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Sat Jun 29, 2013, 06:32 PM

Esquire article on Zimmerman trial

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/trayvon-martin-trial-quote-police-interview

Focus is on the interrogation of Zimmerman 3 days after the
shooting. The person interviewing him will likely be prime
witnesses for the prosecution.

Some very good comments after the article as well.

Something I didn't realize is that there was no blood spatter
on Zimmerman. How can this be, if he was underneath him?

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Reply Esquire article on Zimmerman trial (Original post)
Voice for Peace Jun 2013 OP
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mzmolly Jul 2013 #15
FarPoint Jun 2013 #2
Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #3
FarPoint Jun 2013 #6
Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #8
alsame Jun 2013 #4
Duer 157099 Jun 2013 #5
targetpractice Jun 2013 #7
Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #9
targetpractice Jun 2013 #10
Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #11
GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #12
justiceischeap Jun 2013 #14
Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #13

Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 06:35 PM

1. The Quote That Should End the Trayvon Trial

George Zimmerman is going to be found guilty. All the evidence you need — all the evidence the cops needed — is right there in the interrogation they did with him three days after the shooting. The only thing more shocking than what Zimmerman says in the clip, which was released on the internet one year ago, is how little it has impressed the bloviating jerks who dominate the coverage of this trial.

Why did he follow Martin, a police officer asks.
“These assholes, they always get away,” Zimmerman answers.
The officer asks, “What’s behind that?”
“These people who victimize the neighborhood,” Zimmerman answers.

In Zimmerman’s angry mind, without trial or jury, even after he killed him and learned he was a 17-year-old who was legitimately staying in the complex, Martin was an asshole victimizing the neighborhood.


Read more: The Quote that May End the Trayvon Trial - Esquire
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/trayvon-martin-trial-quote-police-interview

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 9, 2013, 03:05 AM

15. .

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 06:41 PM

2. The Prosecution could benefit

from a forensic expert like Dr. Lee or Dr. Michael Baden.

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 06:43 PM

3. I don't know who they are.. are they real people?

hard to know these days where characters come from.
I shall consult the almighty google.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 06:51 PM

6. Yes...they are real...essentially the forefathers of forensic medicine.

Dr Henry Lee was a forensic witness in the OJ trial ...Dr. Baden may have been too.

Dr. Cyril Wecht is also a forefather of forensics. I know of him as being the coroner of Allegheny County Pa. in Pittsburgh.

Links:

http://www.cyrilwecht.com/about.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Baden

http://www.drhenrylee.com/

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 07:15 PM

8. aha.. thanks

I thought they might have been characters from a CSI series..

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 06:44 PM

4. The audio of the entire interview is

at the bottom.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 06:49 PM

5. Some good points in that article. Others, I'm not sure about

For example:
A few moments later, he asks Zimmerman why he kept following Martin even after the police dispatcher told him not to. Zimmerman’s answer is staggering.

“I wanted to give them an address.”

An address? This may be the moment that will convict him. It means that even he suspected that Martin was a legitimate visitor to the complex, staying in an apartment and legally on the property, Zimmerman continued to pursue him.


I thought this answer meant to give an address of where GZ/TM were so the police could find them when they arrived. I never thought it meant he wanted to see which house TM was going to.

Also, this one:
The next moment reveals another aspect of Zimmerman’s state of mind, complete paranoia. The officer plays the tape of him with the police dispatcher, when he refuses to give his address to the dispatcher “out loud” — the embattled neighborhood watch volunteer so afraid of the fking punks in his neighborhood that he’s afraid of giving the police his address, despite the complete lack of evidence that any of those punks had ever attacked him before. Like these fearsome criminals are tapping the public airwaves and listening to cell phone conversations just to get him.


I doubt GZ was thinking someone was tapping the airwaves. However, he *may* have believed TM was close enough to overhear his conversation and then when this "fucking punk" got away, he'd come back to GZ house and get him.

I think GZ is toast, no matter this week's testimony. Everyone keeps thinking the defense is getting stronger, but I think it is weak and going to get very much weaker in the coming days when these quotes come into play, and when the ME evidence is discussed.

I am not at all worried that GZ will walk. He will get his just desserts.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 07:14 PM

7. The person interviewing sounds like he's coaching him.

Is it normal for the police to play back a 911 tape to someone who shot an innocent kid so that they can get their story straight?

Also, I'm flummoxed by the fact that Zimmerman took his wife to the beach the weekend after killing Trayvon.

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Response to targetpractice (Reply #7)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 07:18 PM

9. I thought the questioning was very good, the officers sounded pretty sharp

and extremely dubious of Zimmerman's story, too
many pieces not adding up. They were giving him a
chance to clarify his answers but he could not do it
to their satisfaction, in my opinion. Maybe they
will be up next week, as witnesses for the prosecution.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #9)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 07:25 PM

10. Will this recording be evidence?

Contrast this interview with the crime-scene walk-thru, and Zimmerman's lies leap out.

I was especially amused when the interviewing cop asked if Trayvon could see is gun or was it concealed. "Tooootally concealed" replied Zimmerman. Yeah, right.

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Response to targetpractice (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 07:28 PM

11. I'm only guessing and hoping. It seems pretty damning to me,

and I'd imagine the officers would be witnesses
for the prosecution.

Just the way that he corrected Zimmerman:
softly, and with feeling -- said a lot to me
"he's not a fucking punk"

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 07:38 PM

12. Excellent article. Lack of blood splatter can be explained.

The article gives a lot of food for thought and confirms Z's mindset.

I hope it is introduced as evidence.

Lack of blood. If TM was on top, then his clothes would be hanging down from him by a few inches and would catch the blood backsplatter. When the heart is destroyed all bleeding is from gravity flow as there is no pumping. Notice that TM didn't bleed very much, even when he lay face down.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 08:45 PM

14. And puncture wounds don't bleed as much outwardly

Basically, a bullet hole is a puncture wound. Most of the external bleeding from being shot is if there's an exit wound.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 08:14 PM

13. kick

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