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Felony charges were dropped on Thursday against a 20-year-old University of Virginia student who says she panicked when undercover agents from the state's Alcohol Beverage Control division mistook her water purchase for beer.
According to Charlottesville (Va.) Daily Progress, the student, Elizabeth Daly, was walking to her car on April 11 at approximately 10:15 p.m. with a box of sparkling water, cookie dough and ice cream she had just bought from a local supermarket when the agentssix men and one woman, all in plainclothesapproached suspecting the box, a blue carton of LaCroix sparkling water, to be a 12-pack of beer. One jumped on the hood of her SUV; another pulled out a gun, Daly said, as her roommates seated inside looked on in horror.
"They were showing unidentifiable badges after they approached us, but we became frightened, as they were not in anything close to a uniform," Daly wrote in an account submitted to the court. "I couldn't put my windows down unless I started my car, and when I started my car they began yelling to not move the car, not to start the car. They began trying to break the windows. My roommates and I were ... terrified."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/uva-girl-water-beer-jail-181104442.html
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Yeah, but we're not becoming a fascist police state or anything...
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)forced to perform a sex act on an officer ...like the cops do in Lakeland Florida.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-cops-caught-sex-scandal-article-1.1383107
Oh ...you thought I was kidding ...dintcha
xocet
(3,870 posts)She should be glad that she only received jail time.
9:25 AM, Oct 2, 2012
CHULA VISTA, CA (CBS) - There is rising anger in southern California over a border patrol agent who shot and killed a mother of five on Friday. Officials say the agent was trying to save his own life. Police isn Chula Vista, California are still investigating. Local residents say there was no reason for the shooting.
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To authorities it's inconclusive. The Border Patrol says the plain-clothes agent was in the neighborhood serving a warrant, when Alvarado ran him down, the agent feared for his life. Deputy Chief Rodney Scott with U.S. Border Patrol says, "He was hit with the vehicle and got lodged on the windshield where you saw the impact and was carried several hundred yards before he discharged his weapon through the windshield of the vehicle."
Witnesses tell conflicting stories. Ashley Guilebeau says, "From my apartment I could see a car stop in the middle of the street and a guy coming and walking in front of the car and shooting about 12 times."
Hector Salazar says, "The guy was riding on the hood. And then when he was riding on the hood, actually the car stopped in the middle of the road, and I heard the guy yelling 'stop.'"
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http://www.thv11.com/news/article/229185/288/Anger-rising-in-deadly-Calif-border-patrol-shooting
Woman shot while attempting to flee in car; officers past disciplinary problems raised
By Greg Moran
12:01 a.m. May 22, 2013
Updated 8:27 p.m. May 21, 2013
SAN DIEGO The family of a woman who was shot to death by a U.S. Border Patrol agent in Chula Vista last year has filed a lawsuit contending the killing was unjustified and the agent should never have been hired because of his previous record of misconduct as a sheriffs deputy.
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The suit says that Tackett jumped on the cars hood to prevent Alvarado from leaving, and then the agent got off when she stopped the car after backing up. She then put the car in reverse, trying to get away, when Tackett fired, walking forward as he fired his weapon.
Eugene Iredale, the familys attorney, said at a news conference Tuesday that witnesses in the neighborhood said Tackett fired at a retreating woman who represented no danger or threat of any kind.
Agents had gone to the apartment on Sept. 28 to arrest a man on a warrant for violating immigration laws.
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http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/May/22/tp-border-patrol-sued-by-family-over-killing-by/
Dash87
(3,220 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Her ilk are killing America and the government is here to protect us.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)think
(11,641 posts)and one officer pulls a gun?!
This is serving and protecting? No this is exactly the kind of shit that happens when law enforcement has gone too far!
niyad
(112,064 posts)sadly, listening to the excuses of the abtf just makes me ill--"perfectly justified conduct on their part". yeah, and that is why it took EIGHTY DAYS to drop the charges against. her.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Turbineguy
(37,127 posts)Those of us who are not professional criminals do not interact well with the police. It's our ignorance that gets us in trouble. Perhaps in addition to driving classes, high schools could add a class in how to be properly arrested. We need to learn how not to panic when our rights are violated. We need to learn to stop being repulsed by the idea of laying down on a dirty street spread-eagled with hands above the head. And we need to be properly dressed for that.
Stuff like that.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)be proud. everyone i know knows I have been arrested and if they ask to see the pic... my wife made a scrapbook page out of it.
sP
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)to the next applicant.
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)never caused me any problems.
sP
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)They're our employees enforcing our laws we passed for ourselves. We have previously instructed them to presume innocence and act with a courteous and professional demeanor. They are not entitled to their jobs, they serve at our pleasure. If they neglect these points we will dismiss them the same as we instituted them.
siligut
(12,272 posts)"You don't know all the facts until you complete the investigation," he said.
