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Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:00 PM

 

African American journalist: "Where's the outrage about black-on-black crime?"

Crystal Wright
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 11 July 2013 09.50 EDT
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"As the George Zimmerman murder trial heads towards its conclusion this week, race has taken center stage. Since last year when Zimmerman allegedly killed Trayvon Martin in self-defense, the mainstream media joined by so called black activists injected a racially charged narrative into the case. You know "racist" white man profiles and kills black kid.

Sadly, this trial wouldn't be receiving wall-to-wall national media coverage if Zimmerman was black. That's what we should be talking about.

Startling statistics reveal that between 1980-2008, African-Americans were six times more likely than whites to be victims of gun violence and seven times more likely to kill with guns than whites, according to the Justice Department. African-Americans represent a mere 13% of the US population yet more than 50% of federal prisoners are black. You can claim racial bias in the judicial system, but that doesn't explain all of it.

Why aren't so-called black leaders outraged and marching over the recent shooting rampage in Chicago. During the 4 July holiday weekend, including the Wednesday leading up to it, 62 people were wounded by gun violence in Chicago and 12 others killed. The holiday shooting spree raised Chicago's homicide tally to 200 for the year. Last year about 500 people were killed, and most of those killing and being killed in Chicago are black. According to the Chicago Tribune, "blacks make up about 33% of the city's population, they accounted for nearly 78% of the homicide victims through the first six months of 2012"."




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Reply African American journalist: "Where's the outrage about black-on-black crime?" (Original post)
Blue Bike Jul 2013 OP
JI7 Jul 2013 #1
Blue Bike Jul 2013 #4
JI7 Jul 2013 #7
Number23 Jul 2013 #43
JI7 Jul 2013 #44
JI7 Jul 2013 #2
pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #9
MrScorpio Jul 2013 #3
Hugabear Jul 2013 #14
MrScorpio Jul 2013 #15
cali Jul 2013 #45
MrScorpio Jul 2013 #46
hrmjustin Jul 2013 #16
MrScorpio Jul 2013 #17
hrmjustin Jul 2013 #20
JI7 Jul 2013 #18
Hugabear Jul 2013 #21
MrScorpio Jul 2013 #24
pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #34
MrScorpio Jul 2013 #35
pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #36
MrScorpio Jul 2013 #38
hrmjustin Jul 2013 #41
hrmjustin Jul 2013 #39
Scuba Jul 2013 #5
msongs Jul 2013 #6
1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #8
JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #11
orpupilofnature57 Jul 2013 #10
Deuce Jul 2013 #12
orpupilofnature57 Jul 2013 #48
hrmjustin Jul 2013 #13
gollygee Jul 2013 #19
Just Saying Jul 2013 #37
devilgrrl Jul 2013 #22
sufrommich Jul 2013 #23
Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #25
hrmjustin Jul 2013 #28
RandiFan1290 Jul 2013 #47
Ilsa Jul 2013 #50
hrmjustin Jul 2013 #53
hrmjustin Jul 2013 #26
sufrommich Jul 2013 #29
hrmjustin Jul 2013 #30
MrScorpio Jul 2013 #27
quinnox Jul 2013 #31
Behind the Aegis Jul 2013 #32
Just Saying Jul 2013 #33
Quixote1818 Jul 2013 #40
madrchsod Jul 2013 #42
KG Jul 2013 #49
bunnies Jul 2013 #51
JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #52

Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:05 PM

1. Obama is accused of talking down to his own people when he brings it up

this is the BS im hearing from right wing assholes everywhere including many whod on't consider themselves to be right wingers.

why do people act like there isn't outrage over it. it's the same with the N word. how people bring up some rappers who use it as a way to defend some racist who uses it.

there IS outrage over black on black crime. people ARE trying to do something about it.

do people not have a right to be upset about other things ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:13 PM

4. Is the media outraged?

 

Remember, the journalist said, "Sadly, this trial wouldn't be receiving wall-to-wall national media coverage if Zimmerman was black. That's what we should be talking about. "

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Response to Blue Bike (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:18 PM

7. it wouldn't not have recieved coverage if Zimmerman was charged from the beginning

the reason it got coverage was because the fucking racist cops did nothing about this. that's why there was media attention.

if zimmerman was black and especially if Trayvon was white, the shooter would have been charged and probably already convicted .

