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Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:10 PM

Girl buys water, spends night in jail



Dylan Stableford, Yahoo! News 3 hours ago
The Sideshow Society


Felony charges were dropped on Thursday against a 20-year-old University of Virginia student who says she panicked when undercover agents from the state's Alcohol Beverage Control division mistook her water purchase for beer.

According to Charlottesville (Va.) Daily Progress, the student, Elizabeth Daly, was walking to her car on April 11 at approximately 10:15 p.m. with a box of sparkling water, cookie dough and ice cream she had just bought from a local supermarket when the agents—six men and one woman, all in plainclothes—approached suspecting the box, a blue carton of LaCroix sparkling water, to be a 12-pack of beer. One jumped on the hood of her SUV; another pulled out a gun, Daly said, as her roommates seated inside looked on in horror.

"They were showing unidentifiable badges after they approached us, but we became frightened, as they were not in anything close to a uniform," Daly wrote in an account submitted to the court. "I couldn't put my windows down unless I started my car, and when I started my car they began yelling to not move the car, not to start the car. They began trying to break the windows. My roommates and I were ... terrified."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/uva-girl-water-beer-jail-181104442.html

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Reply Girl buys water, spends night in jail (Original post)
MrScorpio Jun 2013 OP
Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #1
L0oniX Jun 2013 #4
xocet Jun 2013 #31
Dash87 Jun 2013 #41
Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #15
Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #16
L0oniX Jun 2013 #2
think Jun 2013 #3
niyad Jun 2013 #19
Downwinder Jun 2013 #5
Turbineguy Jun 2013 #6
L0oniX Jun 2013 #7
ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #21
L0oniX Jun 2013 #22
ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #29
Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #17
siligut Jun 2013 #8
niyad Jun 2013 #20
siligut Jun 2013 #28
RedCappedBandit Jun 2013 #42
lpbk2713 Jun 2013 #9
freshwest Jun 2013 #10
LittleBlue Jun 2013 #11
Agony Jun 2013 #12
freshwest Jun 2013 #25
niyad Jun 2013 #34
freshwest Jun 2013 #37
niyad Jun 2013 #39
davidn3600 Jun 2013 #13
Gman Jun 2013 #14
NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #18
disidoro01 Jun 2013 #23
RILib Jun 2013 #24
DeSwiss Jun 2013 #26
Cronus Protagonist Jun 2013 #27
Matariki Jun 2013 #30
raptor_rider Jun 2013 #32
raptor_rider Jun 2013 #33
Initech Jun 2013 #35
Logical Jun 2013 #36
penultimate Jun 2013 #40
Logical Jun 2013 #44
npk Jun 2013 #38
siligut Jun 2013 #45
RedCappedBandit Jun 2013 #43
CrispyQ Jul 2013 #46

Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:18 PM

1. Seven cops for a single potential beer sales violation?

Yeah, but we're not becoming a fascist police state or anything...

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:24 PM

4. She should be happy she didn't get pepper sprayed and a knee in the back or

forced to perform a sex act on an officer ...like the cops do in Lakeland Florida.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-cops-caught-sex-scandal-article-1.1383107

Oh ...you thought I was kidding ...dintcha

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 09:06 PM

31. If on the hood, the manual apparently says to fire through the windshield and kill the driver...

She should be glad that she only received jail time.

Anger rising in Valeria Alvarado shooting death by border patrol agent
9:25 AM, Oct 2, 2012

CHULA VISTA, CA (CBS) - There is rising anger in southern California over a border patrol agent who shot and killed a mother of five on Friday. Officials say the agent was trying to save his own life. Police isn Chula Vista, California are still investigating. Local residents say there was no reason for the shooting.

...

To authorities it's inconclusive. The Border Patrol says the plain-clothes agent was in the neighborhood serving a warrant, when Alvarado ran him down, the agent feared for his life. Deputy Chief Rodney Scott with U.S. Border Patrol says, "He was hit with the vehicle and got lodged on the windshield where you saw the impact and was carried several hundred yards before he discharged his weapon through the windshield of the vehicle."

Witnesses tell conflicting stories. Ashley Guilebeau says, "From my apartment I could see a car stop in the middle of the street and a guy coming and walking in front of the car and shooting about 12 times."

Hector Salazar says, "The guy was riding on the hood. And then when he was riding on the hood, actually the car stopped in the middle of the road, and I heard the guy yelling 'stop.'"

...

http://www.thv11.com/news/article/229185/288/Anger-rising-in-deadly-Calif-border-patrol-shooting


BORDER PATROL SUED BY FAMILY OVER KILLING BY AGENT
Woman shot while attempting to flee in car; officer’s past disciplinary problems raised
By Greg Moran
12:01 a.m. May 22, 2013
Updated 8:27 p.m. May 21, 2013

SAN DIEGO — The family of a woman who was shot to death by a U.S. Border Patrol agent in Chula Vista last year has filed a lawsuit contending the killing was unjustified and the agent should never have been hired because of his previous record of misconduct as a sheriff’s deputy.