So, basically he followed through to save face.
niyad
(112,064 posts)just keep on with their insane behaviour.
siligut
(12,272 posts)This way, they are showing they are the ones in power.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)They might as well just arrest everyone and let the courts decide later who is actually guilty of a crime.
Innocent until proven guilty indeed.
lpbk2713
(42,674 posts)... one makes a really stupid blunder and the rest all follow in agreement bcause they are "authority figures" .
Dumb phucks. It must really hurt to be that stupid. Must have
been on their way home from a local GOP committee meeting.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Animals with badges, sack them all if they have no real crime to police.
Agony
(2,605 posts)We really do need national citizens commission on police conduct, abuse of power, training and generally unprofessional thuggish behavior.
These woman will likely not feel safe for a long time, if ever. This is terrorism... Jumping on the hood and pulling a gun! Give me a fucking break...
freshwest
(53,661 posts)They need to lay some people off and be sure to fire their GOPig governor. whose real title is His Excellency and their GOPig legislature, too.
Wondering if VA's leaders have forgotten they are part of the Union after reading the details below, since the office of governor existed before the USA began:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_VA
niyad
(112,064 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Either something really significant is missing from this story, yahoo, isnt it?, or there should be some major suing and firing going on for a waste taxpayer money. I have no problem with them checking things out at the store.
Did the clerk or cashier call in and say they'd sold liquor or beer to a minor? Did a citizen call in? Are they hanging out and watching folks just for this? Did they have a tip there was something worse going on?
I know that there is funny business that goes about these big cartons. In a rural area I lived in the favorite beer box of that size was one with a silver coating.
I found out about this when I inquired of neigbhors about the many middle of the night stops down the highway in a area where there was nothing to go to, literally, in the night by my place. Then speeding away after the stop. The boxes would disappear.
The idea was they looked like litter. But they were waiting for pickup. There were drugs in the boxes. It was about the time helicopters were hovering over the area in the middle of the night. I talked with the constable and he explained they were trying to catch them. Eventually they got
'em or the drug folks picked another road.
So, sure they may have thought there was something else in the box.
But no ID? Guns drawn?
Pullleese.
Sue them until they can't walk straight!
niyad
(112,064 posts)to a bit in one, the abtf agents were "conducting a sting". you are correct, there is a lot of information missing from the story. but, what is included, and confirmed by the police dept--shows that these agents should all be out of jobs, and whatever jobs they do manage to acquire should never allow them contact with living beings of any species.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)7 officers for a sting on underage drinking?
Obviously they've got nothing else to do....time to cut the budget.
Gman
(24,780 posts)"An investigation by the VA ABC revealed that the officers involved acted properly."
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)"you can't fix stupid" problem?
There are serial killers out there, and these cops are arresting a poor woman for buying water. This department needs a little oversight.
disidoro01
(302 posts)There are checks and balances, departmental protocols and the pesky constitution. This never happened and even if it did, if she didn't have anything to hide she wouldn't have panicked.
RILib
(862 posts)Several years ago, I was checking out at Safeway with a 12 pack of Diet Coke (silver nondescript packaging) and the checker starts blathering away about no alcohol sales between midnight and 4 am (or some such time interval.) And I'm like what? And she points to the Coke.
I don't even know what packs of beer look like.
If a bunch of people, mostly men, started jumping on my car at 10 o'clock at night, I'd run right over them to get away.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Cronus Protagonist
(15,574 posts)I bet they didn't and that's why they're alive today to tell about it.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)What the fuck is wrong with our culture? Seriously? What the fuck?
raptor_rider
(1,014 posts)You're fucked!! Welcome to social government!!!
raptor_rider
(1,014 posts)In your hand, since you're a woman. Killed!! Just like a woman in Syria!!
Initech
(99,881 posts)Seven cops for a single very minor infraction? Just what the fuck is going on here??
Logical
(22,457 posts)penultimate
(1,110 posts)I find cases like this interesting though, because it's just so unambiguously wrong. So I like to search the internet for people who defend such actions. I haven't found anyone defending the cops yet.
Logical
(22,457 posts)npk
(3,660 posts)Did I miss that part.
siligut
(12,272 posts)Trying to catch the supermarket selling alcohol to minors, I guess. So they probably stopped anyone who looked young.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)How odd that seven bad apples out of all the wonderful good cops would coincidentally be working together on the same evening!
CrispyQ
(36,112 posts)As soon as he left the checkout stand, an undercover cop flashed his badge & asked to see his ID. There was just one cop, he had appropriate ID & he didn't pull a gun or anything dramatic. He did give me a knowing look however, & let me tell you, I was sweating it, hoping the guy was at least 18. He was & after that I carded everyone who didn't look at least 40.
The incident in the OP should have ended that night, with a profuse apology to the girl & her friends. This is nothing but a group of authoritarians gone amok, unwilling to admit they made a mistake.