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Cal33

(7,018 posts)
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 09:07 AM Feb 2012

The so-called present-day "Republican Party" is breaking apart. The old-timer true

Republicans have long since been gone, and the four remaining groups of Corporatists,
Neocons, Libertarians and Teabaggers are fighting among themselves.

The Corporatists have the wealth, and the Neocons have the numbers. It looks like
they will unite and eventually kick out the Libertarians and the Teabaggers.

In any case, the GOP is already weakened, and will be still more so in the future. It
would be nice if after the November elections, it will be the beginning of the end
for this malodorous group who call themselves Republicans, but never were. They
kicked out the old-timer Republicans, but continued to use their name, so as to
continue getting the votes of the many old-timers who aren't even aware of the coup.



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Cal33

(7,018 posts)
2. I don't think the Teabaggers are really welcome by anyone. Their gutter-type rowdyness,
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 09:18 AM
Feb 2012

poor behavior and lack of common-sense will cause their partnership with anyone to be a
short one. No one can stand them for long.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
3. They don't show up
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 09:33 AM
Feb 2012

Their problem is that they don't show up in any unified sense. The don't organize, they don't contribute, and they don't vote in any organized or predictable pattern. Basically they're just "independents" that actually make noise. The independents always are a fickle bunch and they drift around between the parties, when they vote at all. There's a real "grass is greener" tendency to them at times. Then, at other times, they're the heavily "stay the course" bunch.

Really, without Fox News, no one would really know who these folks were. They were mostly astroturf from the beginning and their only real "organization" was a few dominant TV personalities on Fox News that no longer find them useful.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
5. Very true. I remember during the 2008 elections, many of them were wearing side-arms
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 09:56 AM
Feb 2012

to political rallies! Normal people just don't do things like that. These are not
normal people. They are the rowdy street-mob type of people who are too stupid to be capable of organizing themselves into an adequately functioning group.

Yes, the Teabaggers most likely will prove to be a disturbance of a temporary nature,
and might never have been looked upon as a "movement" of any kind, had Fox News
not first begun to call them such. And what Fox News says isn't worth listening to.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
6. Even as a short hand
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 10:26 AM
Feb 2012

Ignoring for a moment the astroturf nature. Even as a sort of political "shorthand" for a voting behavior of a certain portion of the electorate (African-Americans, Gen-X'ers, Southern voters, etc.) that we know isn't over all consistent or "lock step", it just doesn't work. There is no real discerable voting pattern there, much less a money pattern. Heck, someone in Florida claiming to be a Bagger made the comment about Romney that he showed up with the attitude that he didn't need the Tea Party, and he was right.

That's pretty much the end of any "movement" politically.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
4. Teabaggers don't understand that those patriotic non profits
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 09:35 AM
Feb 2012

stuffing their email box are actually front groups for corporations like Koch Industries. These corporations use their non profit front groups to funnel propaganda with a patriotic fear filled wrapper to the trusting, faithful. and naive.

It's a sad thing.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
7. Not in PA. The bastards have a stranglehold on state government (House, senate, governor),
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 10:31 AM
Feb 2012

and control most of the state except for Philadelphia and Allegheny County (Pittsburgh area).

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
8. That is most unfortunate. I am reminded of Romney as governor of MA. And MA
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 10:58 AM
Feb 2012

is known to be a Democratic state. How was that possible? Outside of some cities,
there are many rural areas that are Republican. I don't think Romney could ever
be governor of MA again, though. Once was enough.

Then I think of WI. The chances of Walker being recalled are fairly good. He
did his best to dictate to the people of Wisconsin, and it is backfiring. I hope this
catches fire and will spread. Something similar might happen in Ohio, but Kasich
is cagey, he is more careful now.

I sure hope more people will wake up in PA.

unblock

(51,974 posts)
9. overstating it much?
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 11:01 AM
Feb 2012

the party that's "breaking apart" is on track to pickup some seats in the senate, and might even pick up some seats in the house.

they'll certainly keep control of the house, and could easily capture the senate, even with an obama re-election.

it's great to see the notorious republican unity showing cracks and strains, but i fear you're rather overstating your case.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
13. Maybe I am being partially carried away by the disgust I have for the criminal and greedy
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 11:32 AM
Feb 2012

actions of the Corporatists, NeoCons, Teabaggers....the whole lot of them. And they've
been at it for so long!

But I'll say this, if elections are really fair and square in November, the Democrats will win
the presidency and both houses. If elections had been honest, Bush, Jr. would never have
been president in the first place.

But yes. There are many places in the nation where massive vote-fraud will take place --
as usual. And Democrats could lose.

But more and more people are becoming wise to the Pubs, especially since their non-stop
filibustering and opposition to every Democratic and Obama-made proposal, regardless of the
consequences to the nation. These are the crazy and reckless congress people in power,
who are doing themselves and their own party in.

I personally know of two Republicans who have quit their party. These are the decent people
who do have the interest of their country at heart. They are appalled at what their party is
doing to the nation. I'm certain the same thing is happening all over the country.

This evil cannot go on forever. I think time is on our side.

unblock

(51,974 posts)
14. i know quite a few republicans also who say their party has gone off the deep end.
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 11:59 AM
Feb 2012

so they're now independent, but of course they still feel that THEIR congresscritter is a decent guy, not like those "other" republican congresscritters....

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
15. Yes, there are many people like that, too. But, on the whole, Repubs. are losing members,
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 03:46 PM
Feb 2012

and Dems. are gaining. And there are 8 more months to go. Time is on our side.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
17. We heard "The GOP is Dead" after the 2008 election
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 08:14 PM
Feb 2012

Like a bad case of herpes, they keep coming back.

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