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The suit says that Tackett jumped on the car’s hood to prevent Alvarado from leaving, and then the agent got off when she stopped the car after backing up. She then put the car in reverse, trying to get away, when Tackett fired, walking forward as he fired his weapon.

Eugene Iredale, the family’s attorney, said at a news conference Tuesday that witnesses in the neighborhood said Tackett fired “at a retreating woman who represented no danger or threat of any kind.”

Agents had gone to the apartment on Sept. 28 to arrest a man on a warrant for violating immigration laws.

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http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/May/22/tp-border-patrol-sued-by-family-over-killing-by/

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:18 PM

41. Or shot 50 times each and drugs planted on the scene.

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:54 PM

15. If you have nothing to hide citizen... nt

 

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:56 PM

16. If it'd been ahigh fructose corn syrup beverage they should have tased her!

Her ilk are killing America and the government is here to protect us.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:20 PM

2. This is an perfect example of why we need the NSA.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:22 PM

3. 7 plainsclothes officers approach a young woman for possible under age beer purchase

and one officer pulls a gun?!

This is serving and protecting? No this is exactly the kind of shit that happens when law enforcement has gone too far!

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Response to think (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:06 PM

19. in a not-so- well-lit parking lot--and don't forget the one who jumped on the hood of her car.

sadly, listening to the excuses of the abtf just makes me ill--"perfectly justified conduct on their part". yeah, and that is why it took EIGHTY DAYS to drop the charges against. her.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:28 PM

5. File suit to at least replace the ice cream that probably melted.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:33 PM

6. This is a problem.

Those of us who are not professional criminals do not interact well with the police. It's our ignorance that gets us in trouble. Perhaps in addition to driving classes, high schools could add a class in how to be properly arrested. We need to learn how not to panic when our rights are violated. We need to learn to stop being repulsed by the idea of laying down on a dirty street spread-eagled with hands above the head. And we need to be properly dressed for that.

Stuff like that.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:36 PM

7. ...and now she has a mugshot online ..until she pays $399 to get rid of it.

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:08 PM

21. eh... tell everyone about your mugshot... show it around

be proud. everyone i know knows I have been arrested and if they ask to see the pic... my wife made a scrapbook page out of it.

sP

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Response to ProdigalJunkMail (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:13 PM

22. Easy for a potential employer to Google your name. Most won't bother to ask about it and go on...

to the next applicant.

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #22)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:50 PM

29. well, i guess...

never caused me any problems.

sP

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:00 PM

17. The police need to remember their place.

They're our employees enforcing our laws we passed for ourselves. We have previously instructed them to presume innocence and act with a courteous and professional demeanor. They are not entitled to their jobs, they serve at our pleasure. If they neglect these points we will dismiss them the same as we instituted them.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:40 PM

8. "It wouldn't be the right thing to do to prosecute this," he said.

Nonetheless, Chapman "stood by the agents' decision to file charges, citing faith in a process that yielded an appropriate resolution."

"You don't know all the facts until you complete the investigation," he said.


So, basically he followed through to save face.

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Response to siligut (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:07 PM

20. they were probably hoping that waiting all this time would allow people to forget and they could

just keep on with their insane behaviour.

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Response to niyad (Reply #20)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:37 PM

28. Right, apologizing and letting her go would be admitting to an error

This way, they are showing they are the ones in power.

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Response to siligut (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:33 PM

42. What horribly twisted logic

They might as well just arrest everyone and let the courts decide later who is actually guilty of a crime.

Innocent until proven guilty indeed.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:51 PM

9. "Institutuonal Stupid"





... one makes a really stupid blunder and the rest all follow in agreement bcause they are "authority figures" .



Dumb phucks. It must really hurt to be that stupid. Must have
been on their way home from a local GOP committee meeting.


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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:53 PM

10. They all need to be fired now. And to be sued, singly and severally. This is bullshit.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:55 PM

11. All should be fired

Animals with badges, sack them all if they have no real crime to police.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:01 PM

12. unprofessional goon squad charges citizen with 3 felonies... and its all A-OK with the DA!

We really do need national citizens commission on police conduct, abuse of power, training and generally unprofessional thuggish behavior.

These woman will likely not feel safe for a long time, if ever. This is terrorism... Jumping on the hood and pulling a gun! Give me a fucking break...

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Response to Agony (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:30 PM

25. Don't forget. No uniforms or identifiable badges. And all this drama over underaged drinking?

And it requires 6 idiots to stop this heinous crime? So there's no raping, murdering, robbing and assaulting going on in VA? Well, that's good.

They need to lay some people off and be sure to fire their GOPig governor. whose real title is His Excellency and their GOPig legislature, too.