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 11:06 PM

43. Remember the screams when he DARED to say that if he'd had a son

it would look like Trayvon? SHOCKINGLY, even some here had a problem with it.

Michelle Obama went to the funeral of a gorgeous young black girl that was killed in Chicago just a few weeks after the inauguration. The right screamed that she wouldn't have done it had the girl been white.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #43)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 01:31 AM

44. things like this expose people's bigotry more

than if they do things like use the N word .

there are people who will never use the N word, they will condemn Paula Deen (and she deserves it). they don't think they are racist, but they will say something like "both sides should have acted different" concerning the zimmerman case. would they say the same if all the facts were the same but trayvon was white ?

the people bringing up Chicago right now aren't just the teabagger birther types. on DU i have seen many posts about riots if Zimmerman is acquitted.


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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:07 PM

2. "african american journalist"

is that supposed to be the "some of my best friends are black" defense in posting that ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:20 PM

9. I think you nailed it. nt

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:11 PM

3. Well, she's also a Republican voting, Black-Conservative type

So, it's quite reasonable to assume that she's writing this as merely a way to condemn the mostly Democratic-voting Civil Rights movement.

It's not like we CAN'T see what she's up to.


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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:47 PM

14. In other words, kinda like Alan West

Wonder if the OP knows this is a right wing source, or if the OP even cares

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Response to Hugabear (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:48 PM

15. Well, obviously the OP doesn't care

Otherwise it wouldn't have been posted.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #15)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 03:28 AM

45. I think you're wrong. The OP cares

freepers post about black on black crime constantly.

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Response to cali (Reply #45)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 03:39 AM

46. That is so true...

Perhaps it's their way of informing us about their own obsessions.

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Response to Hugabear (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:50 PM

16. The Op knows. The OP seems to be having some fun at this.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #16)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:51 PM

17. I wonder what the OP has to say about this in their own defense

This looks like something to be concerned about here.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:53 PM

20. The Op will not likely care. I think someone is trying to get to 100 posts.

Mirt should be alerted.

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Response to Hugabear (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:52 PM

18. "if the OP knows this is a right wing "

pretty sure the OP is one of them

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Response to JI7 (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:54 PM

21. +1

Methinks you're right. Let's see how long this one lasts.

If there's one thing I've noticed, right wing trolls on DU can't help themselves, eventually their racism shows though

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Response to JI7 (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:57 PM

24. Well, to be fair, at the time of posting, that info may not have been known to the OP

But any reading of the replies in their own thread should be sufficient enough to correct that oversight

Any further continuance by the OP after notification can quite reasonably be regarded as problematic.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #24)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:14 PM

34. And to be fair--to us-...-

The same poster also put up this gem...

My prediction of the Zimmerman verdict: Not guilty of anything
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023227887



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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #34)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:16 PM

35. That most certainly indicates a pattern of problematic behavior

I believe that there conditions in DU's TOS that addresses something like this.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #35)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:18 PM

36. A pattern of intentional disruption gets MIRT's attention

It's only a matter of time...

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #36)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:20 PM

38. As it should be nt

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #36)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:21 PM

41. I alerted a Mirt Member and it will be discussed.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #35)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:20 PM

39. I alerted a Mirt Member and it will be discussed.

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:15 PM

5. How many major media outlets are owned by minorities (not counting Saudi sheiks)?

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:16 PM

6. so, where is the outrage for blacks and whites, latinos and asians being slaughtered by gun owners?

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:19 PM

8. There is plenty of out-rage ...

about Black on Black crime/violence ... in the Black community.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:39 PM

11. +1

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:28 PM

10. MSM..Misanthropic Sycophant Monsters, don't see the drama necessary .

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:40 PM

12. Perhaps, if this journalist spent less time doing research to support republican talking points,

she would see the outrage.

