.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:59 PM

3. No, because conservative, gun-wielding white people haven't been enslaved, or lynched...

...or fucking profiled and followed and HARASSED while going into a store, repeatedly for 150+ years.

The false-equivalency of race in this country is astounding!

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:02 PM

6. +1

 

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:05 PM

13. Not my exact point. I wanted to reverse the meme

that is used even in supposed less right wing information media sources.

Personally, I think they are afraid of riots because of basic racial bias and stereotypes.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #13)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:06 PM

16. Your point is irrelevant. Reality is.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:21 AM

65. BINGO!!!

God, what an incredibly racist and stupid OP.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:27 PM

73. Exactly.

The OP is a stinking pile of absurd racist nonsense.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:59 PM

4. The Million Beer Bellies March

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Response to tularetom (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:45 PM

49. LOL. You're in great form tonight!

I'm sitting here on the porch, reading DU, reading tularetom's posts, thinking, "fukin' A, man."

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #49)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:38 PM

58. It's a great night for porch sitting ain't it?

We sat out there, drank wine and watched the cows on the hillside across the creek.

Until it got dark and the skeeters chased us inside.

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Response to tularetom (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:20 PM

81. +1

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:02 PM

7. Some are already discussing it on Facebook.

 


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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:04 PM

10. Sounds like terrorism to me. I hope the red bars are removed...

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:05 PM

11. The names have been removed

 

to protect the stupid.

I have the original, though.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:08 PM

18. And before you ask

 

I did already click on the "report to Facebook" link.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #18)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:09 PM

19. Cool!

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:07 PM

17. That doesn't surprisre me. The guys posting naked form the mother's basement crowd...

is heavily armed and angry.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:12 PM

22. I am not very talented at race issues, but I believe the first post is anti-black satire. nt

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:26 PM

30. That has to be satire.

The KFC?

"burning our own homes and apartments and businesses to the ground in a show of solidarity"?

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:01 PM

44. Sarcasm?

The best you got is sarcasm?

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Response to Igel (Reply #44)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:43 PM

48. I'm not buying into the whole race riot thing

 

On either side.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:04 PM

9. You can't win them all

 

White males are the benefactors of this system, who know you can't win them all. Why would they riot? They aren't the oppressed who don't win any

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Response to NoOneMan (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:12 PM

21. The real question why is't anyone using that meme...

I see it repeated everywhere, and I think it is just deep racial bias. The number of concern trolls in the media that ask, "Will black riot" is ridiculous. To be fair, if they are concerned one way they should be fair and be concerned the other.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:05 PM

12. Those who would riot have been rioting since President Obama won his first election

They are called the republican tea party.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:06 PM

14. they will blame women

"that female judge and those 6 wimmin"
you can count on it.

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #14)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:20 PM

26. That does seem to be the default Republian whipping boy right now. n/t

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #26)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:47 PM

50. You mean "whipping girl". It's the 1st time GOPers are equal-opportunity. nt

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:14 PM

23. When was the last time "conservative, gun wielding, white people" rioted?

I'm drawing a blank here.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #23)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:19 PM

25. In general, they call out the national guard to do their murdering for them.

or they put on white robes and have a lynching.

In the 1892 Homestead, PA strike, the called out the state militia and hired Pinkerton detectives to do their rioting. (3 Pinkerton detectives and eleven union men and bystanders died.)

When you have power, you can hire people to do your rioting for you. It is only the powerless and downtrodden who are accused of rioting.

Conservative, gun wielding, white people call that standing up for their rights.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #25)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:15 PM

54. Thatís an important point Ö

When white folks riot Ö itís called a lynching, or social unrest, or ... anything but rioting.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #54)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:33 PM

55. "social unrest" My friend, you just won the Internet.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #55)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 09:37 AM

59. Or, and we can't forget this one ...

just really, really happy their sports team won the big game!

See in America, white white rip sh!t up and burn sh!t down for a good reason; whereas, with Black folks ... it's a response to heat, humidity and ... oh, yeah ... an unreasonable response to social pressure, frustration and disappointment.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #23)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:22 PM

27. In this country, i know some of the first times

 

The Boston Massacre, the Boston Tea Party.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #23)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:37 PM

35. Now don't ruin a perfectly good race baiting thread, Nye. n/t

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Response to Skip Intro (Reply #35)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:44 AM

62. Bingo.

Usually you'd have to go to some disgusting site like chimpout.org to see racist stereotyping in full force. Now? Just come to DU...