Wondering if VA's leaders have forgotten they are part of the Union after reading the details below, since the office of governor existed before the USA began:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_VA



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Response to freshwest (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:11 PM

34. seven, not six, agents--six men and one woman.

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Response to niyad (Reply #34)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:27 PM

37. Okay, seven. And the vehicles they used undercover. And the gas. And the wages.

Either something really significant is missing from this story, yahoo, isnt it?, or there should be some major suing and firing going on for a waste taxpayer money. I have no problem with them checking things out at the store.

Did the clerk or cashier call in and say they'd sold liquor or beer to a minor? Did a citizen call in? Are they hanging out and watching folks just for this? Did they have a tip there was something worse going on?

I know that there is funny business that goes about these big cartons. In a rural area I lived in the favorite beer box of that size was one with a silver coating.

I found out about this when I inquired of neigbhors about the many middle of the night stops down the highway in a area where there was nothing to go to, literally, in the night by my place. Then speeding away after the stop. The boxes would disappear.

The idea was they looked like litter. But they were waiting for pickup. There were drugs in the boxes. It was about the time helicopters were hovering over the area in the middle of the night. I talked with the constable and he explained they were trying to catch them. Eventually they got
'em or the drug folks picked another road.

So, sure they may have thought there was something else in the box.

But no ID? Guns drawn?

Pullleese.

Sue them until they can't walk straight!

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Response to freshwest (Reply #37)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:33 PM

39. there are many stories about this incident, including wapo and other news sources. according

to a bit in one, the abtf agents were "conducting a sting". you are correct, there is a lot of information missing from the story. but, what is included, and confirmed by the police dept--shows that these agents should all be out of jobs, and whatever jobs they do manage to acquire should never allow them contact with living beings of any species.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:04 PM

13. I think it's time to cut that department's budget

7 officers for a sting on underage drinking?

Obviously they've got nothing else to do....time to cut the budget.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:12 PM

14. Story to follow:

"An investigation by the VA ABC revealed that the officers involved acted properly."

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:01 PM

18. Doesn't this fall into the...

"you can't fix stupid" problem?

There are serial killers out there, and these cops are arresting a poor woman for buying water. This department needs a little oversight.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:13 PM

23. This didn't happen

There are checks and balances, departmental protocols and the pesky constitution. This never happened and even if it did, if she didn't have anything to hide she wouldn't have panicked.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:18 PM

24. not exactly been there. but

 

Several years ago, I was checking out at Safeway with a 12 pack of Diet Coke (silver nondescript packaging) and the checker starts blathering away about no alcohol sales between midnight and 4 am (or some such time interval.) And I'm like what? And she points to the Coke.

I don't even know what packs of beer look like.

If a bunch of people, mostly men, started jumping on my car at 10 o'clock at night, I'd run right over them to get away.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:31 PM

26. K&R

- We have all these fucking cops because they're the ones who are afraid. Of us.....

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:33 PM

27. Well, did they have any Skittles?

I bet they didn't and that's why they're alive today to tell about it.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 09:05 PM

30. Pulling a gun for underage beer purchases???!!!???

What the fuck is wrong with our culture? Seriously? What the fuck?

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 09:11 PM

32. Being a civilian,

You're fucked!! Welcome to social government!!!

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 09:13 PM

33. Next, having a beer

In your hand, since you're a woman. Killed!! Just like a woman in Syria!!

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:13 PM

35. Is it a police state now????

Seven cops for a single very minor infraction? Just what the fuck is going on here??

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:25 PM

36. Wow, is there any way to defend this shit? Over beer? These idiots need to lose their job. n-t

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Response to Logical (Reply #36)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:13 PM

40. I don't see how there is any possible way to defend the cop's actions here.

I find cases like this interesting though, because it's just so unambiguously wrong. So I like to search the internet for people who defend such actions. I haven't found anyone defending the cops yet.

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Response to penultimate (Reply #40)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:42 PM

44. Usually someone does! But this s horrible. Over beer! n-t

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 10:29 PM

38. How did the police know she was underage?

Did I miss that part.

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Response to npk (Reply #38)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:55 PM

45. They were conducting a sting?

Trying to catch the supermarket selling alcohol to minors, I guess. So they probably stopped anyone who looked young.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 11:35 PM

43. Seven, and not one stops to think they might be acting wrongly.

How odd that seven bad apples out of all the wonderful good cops would coincidentally be working together on the same evening!

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:52 AM

46. When I was a grocery checker, I sold beer to a young man one day without checking his ID.

As soon as he left the checkout stand, an undercover cop flashed his badge & asked to see his ID. There was just one cop, he had appropriate ID & he didn't pull a gun or anything dramatic. He did give me a knowing look however, & let me tell you, I was sweating it, hoping the guy was at least 18. He was & after that I carded everyone who didn't look at least 40.

The incident in the OP should have ended that night, with a profuse apology to the girl & her friends. This is nothing but a group of authoritarians gone amok, unwilling to admit they made a mistake.

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