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Robb

(39,665 posts)
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 01:44 PM Feb 2012

How Target Figured Out A Teen Girl Was Pregnant Before Her Father Did

FORBES -- Every time you go shopping, you share intimate details about your consumption patterns with retailers. And many of those retailers are studying those details to figure out what you like, what you need, and which coupons are most likely to make you happy. Target, for example, has figured out how to data-mine its way into your womb, to figure out whether you have a baby on the way long before you need to start buying diapers.

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Pole ran test after test, analyzing the data, and before long some useful patterns emerged. Lotions, for example. Lots of people buy lotion, but one of Pole’s colleagues noticed that women on the baby registry were buying larger quantities of unscented lotion around the beginning of their second trimester. Another analyst noted that sometime in the first 20 weeks, pregnant women loaded up on supplements like calcium, magnesium and zinc. Many shoppers purchase soap and cotton balls, but when someone suddenly starts buying lots of scent-free soap and extra-big bags of cotton balls, in addition to hand sanitizers and washcloths, it signals they could be getting close to their delivery date.

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So Target started sending coupons for baby items to customers according to their pregnancy scores. Duhigg shares an anecdote — so good that it sounds made up — that conveys how eerily accurate the targeting is. An angry man went into a Target outside of Minneapolis, demanding to talk to a manager:

“My daughter got this in the mail!” he said. “She’s still in high school, and you’re sending her coupons for baby clothes and cribs? Are you trying to encourage her to get pregnant?”.....

Read More: http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/
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How Target Figured Out A Teen Girl Was Pregnant Before Her Father Did (Original Post) Robb Feb 2012 OP
Fascinating. So, even pregnancy can be MineralMan Feb 2012 #1
Perhaps we should start cross-buying. Zalatix Feb 2012 #2
I'm in! Iggo Feb 2012 #16
I like it! Initech Feb 2012 #20
This is outright frightening... Earth_First Feb 2012 #3
It's no scarier than 'Moneyball' RZM Feb 2012 #10
That is creepy. I knew that some stores did this when PA Democrat Feb 2012 #4
Use cash izquierdista Feb 2012 #5
In your case, actual identity is probably irrelevant. Robb Feb 2012 #6
wow. creepy Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #7
yes it is AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #14
it's even a little creepy when I buy groceries and cat coupons are printed with my receipt. Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #18
I pay by cash almost exclusively nowdays Ratty Feb 2012 #8
Cash is king. JVS Feb 2012 #9
Here's the NYT Magazine piece that is the basis for this story: Chiyo-chichi Feb 2012 #11
that was super interesting! renate Feb 2012 #19
The data miners have a fit about my house LibertyLover Feb 2012 #12
My 15 yo daughter got an AARP solicitation itsrobert Feb 2012 #17
creepy...not just what they're doing, but their response to the article magical thyme Feb 2012 #13
Rec'd because I hate stores tracking individual's purchases. I am Ima Shopper at many places uppityperson Feb 2012 #15

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
1. Fascinating. So, even pregnancy can be
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:04 PM
Feb 2012

detected by shopping trends. Poor dad, though. Helluva way to find out his kid has been fooling around and got pregnant.

Data mining is getting more and more sophisticated. A little scary, too.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
2. Perhaps we should start cross-buying.
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:06 PM
Feb 2012

You buy my food at Target, I buy your pregnancy supplies or whatnot.

Completely friggin' confuse the system.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
3. This is outright frightening...
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:08 PM
Feb 2012

Between this and the information that folks are willing to send across the globe via social networking outlets, it's getting a little scary.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
10. It's no scarier than 'Moneyball'
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:38 PM
Feb 2012

It's essentially the same thing. Crunching the numbers every which way in order to discover patterns.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
4. That is creepy. I knew that some stores did this when
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:08 PM
Feb 2012

you used their store discount card (a local grocery chain requires that you enroll in their program to get their "sale" prices), but Target is doing this to customers buying online or using a debit/ credit card.

What is troubling is how this information could be used if shared with insurance companies, potential employers, etc. Think about it. They could track your purchases of fatty foods, alcohol, cigarettes, over the counter and prescription drugs.