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #23)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:38 PM

37. Then you should read more American history

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Response to NoGOPZone (Reply #37)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:15 PM

46. DAMN. How could I have forgotten the 1943 Zoot Suit Riots?

My bad.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #23)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:35 PM

76. I'm going to say ... around 1850. nt

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:23 PM

28. I thought they had been pre-rioting since...1861?

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:23 PM

29. I bet there will be killings justified by Zimmerman conviction somehow

 

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:28 PM

31. They'll know they don't have an handy loophole if they want to shoot someone.

I think that would be a good thing.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #31)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:33 PM

32. This case doesn't make stand your ground go away.

But it will show that it is not a perfect defense for murder.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:36 PM

33. Will Hispanics riot?



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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:37 PM

34. they will threaten to but they're to pansy assed to follow through

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:38 PM

36. Why White people and not Mixed-Race people? Isn't that what Zimmerman is?

?

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Response to Township75 (Reply #36)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:46 PM

39. If Zimmerman is convicted, he won't riot. His supporters I've seen do not claim to be "mixed race."

In most places I've seen them, they tend to be closer to the lilies in the field than a mix of begonias.

Besides, most black people in America are descended from slaves so most of them are of mixed genetic ancestry because their owners considered their females as property.

In reality, race doesn't exist from a scientific point of view, we are humans. Race is a social construct.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:40 PM

38. they've already started

Zimmerman supporter protesting already
:large

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #38)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:34 PM

47. CAC is apt term for Zimmerman and that yahoo.

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #38)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:11 AM

61. That's a riot?

 

Looks more like two people standing around with signs.

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #38)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:23 PM

72. That's rioting?

 

A few people holding signs in protest is rioting?

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:51 PM

40. No, of course not

they may rebel, there may be an uprising, but never a RIOT.

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Response to NoGOPZone (Reply #40)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:54 PM

41. Very, very good. n/t

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:57 PM

42. No but expect to see another wanna be cop murder someone in cold blood so they can walk and be a

 

hero to those who worship guns and those who enjoy shooting minorities for sport.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:58 PM

43. Nah. They will do some of that in post nr 38....

 

But mostly they will brag on Free Republic about buying more ammo. lament the fall of the republic, and dream of SHTF and CWII.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:03 PM

45. My question is whether the media reports rioting equally between races

It would be interesting to see if there has been a discrepancy between the MSM's definition of 'rioting' when it involves various races.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:48 PM

51. as Ghandi once said, "Violence is the language of the unheard."

Those that own and control the state apparatus rarely feel the need to riot. In spite of claims of victimization they know that they are the ones holding the reins of power and that the state apparatus and the police are there for them. No matter what they may claim - that is how it works and they know it and have always known it.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 08:02 PM

52. They pretty much already do, just not in large groups. n/t

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:05 PM

56. They will be ANNOYING ad finitum. Like we're not used to it. n/t

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:55 PM

57. ...

Will there be cameras at colleges in Florida? (like they did during the OJ acquittal).

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 09:41 AM

60. You never know!

Here you will see a bunch of crazy white people rioting after their team lost a hockey game.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:49 AM

63. I believe it's called The Tea Party

and it's sponsored by multi-national corporations who want to garner huge profits in america while breaking all economic, labor, and ecological laws.

Their first rally is already planned: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/12/tea-party-republicans-flocking-to-appear-monday-at-white-nationalist-connected-march/

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:50 AM

64. I have different plans

 

Since I am a gun wielding boy living in Central Florida I just plan to load up my standard capacity magazines when Zimmerman is acquitted. That is the only need I think I will have to protect my family.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:22 AM

66. You mean like after Katrina

pictures of African-Americans were captioned as "looters" and pictures of white people were captioned as "finders"???

What a fucking racist OP.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:25 AM

67. Either way, somehow it will get blamed on Obama. n/t

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:28 AM

68. Gun nuts don't riot...

They go on murderous rampages and kill as many innocent people as they can.

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Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:27 PM

74. Another law abiding gun nut...

They are always that way... Until they are not.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:30 AM

69. We tend more in the direction of vigilantes, lynchings and burnings. nt

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:18 PM

71. NO.

 

That is all.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:54 PM

77. It does reflect a deep cultural bias

that people speculate that black folks would riot and that white folks would be law abiding citizens. The difference, I think, is power. We don't think of white folks "rioting" because they have the power. But there sure has been examples of mob mentality - from lynchings to now.








Like the Little Rock 9






U of AL desegregation




Ole miss riots a generation ago and not that long ago








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Response to d_r (Reply #77)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 04:27 PM

80. Great, great post

thanks.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:55 PM

78. No, but "open carry" rallies will be on the horizon

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