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Response to Deuce (Reply #12)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:33 AM

48. Just part of MSM exodus to the Darkside,,,

Since Shrub and the 24hr a day commercials for WMD'S, and the fear distribution that duped us in to bailing out Villians, so they could carry on with their imprisonment of the country program, all in the name of the ultimate goal profit, which is the only thing protected by the Constitution these days .

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:41 PM

13. Why are you posting something from a right winger on this site?

I believe that is against the rules of the site you agreed to.

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:52 PM

19. It sounds like, "Why are you bothered by George Zimmerman killing Trayvon Martin

when black people are so much worse than George Zimmerman."

I hope I'm misunderstanding that.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:20 PM

37. Nope.

You understand it fine.

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:56 PM

23. Link to a conservative hit piece and then run. There's a

and for posters who do this.

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:59 PM

25. DU infested with Zimmerman republicans

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:05 PM

28. MIRT will be busy!

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #28)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:27 AM

47. MIRT knows this one well

They have been deleting him for weeks. He just makes a new email address and returns to make more zippy threads.

ETA: Here are a few on the screen names they've used in the past couple of days

friendlyFRIEND
Hooray for Pepe
Ron Quixote
Richard Patrick

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Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #47)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:15 AM

50. I had wondered why he wasn't gone yet.

Thanks, I'll ignore him until he slips up.

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Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #47)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 12:02 PM

53. Thanks! His MO seemed familiar.

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:03 PM

26. I just sent an alert on this and It came back that there was a jury already that kept it

3-3. I clicked the TOS button.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #26)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:05 PM

29. I sent an alert too and haven't heard anything back. I cant

believe it passed a jury. Sad.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #29)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:07 PM

30. The hosts are discussing it. Will take time.

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:05 PM

27. Wow, this thread lost a rec

Other than the OP's own, I wonder if it'll lose the other three.

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:07 PM

31. so, some black uncle tom type uses this tragedy as an opportunity to bash

 

the black community. Big surprise. I'm sure Clarence Thomas would heartily approve.

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:13 PM

32. Umm...read just about any AA magazine, listen to a number of AA speakers...

...and you will hear PLENTY of outrage about black-on-black crime. In cities with large AA populations, you will even see discussions in MSM. While living in New Orleans, there were plenty of stories about black-on-black crimes and ways to prevent it. I don't understand what point this author is trying to make.

ETA: Ooops...didn't know this was a "conservative" author, so I am guessing I know what the point is.

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:14 PM

33. True colors showing

This is the same argument gun nuts use. You know, like that we don't really care about little kids getting their heads blown off because Sandy Hook gets coverage while kids killed in Chicago don't.

Two problems with this theory.

1. I have an endless amount of compassion. I can care both about Travon's murder AND black on black crime just like I can want gun legislation to keep guns from criminals and the insane to protect kids in CT AND Chicago.

2. The people that post this crap couldn't care less about either group.

Enjoy your stay.

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:20 PM

40. Well, when you are healed down by slavery for 200 years then let free into a society


that is prejudice of you then you get a huge proportion of blacks in poverty. The vicious cycle sets in and it ain't easy to break. It may take another 100 years or more for blacks to be truly equal to whites on a financial level. When that occurs you won't have any more black on black crime than white on white crime. Get it?

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:40 PM

42. this article is bullshit

anyone who follows what is happening in chicago knows crystal does`t know what the fuck she is talking about.

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:37 AM

49. been wanting to use this for awhile.



been almost a year since I had a post hidden. sorry I been slackin'

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Response to KG (Reply #49)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:21 AM

51. For my first post of the day, allow me to:

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Response to Blue Bike (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:30 AM

52. 6 recs

As of 7:28 AM for a guy/gal with 65 posts since joining on July 8th and all are pretty much paid posts by the Georgie defense team.


I'll take my licks for posting the first sentence - but advanced search is DU's friend.


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