 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
5. Use cash
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:16 PM
Feb 2012

And those store discount cards usually have an alternate way to identify yourself (like your telephone number). One of these days, Kroger is going to be very disappointed to find out that all those friends and relatives of mine, not only are they NOT shopping at my local Kroger's, they haven't been here in years.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
6. In your case, actual identity is probably irrelevant.
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:22 PM
Feb 2012

It's just some buyer they can keep track of with a number, and target with whatever they can -- even if it's a coupon printed on the back of a receipt.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
18. it's even a little creepy when I buy groceries and cat coupons are printed with my receipt.
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 04:17 PM
Feb 2012

I haven't bought cat food THAT day but using my Ralphs discount card allows them to know I have bought cat food in the past. what a database they must have.

Ratty

(2,100 posts)
8. I pay by cash almost exclusively nowdays
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:25 PM
Feb 2012

I get it from the ATM at the beginning and middle of each month. It's *primarily* to help me keep track of my spending (and it works, BTW), but I don't want some nameless entity keeping track of what I buy, selling it to my insurance company, tying it into my web browsing habits - plus a whole host of misuses we know nothing about. I have one of those Safeway cards too because the savings are too much to ignore, but even that's tied to a fake name.

Chiyo-chichi

(3,574 posts)
11. Here's the NYT Magazine piece that is the basis for this story:
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:40 PM
Feb 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/shopping-habits.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp

It's long, but a good read.

"The reason Target can snoop on our shopping habits is that, over the past two decades, the science of habit formation has become a major field of research in neurology and psychology departments at hundreds of major medical centers and universities, as well as inside extremely well financed corporate labs. “It’s like an arms race to hire statisticians nowadays,” said Andreas Weigend, the former chief scientist at Amazon.com. “Mathematicians are suddenly sexy.” As the ability to analyze data has grown more and more fine-grained, the push to understand how daily habits influence our decisions has become one of the most exciting topics in clinical research, even though most of us are hardly aware those patterns exist. One study from Duke University estimated that habits, rather than conscious decision-making, shape 45 percent of the choices we make every day, and recent discoveries have begun to change everything from the way we think about dieting to how doctors conceive treatments for anxiety, depression and addictions."

"This research is also transforming our understanding of how habits function across organizations and societies. A football coach named Tony Dungy propelled one of the worst teams in the N.F.L. to the Super Bowl by focusing on how his players habitually reacted to on-field cues. Before he became Treasury secretary, Paul O’Neill overhauled a stumbling conglomerate, Alcoa, and turned it into a top performer in the Dow Jones by relentlessly attacking one habit — a specific approach to worker safety — which in turn caused a companywide transformation. The Obama campaign has hired a habit specialist as its “chief scientist” to figure out how to trigger new voting patterns among different constituencies. "

renate

(13,776 posts)
19. that was super interesting!
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 04:55 PM
Feb 2012

True, it's a long read, but a good one, as you said. Not only is the data mining stuff fascinating, the article has some useful information about how to change habits. Thank you!

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
12. The data miners have a fit about my house
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:58 PM
Feb 2012

My husband and I are in our late 50s, so we get lots of stuff from AARP and retirement communities and financial planning for retirement, heck even stuff on funeral preparations. But --- we also have a 9 year old daughter, so we also get lots of stuff from American Girl and ToysRUs. It's an amusing mix sometimes.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
13. creepy...not just what they're doing, but their response to the article
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 03:44 PM
Feb 2012

I have never even set foot into a Target and now I never will.

Thank goodness Hannafords has not got this data mining thing mastered. I've shopped there for years. The coupons that occasionally print with my receipts are rarely for anything I've ever heard of, ever buy, often for stuff the local store doesn't even carry Same with the weekly fliers .

On the other hand, their overall local campaign -- to offer as much locally grown produce as possible -- works well with me and I suspect others in this area. Phew!

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
15. Rec'd because I hate stores tracking individual's purchases. I am Ima Shopper at many places
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 03:54 PM
Feb 2012

phone number (local area code) 555-1212. It gets me low prices at gas pumps also since a lot of people use the same number. The number is for information.

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