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Fri Jul 5, 2013, 08:41 PM

Zimmerman Trial: Defense asks for dismissal, Prosecution knocks their socks off

You can watch both sides give their argument
(jury is not in the room) for and against dismissal.

Mark O'Mara for the Defense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jJrrMQ9sHwY

John Guy for the Prosecution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZH_li7vuk7o

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Reply Zimmerman Trial: Defense asks for dismissal, Prosecution knocks their socks off (Original post)
Voice for Peace Jul 2013 OP
NoGOPZone Jul 2013 #1
Just Saying Jul 2013 #3
LineLineLineReply .
NoGOPZone Jul 2013 #5
Just Saying Jul 2013 #6
Gothmog Jul 2013 #13
Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #8
zbdent Jul 2013 #12
Gman Jul 2013 #2
malaise Jul 2013 #4
arely staircase Jul 2013 #7
malaise Jul 2013 #11
egduj Jul 2013 #9
Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #10
Gothmog Jul 2013 #14
Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #17
riverwalker Jul 2013 #15
pacalo Jul 2013 #16
JI7 Jul 2013 #18
Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #21
alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #19
coeur_de_lion Jul 2013 #20
Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #22

Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 08:53 PM

1. But did they really?

If I'm to believe what's been posted here tonight, the motion was denied for political reasons, as we all know which side the judge has to fear.

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Response to NoGOPZone (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:11 PM

3. I think the prosecution put up a good case against Zimmerman.

It's a minority here that either think they didn't or believe he shouldn't have been charged at all.

Yeah, I don't know "which side the judge has to fear. ". Enlighten me.

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Response to NoGOPZone (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:16 PM

6. I must be tired as I missed your sarcasm there.

Carry on.

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Response to Just Saying (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 10:06 PM

13. I agree with you

I also believe that the prosecution did a good job of establishing a case. Again, the only testimony here is from a liar who has made up three or four different stories. The lies he told on Sean Hannity will really hurt him. The jury is free to ignore or not believe Zimmerman's story.

I would not put Zimmerman on the stand given the number of lies that the prosecution has already demonstrated. These same lies are more than sufficient for the jury to reach a conclusion about Zimmerman's story.

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Response to NoGOPZone (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:21 PM

8. never believe what's posted here...

any of it.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:34 PM

12. including that ...

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 08:53 PM

2. That's standard in many criminal trials

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:14 PM

4. Guy was excellent

Rec

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Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:19 PM

7. he is good

two people saw this happen. one is dead and the other is a liar - my favorite line.

I think guy is going to put zimmy away with his closing argument. we got a taste of it today.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:30 PM

11. I used it in a thread

Great line

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:22 PM

9. I take it you're new to this whole trial thing...

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Response to egduj (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:23 PM

10. because...?

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 10:13 PM

14. Thanks for posting

I listen to both arguments and I am convinced that the judge made the right ruling. O'Mara is playing a little fast and loose with the facts that he cited and the facts that he claims that the evidence proves. The burden at this stage is fairly high and the jury does not have to believe Zimmerman's story given the number of times this story has changed.

We saw a preview of the closing argument and O'Mara really has no good answers to these claims other than to argue that you have to believe Zimmerman's story

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #14)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:16 AM

17. but there is overwhelming evidence!!

he's got booboos on his head!!!


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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 10:16 PM

15. Trayvon is right handed

there were no bruises or blood on his right hand. I had to punch an abusive guy in the nose once, made him bleed. (I am 5'2 woman was 100 lbs at the time) My hand was sore from one punch. Trayvon maybe could have given Zimmerman one punch, but there is NO WAY he could have done the pummeling, numerous punches, head banging, and smothering, and not have any DNA, blood, or marks, bruises or cuts on his right hand.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 12:36 AM

16. You weren't exaggerating about the prosecution.

I'm relieved, knowing now that the prosecution's thrust will be for the jury to apply common sense to everything presented, including, thankfully, pointing out GZ's lies, contradictions. The prosecution has been surprisingly vague thus far & now we've been given a good preview of what's to come. John Guy should handle the prosecution's summation. I like his demeanor & his mind.

During his rebuttal, O'Mara brought up the "I wouldn't have done anything differently" quote from a Fixed News appearance (around 38:30, same video). O'Mara told the judge "it didn't mean 'I don't care'; it meant that he didn't do anything wrong & wouldn't change a thing". What about not getting out of the car, Zimbo?

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:19 AM

18. that isn't john guy , at least not the first one speaking

he is the one i caught a few moments of and he was very good.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #18)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:43 PM

21. the second video is John Guy

for the prosecution. He also did the opening statement.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:19 AM

19. before this thread is through, we'll hear some Grade A "premium" Bullshit

Summary: The prosecution is doing a terrible job.

Storms that are Green will agree: the prosecution shit the bed today, and this witness was terrible. Wait. Which witness? Whichever, yo. They're all terrible.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:38 PM

20. I like one of the comments on the second video

It's called neighborhood watch, not neighborhood HUNT.

Zimmerman hunted him down, picked a fight and killed him for fighting back.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 08:36 PM

22. Thats not John Guy, its Richard Mantei. nt

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